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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/06/15 06:48:51 (permalink)
Very Impressive to complete your own machines and use them to create custom parts.
Thanks for sharing the build with us here.

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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/06/16 05:15:39 (permalink)
The pleasure is all mine!  & yes, it is the X58 Micro board.  Having such a small board allowed room to stuff all the electrical components in a mid-tower case. 
 
When I catch up on the current work-load I will attempt to finish the new machine.  Busier then a 1 legged man in a...well you know.  If this 680 waterblock project kicks off, then it really would help to have that second machine.  I see maybe 4 680's at a time, but with 2 machines, that would be 8. 
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/06/16 05:29:17 (permalink)
Very nice man! so when will you be making the home made 3d printer?

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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/06/16 18:18:30 (permalink)
Mmmm, 3d printers printing 3d printers!
 


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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/06/17 19:27:49 (permalink)
I'm inheriting his old CNC soon. Just need to get a PSU and some stepper motors.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/06/20 07:15:05 (permalink)
and me getting off my ass to finish unearthing it from the concrete.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/04 23:42:27 (permalink)
Nice job nate ! Impressed. I never built one but have ran some very large ones with motors the size of your machine. Up to a 5 axis which was sweet. Sorry looked for pics ! Maybe I can find someday and link you .Wish I had your ability to make one. Running tight tolerences is one thing building a machine from scratch (almost) is another  Great Job!
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/05 05:38:38 (permalink)
Yep, his new machine is a full featured VMC, not merely a modified mini mill.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/05 06:14:36 (permalink)
Hey, Nate! To early to order Freeman Haz-suit in Black Chrome?
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/05 20:59:18 (permalink)
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Yep, his new machine is a full featured VMC, not merely a modified mini mill.


Speaking of which... I have a pallet sitting in my garage for you.  I remember you said AUG, but I wasn't sure if the beginning - or the end of August.
 
God...5 axis dave?!  man, if I knew how to utilize CAM for that I would be DANGEROUS.  I could build a 5 axis machine in my sleep... but programming a trunion table and an A axis on top of that? ....ehhh... that will be some years down the line. 
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/06 02:11:07 (permalink)
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Yep, his new machine is a full featured VMC, not merely a modified mini mill.


Speaking of which... I have a pallet sitting in my garage for you.  I remember you said AUG, but I wasn't sure if the beginning - or the end of August.
 
God...5 axis dave?!  man, if I knew how to utilize CAM for that I would be DANGEROUS.  I could build a 5 axis machine in my sleep... but programming a trunion table and an A axis on top of that? ....ehhh... that will be some years down the line. 


September 1 actually. I'm looking forward to putting it back together and getting it running.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/06 03:15:44 (permalink)
If I remember correctly the 4th & 5th axis movement was by a electric motor . The earlier 4th axis movement was by gear rack then locked axis to do machining. 4th & 5th axis ,The ratio of motor spins determined amount of axis movement. 4th axis alot of times was locked by hydraulic cyl. dont remember how they locked the 5 th axis. Hope this helps! Dont be afraid to pm me if you need information or insight .
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/06 22:12:53 (permalink)
I would use a rotary table to make a trunion table for the 4th axis (since I don't make anything like gears or any round parts) and another rotary table on top of that as a 5th axis.  Making them move is easy with steppers or servos... but programming them is completely foreign to me.  I used to program G-code by hand for years until someone here helped me out with CAM.  I use a very simple CAM program which doesn't do 5 axis.  
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/06 23:40:06 (permalink)
I had college training on Mastercam and Featurecam. Of those two I really like Featurecam.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/07 07:16:53 (permalink)
That is something I always wish I had, formal training.  Someone here on the forums was kind enough to walk me through some simple CAM functions of Enroute4.  It does what I need it to do, but one day I swear I will get into some of the crazy CAM like mastercam etc.  I sat down in front of mastercam a while back but I couldn't figure it out on my own.  Programs like that you need to sit down in a course.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/08 22:49:54 (permalink)
I learned with O.J.E. didnt have any formal training. Alot of the time a factory rep would come in and train the operator that was going to run machine and that person would train the rest of us. Really poor system if you ask me . I learned by reading the instruction manual most of the time. I found that to be the best way ,not even the repair people could figure out the machines better than me. One time I showed the guy that designed the machine(CNC) how to repair without complete disassembly. Saved him over 8 hrs work. Best thing to do Nate is not give up on reading book, if you want to learn !
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/08 23:13:10 (permalink)
Ya, part of the thing I don't like at some machine shops is the operators don't have the CAM background. It would be really helpful for them to have that, so they can go in and modify the G code if something isn't right. Instead of the operators getting the CAM experience they have the CAD engineers do it. Often times the CAD engineers don't understand the needs of the CNC operator and the limitations of the machine they're creating tool paths for. It's how tool crashes happen all the time. Nothing quite like snapping off a 1 inch mill against the side of a vice screwing up a VMC. Once saw someone do a canned drilling cycle right through a covering into the VMC wiring harness.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/08 23:22:03 (permalink)
omg i would DIE if I snapped off a 1" carbide end mill.  Its like 75 for my 1/2 carbide 4 flute end mill.  Although these steppers likely won't have the oomph.
 
