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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/20 13:56:21 (permalink)
what is the actual oem model unit of the aio?
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/20 14:58:44 (permalink)
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what is the actual oem model unit of the aio?


400-HY-1988-B1 for mine.
 
I think the issue is with 3080 FTW3 Ultra boards?  It seems that people that have XC or 3090's aren't experiencing the pump noise, though I have no clue what would be different that would cause a buzz.
 
I've tried the cable mod to control pump RPM, and I wasn't able to control the pump at all, it was stuck at 0 RPM.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/20 15:11:29 (permalink)
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400-HY-1988-B1 for mine.
 
 
 


I mean who makes the unit.
Are they using coolit or asetek cooler?
Did they grab a corsair h60 and adapt it to their own?
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/20 15:18:53 (permalink)
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I think the issue is with 3080 FTW3 Ultra boards?  It seems that people that have XC or 3090's aren't experiencing the pump noise, though I have no clue what would be different that would cause a buzz.



I think some people are more sensitive to it, while others are in rooms that are not as quiet compared to those who can hear it. It's subjective and there are a lot of factors like which case, distance from case, etc. I don't like it either, but I mostly agree with what Dabadger84 said.
 
The guy that did the 3090 FTW3 Ultra - Hybrid Kit Installation video today, Druuzil Tech & Games also did a video on the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid (non kit) and when asked "How is the pump noise and overall loudness at a given clock speed compared to the air cooled FTW3?", he replied "Comparable. The fans are quieter (being 120mm case fans vs 80mm fans on the GPU, and lower rpm), but the pump noise makes up for it.". There are some other replies related to the pump as well in the comment section.
 
Link to vid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-dJ9REhaIc
 
 
Edit - The thing I forgot to add is that you, I, and anyone who can hear it more than others probably run all their fans on low. I have two 180mm intake fans, which both run very very quietly (~500RPM) and a single Noctua NF-A15 HS-PWM Chromax in the middle of my NH-D15 running at similar or less RPM. I watched guys video above until he turned it on and his case fans are louder and don't seem to be running at low RPMs imo.
post edited by Shiki8 - 2020/12/20 15:28:02
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/20 23:28:32 (permalink)
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I think the issue is with 3080 FTW3 Ultra boards?  It seems that people that have XC or 3090's aren't experiencing the pump noise, though I have no clue what would be different that would cause a buzz.



I think some people are more sensitive to it, while others are in rooms that are not as quiet compared to those who can hear it. It's subjective and there are a lot of factors like which case, distance from case, etc. I don't like it either, but I mostly agree with what Dabadger84 said.
 
The guy that did the 3090 FTW3 Ultra - Hybrid Kit Installation video today, Druuzil Tech & Games also did a video on the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid (non kit) and when asked "How is the pump noise and overall loudness at a given clock speed compared to the air cooled FTW3?", he replied "Comparable. The fans are quieter (being 120mm case fans vs 80mm fans on the GPU, and lower rpm), but the pump noise makes up for it.". There are some other replies related to the pump as well in the comment section.
 
Link to vid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-dJ9REhaIc
 
 
Edit - The thing I forgot to add is that you, I, and anyone who can hear it more than others probably run all their fans on low. I have two 180mm intake fans, which both run very very quietly (~500RPM) and a single Noctua NF-A15 HS-PWM Chromax in the middle of my NH-D15 running at similar or less RPM. I watched guys video above until he turned it on and his case fans are louder and don't seem to be running at low RPMs imo.


Ok so in the last day the noise has definitely gotten better.  There's still a hum but now it's on par with my cpu aio, so for now, unless it gets worse again, I'm happy!
 
I think it came down to air in the loop.  I had to shake my card around a bit with it unplugged from the PCIE but still powered via the 8-pins and the system on (so the pump is running).  That made a big difference in the beginning and now I think it's worked more air out of the pump and into the rad, so it's better.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/21 06:30:19 (permalink)
After using it for more than a week it isn't loud at all. My H150i is louder.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/21 07:25:37 (permalink)
My 3080 FTW3, shipped on Dec 17th and has no noticeable pump noise beyond a foot or so away.  My 2080 Ti hybrid was much much louder.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/21 07:44:43 (permalink)
Strange the way the same batch of HYBRID kits are having mix of totally silent and noisy pumps.
 
is your card horizontal or vertical?  Mine is horizontal and it's totally silent. curious if this may impact the sound?
 
I am curious too for those that hear any noise beyond 1" away - while it's running have you tried turning the case/card on it's side so the tubes point up, maybe and even a bit upside down just to make sure if any air were trapped in the pump it can make it's way to the radiator? 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/21 07:48:19 (permalink)
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I installed my hybrid kit and there was 0 pump noise. If anything the single fan on the thing is LOUD. It scales off VRAM temp and hits 2000RPM at 55-60C. Thing is louder than my 8 noctua's combined.


