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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/18 09:04:56 (permalink)
Mine is the RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra hybrid, it is dead silent , Vertical card mount with top mounted radiator
tip; Watch the RGB fan header on your card, Its hot-butter soft/thin so be real carful lining up the pins if you are going to use it
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/19 21:40:51 (permalink)
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I bought the cable to connect my pump to the MB header. We will see how that goes 
How did that go? Does it work
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/19 21:58:35 (permalink)
I tried the mini 4pin GPU to 4pin PWM - the pump didn't work. I'm not sure if the cable itself is a dud (CRJ brand off of Amz) or if my mobo didn't like it (tried different fan headers and set them to voltage/dc). VRM and radiator fans worked but no activity from the pump.
I hope I'm doing something wrong as the fridge noise is brutal!
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 01:18:21 (permalink)
Yup sounds like a 1000 cicadas making love in my PC case. Beyond funny and unacceptable 🤣

GPU 4pin to motherboard pwm worked on my 1080ti hybrid. Mmm wonder what they changed I know the connector looks different idk if the pin layout is the same
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 06:36:49 (permalink)
I bought the 4 Pin adaper for my 3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid. As you realized it doesnt fit properly. You have to turn it (the 4 Pin adapter) 180° so the clamp is the other way around to the connector (the clip of the pump is now pushing against the back side of the adapter). I made a little cut with a knife so the clip can "fix" into the connector. Just take a look on the PCB if you're not sure how to connect it and compare to the GND connector. The pinout should be fine. Just a 180° turn.
 
I have to get a y-cable for the 2 GPU fans now, because my board doesnt have enough space.
 
It seems to work. Pump is not buzzing anymore.
 
 
post edited by naturian - 2021/01/20 06:42:48
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 07:12:53 (permalink)
Thanks, naturian. I accidently snapped the clip on the pump header so the cable fit pretty snug after that - I think it might be an issue with the cable or my motherboard so I'll test those out some more.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 07:27:54 (permalink)
I made a little "graphic" to show, what i mean... Should be fine as a quick solution. The "opened" side of the adapter has to be connected as shown. It feels like you're connecting it wrong. :D
 
edit: removed the graphics because its wrong. Just connect the adapter and the black connector from the pump just as described. 
 
 
post edited by naturian - 2021/01/21 10:34:08
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 08:44:22 (permalink)
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I made a little "graphic" to show, what i mean... Should be fine as a quick solution. The "opened" side of the adapter has to be connected as shown. It feels like you're connecting it wrong. :D
 





I'm confused, doesn't it plug into the pump, not the board?
Not sure I want to do this if I have to go cutting things out lol. 
post edited by Rbk_3 - 2021/01/20 08:51:15
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 08:48:47 (permalink)
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naturian
I made a little "graphic" to show, what i mean... Should be fine as a quick solution. The "opened" side of the adapter has to be connected as shown. It feels like you're connecting it wrong. :D
 





I'm confused, doesn't it plug into the pump, not the board?


You can't plug it into the pump because there's no connector on the hybrid. The black jumper controls fans and pump. You have to connect the fans directly to the MB to control pump and fans separately. Provided that I understand you correctly

The beige jumper controls the fan on the gpu, the blue one is empty. Just for the sake of completeness
post edited by naturian - 2021/01/20 08:52:14
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 08:52:54 (permalink)
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I made a little "graphic" to show, what i mean... Should be fine as a quick solution. The "opened" side of the adapter has to be connected as shown. It feels like you're connecting it wrong. :D
 





I'm confused, doesn't it plug into the pump, not the board?


