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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/04 12:07:02
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"https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+20+Series+Family&chipset=RTX+2080+Ti"
Finally updated the specs
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/16 14:40:32
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EVGA and NVIDIA need to address the price as turning ray tracing will not take off till till a certain saturation of market occurs and with price there at now it many drag like SLI did simply as game makers make games for the mid market not the top end
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/16 23:24:06
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magnusfl
EVGA and NVIDIA need to address the price as turning ray tracing will not take off till till a certain saturation of market occurs and with price there at now it many drag like SLI did simply as game makers make games for the mid market not the top end
Well, they need to start somewhere, but can't go lower before 7nm. 1080Ti is only had by under 2% of Steam users....
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/17 00:21:14
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EVGA and NVIDIA need to address the price as turning ray tracing will not take off till till a certain saturation of market occurs and with price there at now it many drag like SLI did simply as game makers make games for the mid market not the top end
Evga can’t do a thing, they are aib. It is nvidia who dictates the price and seeing the availability of rtx Ti cards I dont think they have any reason to lower the price.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/17 09:41:38
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NVIDIA has the best capability to lower prices however EVGA also the capability to lower prices a little bit as well both are keeping prices high to recover R&D costs fast. However turning and ray tracing is the future however it saturation that determines when the future happens. one thing that will help is the new 500 dollar 2070
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/17 22:04:08
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EVGA can't do anything to the prices unless they like losing money. Margins on GPU's aren't very big. Nvidia completely controls pricing based on how much they charge third parties like EVGA for the GPU's, and also likely by pricing agreements like the ones forcing third parties to list at least some cards at certain price points on the low end. As an example, let's use a $1200 reference board 2080ti like the one in the XC. EVGA probably pays $900-1000 for the PCB with the GPU, memory, and everything else. Then they need to design and fabricate their custom cooler to put on it, BIOS, packaging, testing, and all the rest. Then they still need to make a little profit, possibly as little as $50-100 on a card like that. They might make slightly more profit on the higher end factory overclocked cards since they charge more with similar parts costs, but it's still not very much. TLDR - If you're looking for someone to blame for the ridiculous prices, blame Nvidia. It's 100% their doing and they're the only ones who can change it.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/18 00:09:13
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EVGA can't do anything to the prices unless they like losing money. Margins on GPU's aren't very big. Nvidia completely controls pricing based on how much they charge third parties like EVGA for the GPU's, and also likely by pricing agreements like the ones forcing third parties to list at least some cards at certain price points on the low end.
As an example, let's use a $1200 reference board 2080ti like the one in the XC. EVGA probably pays $900-1000 for the PCB with the GPU, memory, and everything else. Then they need to design and fabricate their custom cooler to put on it, BIOS, packaging, testing, and all the rest. Then they still need to make a little profit, possibly as little as $50-100 on a card like that. They might make slightly more profit on the higher end factory overclocked cards since they charge more with similar parts costs, but it's still not very much.
TLDR - If you're looking for someone to blame for the ridiculous prices, blame Nvidia. It's 100% their doing and they're the only ones who can change it.
Yes Nvidia is the main culprit but so can the AIB partners. IIRC, a xx80 series would cost around $300 for the chip itself from Nvidia or for the completed product. I can't remember which series that was said upon but that was when the GPUs were around $600-$800 range. If I had to guess I would think the margins have increased for everyone across the board. Many other components were doing the same for years.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/21 23:30:26
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Are there any reviews of the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA out yet?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/22 20:02:02
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I have a question around the heatsink on the XC Ultra and FTW3 Ultra. Is the taller heatsink an attempt to provide even better air cooling or was it actually necessary to handle thermals of the 2080Ti?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/22 20:20:06
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I have a question around the heatsink on the XC Ultra and FTW3 Ultra. Is the taller heatsink an attempt to provide even better air cooling or was it actually necessary to handle thermals of the 2080Ti?
More heat surface + air flow = better cooling
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/23 03:59:51
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Graphite8five
I have a question around the heatsink on the XC Ultra and FTW3 Ultra. Is the taller heatsink an attempt to provide even better air cooling or was it actually necessary to handle thermals of the 2080Ti?
More heat surface + air flow = better cooling
Ok yes. Do the tensor and Ray Tracing cores create extra heat when they're in use? Just wondering if that's a possible reason for beefier cooling?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/23 14:51:08
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Ok yes. Do the tensor and Ray Tracing cores create extra heat when they're in use? Just wondering if that's a possible reason for beefier cooling?
I would assume so. Those are still cores at the end of the day. Not sure if they're equivalent to Cuda Cores when it comes to power and thermals.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/23 15:01:07
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more Watts consumed = more BTU produced
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/24 12:51:23
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And she's in... Sweetness! EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra. 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/24 12:53:53
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And she's in...
Sweetness!
EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/26 02:56:16
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I afraid if AMD beat very old GTX1080Ti and he is little slower than GTX1080 he need only little more power to be equal with RTX2080Ti. Actually new generation made to beat GTX1080Ti should beat and RTX2080Ti, because they are not too far.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/28 02:11:51
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These discussions when new cards come out are too funny. It's the same 'ole comments and complaints every time, haha! You could go back 10 years and just change the title and you have the same thread. I get a kick out of them. Patience is a virtue.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/28 13:23:49
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What is the difference between the XC and the XC2 2080s? I saw this go up on the website recently. Are the differences in cooling performance?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/28 13:57:30
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What is the difference between the XC and the XC2 2080s? I saw this go up on the website recently. Are the differences in cooling performance?
Thicker heatsink and temps sensors throughout the board (XC2).
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/10/31 05:20:20
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That GPU looks sexy! I'm a dying hard consumer of EVGA. I don't want to miss this one!
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/11/04 05:51:29
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Th Precison x1 is totally crazy, even the last beta! the led color change ability just disapeared after boot!
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/11/04 13:08:52
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Th Precison x1 is totally crazy, even the last beta! the led color change ability just disapeared after boot!
Did you try to reinstall the software?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/11/04 18:08:47
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felipy2k
Th Precison x1 is totally crazy, even the last beta! the led color change ability just disapeared after boot!
Did you try to reinstall the software?
several times! worst experience ever! just uinstall and waiting fome some actual beta stage ... seems like alpha !
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards!
2018/12/02 21:48:46
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Anyone else notice that the 2070 black claims to be 2-way SLI ready? Probably a copy/paste error.
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