As much as I love EVGA cards, their fans are complete garbage. I replaced the EVGA fan that I had on my 2080 Ti hybrid with a Noctua and I ordered 2 more Noctua fans so I'll have 3 of them for the 3090 Kingpin hybrid.
 
 
 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/21 07:49:42 (permalink)
still trying to decide if i should slap the evga aio on y asus model 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/22 14:47:31 (permalink)
Just installed the hybrid kit on my XC 3080 last night. While thermal performance is good, the pump noise is pathetic. If I had to use this on a computer beside me (mine's used in the living room behind a cabinet door), I'd demand a refund. EVGA needs to add pump control to Precision X yesterday. It sounds exactly like an old 3.5" hard drive, in the worst way. Also, the VRM fans gets way too loud/fast on the auto setting. 2000rpm fan by default on load goes against any idea of having a quiet card.
 
For gaming, for sure, it is/can be much quieter than the air cards, by a large margin. But for idle/desktop use... that's a huge sacrifice to lose the total silence of the air cards.
post edited by tommyv2 - 2020/12/22 15:37:02
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/22 18:57:27 (permalink)
I think a lot of complaints are from people that have no experience with liquid cooled products..I mean your moving a liquid,of course its gonna be louder than moving air..Liquid cooling is meant for performance not for being quiet.
post edited by mx353 - 2020/12/22 19:00:40
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/22 19:04:18 (permalink)
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I had to RMA my card due to buzzing noise at idle. Im starting to think this is the norm which is a dealbreaker for me.




If you get another like that could always do the trick of plugging into the mother board header to tone down the pump speed a little. Did you just submit a ticket or did you get approved? 




It's weird for me reading these experiences and advice.  My first experience with any type of watercooling has been my current H55 AIO.  It's dead silent on full speed and noisy on normal and low.  Like huh?   So I keep it at maximum speed all the time and it's dead silent.

||  CPU: Intel 10700k   ||  GPU:  evga 3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid ||  MB: Gigabyte z490 UD AC  || RAM: 2 x 16GB 3000mhz DDR4 SDRAM  || Samsung EVO 970 Plus 2TB   ||    Dell S2417DG Monitor    ||  Soundblaster AE-7  ||  Phanteks p400a Case  ||   be Quiet! Dark Rock Slim CPU Cooler  ||  Corsair AX1600i PSU  ||  9 Fans total in system ||
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/22 19:08:00 (permalink)
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400-HY-1988-B1 for mine.
 
 
 


I mean who makes the unit.
Are they using coolit or asetek cooler?
Did they grab a corsair h60 and adapt it to their own?




Apparantly it's Asetek Gen 6 for the 2080 hybrids and I believe it's the same again.  Not sure why they didn't just go with what the current is, the Gen 7.

||  CPU: Intel 10700k   ||  GPU:  evga 3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid ||  MB: Gigabyte z490 UD AC  || RAM: 2 x 16GB 3000mhz DDR4 SDRAM  || Samsung EVO 970 Plus 2TB   ||    Dell S2417DG Monitor    ||  Soundblaster AE-7  ||  Phanteks p400a Case  ||   be Quiet! Dark Rock Slim CPU Cooler  ||  Corsair AX1600i PSU  ||  9 Fans total in system ||
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/22 19:09:59 (permalink)
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As much as I love EVGA cards, their fans are complete garbage. 
 
 

 
Amen! It's like somebody sat down and deliberately designed them to be the loudest they possibly could be.   To get my 2080 Super to stay under 70 degree it turned the fans into jet engines.  I couldn't wait to rip that cooler off and put an AIO on with Silent Wings fans, then put all the fans to silent mode.
 

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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/22 19:15:00 (permalink)
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I think a lot of complaints are from people that have no experience with liquid cooled products..I mean your moving a liquid,of course its gonna be louder than moving air..Liquid cooling is meant for performance not for being quiet.


Pretty reductive statement there. The very same computer contains a Fractal Celsius S24 AIO and that pump doesn’t make any sort of whining, buzzing or whirring noise. The secret? It’s not running at full speed because their engineers made the speed controllable instead of having new customers send in needless RMAs for noise complaints. That’s how easily EVGA can fix this. Even a single toggle for “quiet mode” running at 60% DC would be enough.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/22 19:26:13 (permalink)
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mx353
I think a lot of complaints are from people that have no experience with liquid cooled products..I mean your moving a liquid,of course its gonna be louder than moving air..Liquid cooling is meant for performance not for being quiet.