You can't plug it into the pump because there's no connector on the hybrid. The black jumper controls fans and pump. You have to connect the fans directly to the MB to control pump and fans separately. Provided that I understand you correctly



So we are clear. I want just to hook my pump to the motherboard. I already have my fans connected to my motherboard and control with GPU temps via Argus Monitor. I just plan to plug the pump cable into the adapter and into thew motherboard and tuck the fan cable inside the card enclosure. 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 09:44:35 (permalink)
I have exactly the same plan. :) Imho the only solution the hybrid kit, is disconnecting the fans from the pump, separate both (pump and radioator fans) and connect them to the mb. i just want to fan curve both, radiator fans and pump via argus. :)
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 10:05:21 (permalink)
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I have exactly the same plan. :) Imho the only solution the hybrid kit, is disconnecting the fans from the pump, separate both (pump and radioator fans) and connect them to the mb. i just want to fan curve both, radiator fans and pump via argus. :)




Yea Argus is awesome, I just discovered it the other day. So just to confirm,  there is no problems connecting the mini 4 pin to the pump, correct? The issue you were having was just trying to plug the cable into the GPU board? 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 10:14:31 (permalink)
Yup, it works. The connector doesn't fit perfectly but everything seems to work! :) 
 
The "issue" i had was the fans that started to speed up. I deactivated everything and the pump was silent. Just connect them as shown in the graphics and it should work. just disconnect the radiator fans and connect them via a y-cable with the mb. you'll then have full control over the onboard gpu fan, the pump and the radiator fans. :)
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 10:35:01 (permalink)
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Yup, it works. The connector doesn't fit perfectly but everything seems to work! :) 
 
The "issue" i had was the fans that started to speed up. I deactivated everything and the pump was silent. Just connect them as shown in the graphics and it should work. just disconnect the radiator fans and connect them via a y-cable with the mb. you'll then have full control over the onboard gpu fan, the pump and the radiator fans. :)


Where exactly did you have to cut out? Was that on the connector? I’m still a little confused lol
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 10:40:15 (permalink)
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Yup, it works. The connector doesn't fit perfectly but everything seems to work! :) 
 
The "issue" i had was the fans that started to speed up. I deactivated everything and the pump was silent. Just connect them as shown in the graphics and it should work. just disconnect the radiator fans and connect them via a y-cable with the mb. you'll then have full control over the onboard gpu fan, the pump and the radiator fans. :)


Where exactly did you have to cut out? Was that on the connector? I’m still a little confused lol


I made a cut on the adapter, exactly on the back side of the gpu connect on the adapter. Just enough so the connector of the fans can clip in to this cut slot.. Oof.. Hard to describe 😅
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 21:29:31 (permalink)
It finally worked - I made the error of inserting the mini gpu cable upside down into the pump's cable (its late and I'm old lol). Thanks for your help, naturian.
 
My XC3 3080 is now whisper quiet idling at 27c :D!
 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/20 23:35:55 (permalink)
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It finally worked - I made the error of inserting the mini gpu cable upside down into the pump's cable (its late and I'm old lol). Thanks for your help, naturian.
 
My XC3 3080 is now whisper quiet idling at 27c :D!



Yeah! Congrats! :) it's way better without this annoying buzz. :)
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/21 09:29:01 (permalink)
Hoping to get a hybrid card, but worried about pump noise, does the mini gpu cable mod void warranty?
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/21 09:58:34 (permalink)
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Hoping to get a hybrid card, but worried about pump noise, does the mini gpu cable mod void warranty?




warranty shouldn't void. you just have to recover the original state when you send your card to RMA. Correct me if I'm wrong. :)
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/21 10:04:40 (permalink)
I want to try the next "step" now. I bought an y-cable for the two radiator fans to connect them to the mainboard. i now want to connect them back with to the graphic cards (black jumper) so the GPU can control the Fans again. Has anyone made this already?
 
GPU temp went down to 24° after the mod. Holy.. It was about 26-27° before.
post edited by naturian - 2021/01/21 10:14:03
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/21 23:10:01 (permalink)
I'm waiting for the cable to do the mod but my question is where would the cable exit the shroud?

Also you can use Fan Control by Remi Mercier to control the rad fans without connecting them to the mb.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/21 23:17:02 (permalink)
I read this 50 times snd still not sure what you mean:(
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/21 23:54:14 (permalink)
I removed the graphic, because I made a mistake. Just ignore it. Just remove the black fan cable of the gpu, which is the cable for the pump too and connect it to the adapte. then connect it to the MB. Just make sure that the clip of the radiator/fan cable is turned upside down (180 degrees) of the adapter cable (4 pin male gpu) because evga inversed the pin out of this cable.