speaking of steppers, i think I have had it with the ones i have.  They have ENTIRELY too much resonance.  The resonance is transferring to the cut.  anything around 10-15ipm, the X reaches perfect resonance.  I was reading about hybrid steppers.  Are they any better with stepper resonance? 
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/08 23:29:33 (permalink)
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Ya, part of the thing I don't like at some machine shops is the operators don't have the CAM background. It would be really helpful for them to have that, so they can go in and modify the G code if something isn't right. Instead of the operators getting the CAM experience they have the CAD engineers do it. Often times the CAD engineers don't understand the needs of the CNC operator and the limitations of the machine they're creating tool paths for. It's how tool crashes happen all the time. Nothing quite like snapping off a 1 inch mill against the side of a vice screwing up a VMC. Once saw someone do a canned drilling cycle right through a covering into the VMC wiring harness.


Ouch LOL, yea i used to talk to the programmers alot. Is how I learned the G codes and how to go in blk-blk to debug the program. would write it down then call programmer to come fix . At that time in my life we used alot of taped programming not like todays computerized controls where you can go in and fix or program your own toolpath.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/08 23:42:27 (permalink)
Nice build Nate.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/09 00:11:49 (permalink)
LOL, Nate I have broken 2" x12" carbide rought cutters for roughing out titianium ! Was trying to debug a area where the programmers didnt do there work correctly. They were breaking @ least 1 a shift for months so I was told about it by friend and my lead man found out i knew how to find errors and sent me to debug program. Took me 2hrs to get to the area where the mistake was. Probably 30 min to fix due to multiple errors. You would cry your eyes out at the end mills I have either broke or replaced. I used to be a tool setter for 1/2 a factory making B1-B and space shuttle.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/08/09 09:22:46 (permalink)
I did a tour of the Strum Ruger & Colt factories a few years back and I couldn't believe how many CNC's they had in operation.  They had VMC's just doing a single operation.  My G-code knowledge is pretty limited to the basics, but I can look at what my CAM program spits out, and adjust it as I need (like heights and finishing passes etc)  
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/10/04 07:32:23 (permalink)
Nate one question plz answer it
 
How do you do it? :P
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/10/04 17:03:29 (permalink)
Working on getting his original CNC shipped to me so I can get it up and running for personal projects. He's had it palletized for awhile. Working out freight shipping for it. :)
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/10/04 18:25:52 (permalink)
Nice to see Nates old Cnc rig getting a good home .
 
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/10/04 20:17:14 (permalink)
I have always wanted a home CNC. Amazing work. 
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/10/05 02:10:53 (permalink)
How much for the CNC?
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2014/10/06 08:35:10 (permalink)
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Nate one question plz answer it
 
How do you do it? :P


How did I do it?  Set lots of time and money aside and do months if not years of research on the subject.  Its not something you can just jump into. 
 
You can buy a good Benchtop CNC for under $10,000.  I prefer to make them simply because its the exact size and work envelope that I want, and the experience making it delivers in spades. 
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2016/06/12 05:32:45 (permalink)
Outstanding! Nice work.
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Re: Home made CNC...2 2016/06/12 15:54:53 (permalink)
Thanks!  I have more machines to post pictures of.  Just slow with progress.
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