Pretty reductive statement there. The very same computer contains a Fractal Celsius S24 AIO and that pump doesn’t make any sort of whining, buzzing or whirring noise. The secret? It’s not running at full speed because their engineers made the speed controllable instead of having new customers send in needless RMAs for noise complaints. That’s how easily EVGA can fix this. Even a single toggle for “quiet mode” running at 60% DC would be enough.

Like i said it's made for performance not for being quiet and a GPU generates a lot more heat than a CPU does so of course it's got to have a pump that runs faster.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2020/12/22 20:30:13 (permalink)
I just installed my hybrid and it has a loud buzzing noise to it... Tried moving case around to move air but pump is still making a terrible loud noise...
 
UPDATE: So I got super annoyed with the buzzing pump sound and I shook the hell out of the entire PC... after about an hour of DOOM Eternal the pump noise is almost gone.
 
I can still here it a little bit but it has improved a lot...hopefully the buzzing goes away completely.
 
I have had plenty of AIOs that were loud for a bit at first but this Hybrid has been really loud for a longer period of time.
 
There is hope.
post edited by herocrusher - 2020/12/22 21:06:08

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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/02 10:54:17 (permalink)
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I just installed my hybrid and it has a loud buzzing noise to it... Tried moving case around to move air but pump is still making a terrible loud noise...
 
UPDATE: So I got super annoyed with the buzzing pump sound and I shook the hell out of the entire PC... after about an hour of DOOM Eternal the pump noise is almost gone.
 
I can still here it a little bit but it has improved a lot...hopefully the buzzing goes away completely.
 
I have had plenty of AIOs that were loud for a bit at first but this Hybrid has been really loud for a longer period of time.
 
There is hope.


How is it after 2 weeks? 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/03 15:16:38 (permalink)
I just saw this forum thread as I was researching my own problem on my 3090 XC3 Hybrid. The first few days of building my new PC with the card I had only a minor coil whine that was easily ignored. But it started to snore the next day I started it.

I had the orientation correct for the hybrid with the tubes down and the top radiator higher than the pump, so I know bubbles shouldn't have been an issue. After another day, the snoring sound got worse.

I'm also having some issues with framerate spikes on it. I know it's the card because I tested a GTX 1080 hybrid on it and had no such problems with framerate spikes. I'm currently in the process of getting some help from EVGA technical support to see if the issues can be fixed. I really hope that if I do RMA the card that I don't receive another problematic one like it. The MSI GTX 1080 hybrid I tested with was a lot more stable and quieter compared to this card. I hope it's just a bad one and that it's not the norm for EVGA hybrid cards.
 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/04 13:25:59 (permalink)
My 3090 XC3 Hybrid was quiet for a month until it started making the noise in the below video:
Edit: I guess I can't share links

Submitted a ticket yesterday and waiting for a response.
post edited by gnarlygnome - 2021/01/04 18:19:17
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/15 04:39:19 (permalink)
Update on mine. 

My first one was loud and but got a lot better after a week or so. But it had high temps so I did an RMA.
 
2nd one has great temps but also has a loud buzz. Hoping it also goes away after a while. 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/15 06:46:38 (permalink)
Got my RMA that is silent and clocks better.  It also came with a huge hole  like something punctured the boxes.  Only a fan was injured as a result.  I was not looking forward to spending more time with buzzing.
 

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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/15 08:11:59 (permalink)
Chiming in, my hybrid is silent. I had a 2080 Ti that went to my brother that sounded like a refrigerator. So it is possible to get quiet ones.


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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/15 08:28:25 (permalink)
Seems luck of the draw. The first one I had was so loud. The replacement was a lot quieter. Yes, I can hear it at idle but nowhere near as much as before.
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/15 13:03:26 (permalink)
Hello,
 
Just installed the hybrid kit and i found the pump to be quite loud (a bit of a grindy noise)
while gaming not an issue but on idle when fan are low pretty annoying. what do you guys think bad pump or i got one of the good ones.
 
Temperature are real good with ml120 fans at 60% never go above 62-63. i have a corsair 570x so airflow is not that good. the card on air was hitting 78 while on the same clockspeed and fan where spining at 75%. (really loud)
Now the system is really quiet the pump is the only thing you can hear.
 
video link here:   (side pannel open) (link in .png cant post url)
 
thanks in advance for your input.
 

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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/16 06:36:16 (permalink)
I bought the cable to connect my pump to the MB header. We will see how that goes 
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/18 08:10:59 (permalink)
How loud is the noise?
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/18 08:39:17 (permalink)
Nothing really notecable , nothing over the case fans
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Re: Hybrid pump noise on the 3xxx series 2021/01/18 08:40:42 (permalink)
For some reason when I tried this , the card had power , but screen was black , plugged the pump directly to the card , no problems. (Using the mini gpu to the mobo for the pump)
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