Then disconnect the radiator fans and connect them with a Y-cable and straight to the MB too.

I will to connect them back to the gpu but I'm waiting for the adapter (4 pin pwm male to 4 pin gpu female) to realize this.
 
You have to separate the radiator fans from the pump. otherwise you'll control both, pump speed and radiator fans. The tool looks fine. maybe a good free alternative to argus monitor, but I rather pick argus.
post edited by naturian - 2021/01/22 00:29:22
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/22 01:36:06 (permalink)
Thanks for this. So the fan cable that come out of the pump will be useless? Also where would the adapter leave the shroud?
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/22 01:41:08 (permalink)
Correct. You can pull it through the top of the card. There's enough space at the PCIe connectors.
 
Don't wonder. The pump doesn't have any RPM sensor. It will stay at 0 rpm but you're able to control it via the current (set the control to DC otherwise the pump will run at 100% which is even louder than the standard speed)
post edited by naturian - 2021/01/22 01:43:46
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/22 07:15:26 (permalink)
I also performed the pump PWM cable mod on my XC3 Hybrid kit and running it at 70%. MUCH better. This is how it should be from the factory and hearing the original 100% voltage volume makes me feel bad for people they say theirs is "silent." It's not, I promise. You're all missing out.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/22 07:16:58 (permalink)
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I also performed the pump PWM cable mod on my XC3 Hybrid kit and running it at 70%. MUCH better. This is how it should be from the factory and hearing the original 100% voltage volume makes me feel bad for people they say theirs is "silent." It's not, I promise. You're all missing out.




agreed. Mine is running with 30% in idle.. GPU is remaining cool. My system is absolutely silent now.. 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/22 13:15:04 (permalink)
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It finally worked - I made the error of inserting the mini gpu cable upside down into the pump's cable (its late and I'm old lol). Thanks for your help, naturian.
 
My XC3 3080 is now whisper quiet idling at 27c :D!


 
Awesome! What speed is your pump running it?
 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/22 13:22:03 (permalink)
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I also performed the pump PWM cable mod on my XC3 Hybrid kit and running it at 70%. MUCH better. This is how it should be from the factory and hearing the original 100% voltage volume makes me feel bad for people they say theirs is "silent." It's not, I promise. You're all missing out.




agreed. Mine is running with 30% in idle.. GPU is remaining cool. My system is absolutely silent now.. 




Interesting, I thought I read something the pump doesn't start until 65% or something, is that not accuarate? 
 
naturian
Correct. You can pull it through the top of the card. There's enough space at the PCIe connectors.
 
Don't wonder. The pump doesn't have any RPM sensor. It will stay at 0 rpm but you're able to control it via the current (set the control to DC otherwise the pump will run at 100% which is even louder than the standard speed)




Can it fit out where the fan cable comes out? I planed to wrap the fan cable inside the housing and stick the pump cable through that slot if it can fit. 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/22 14:23:17 (permalink)
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I also performed the pump PWM cable mod on my XC3 Hybrid kit and running it at 70%. MUCH better. This is how it should be from the factory and hearing the original 100% voltage volume makes me feel bad for people they say theirs is "silent." It's not, I promise. You're all missing out.




agreed. Mine is running with 30% in idle.. GPU is remaining cool. My system is absolutely silent now.. 




Interesting, I thought I read something the pump doesn't start until 65% or something, is that not accuarate? 
 
Hm.. I've made the experience that it's even turning with 20%. Do you know who suggested that? Unfortunately it's very inaccurate, because you don't have any response, except the noise of the pump.   
 
 
naturian
Correct. You can pull it through the top of the card. There's enough space at the PCIe connectors.
 
Don't wonder. The pump doesn't have any RPM sensor. It will stay at 0 rpm but you're able to control it via the current (set the control to DC otherwise the pump will run at 100% which is even louder than the standard speed)




Can it fit out where the fan cable comes out? I planed to wrap the fan cable inside the housing and stick the pump cable through that slot if it can fit. 


Mh.. Didn't try that.. But maybe it's possible. I will disassembly the card when the new adapter arrives.. The idea is good. Imho there's not that much space inside the housing, but give it a try.
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