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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:34 PM (permalink)
i was there are on that argument...boy was that a heated one!

and ati can run physx now (windows 7 only from my understanding), with a hack and a decent nvidia card. a few people have already done it..including me...but i was using a gt240 and only got 155 cpu points...got like 165 with a 9800 gt...i think i could break in to the 200's with a gtx280..(speculation of course)

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:56 PM (permalink)
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You know what bugs me about the HW bot thing, why do they disable the PPU.  I specifically bought Nvidia cards because they HAD phys-x.  Let ATI come up with something for their cards.  If that give Nvidia an advantage, then wouldn't that make ATI try to develop something to combat it?


The reason is simple. Futuremark does not support PhysX via the GPU. All Test and PhysX is run CPU. That's why hwbot doesn't recognize it. Now go back and do all those Vatage runs right!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:01 PM (permalink)
boooo!  :P  maybe I will be fully functional tonight... pending a trip to the hardware store, and they have hose clamps and insulation.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:12 PM (permalink)
not entirely true....
orb use to take physx enabled, but since all the ati people couldn't run it..it was a big ole mess with the scoring. so orb elected to drop physx in the interest of justice(so to speak) not sure if that influenced how hwbot did their scoring for vantage...remember..3dmark06 uses some form of physics as well...not sure why it works better for ati here than with vantage...
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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:13 PM (permalink)
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boooo!  :P  maybe I will be fully functional tonight... pending a trip to the hardware store, and they have hose clamps and insulation.


Ah suck it up and deal with it. I'm waiting for you and awalleyeguy to catch up.
 
Oh, and SniperOZ is going to be real upset soon. Looks like a certain someone will be taking his #1 Cup away from him in the x58 Classified Reference Clock catagory.
post edited by ShockTheMonky - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:16 PM

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:28 PM (permalink)
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not entirely true....
orb use to take physx enabled, but since all the ati people couldn't run it..it was a big ole mess with the scoring. so orb elected to drop physx in the interest of justice(so to speak) not sure if that influenced how hwbot did their scoring for vantage...remember..3dmark06 uses some form of physics as well...not sure why it works better for ati here than with vantage...
anyone with any input would be welcomed.


When Vantage first released, FutureMaek implemented the use of PhysX via the CPU with the use of Ageia drivers. Its original intent was to use the CPU as PhysX because majority of ppl did not have an Ageia PhysX card but the was some level of PhysX withing the programming. At that time this was supported by both ATI and NVIDIA. But later on NVIDIA changed the playing field for Vantage by buying up Ageia then implementing PhysX via the GPU as well as the CPU. This in turn skewed the results of which FutureMark still does not support. It will accect the runs for the data base but legitimate runs are still recognized as those using the default CPU PhysX.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:42 PM (permalink)
all was cool when it was on a addon card, but once it went gpu bound...it became a problem.

but now

with windows 7 and a small hack...ati can now run physx..via...nvidia card addon..(rotflmao) and they dont seem to do half bad either..

check out my addon...haha


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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:51 PM (permalink)
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all was cool when it was on a addon card, but once it went gpu bound...it became a problem.

but now

with windows 7 and a small hack...ati can now run physx..via...nvidia card addon..(rotflmao) and they dont seem to do half bad either..

check out my addon...haha



Still not recognized by hwot tho. So rather than get your possible points by skewing them with a cheat, get them legit.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:54 PM (permalink)
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johnksss

all was cool when it was on a addon card, but once it went gpu bound...it became a problem.

but now

with windows 7 and a small hack...ati can now run physx..via...nvidia card addon..(rotflmao) and they dont seem to do half bad either..

check out my addon...haha



Still not recognized by hwot tho. So rather than get your possible points by skewing them with a cheat, get them legit.


get them with a cheat? what are you taking about?
all my submits are without physx and legit. not sure where your going with that.

i was just being funny

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:01 PM (permalink)
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johnksss

all was cool when it was on a addon card, but once it went gpu bound...it became a problem.

but now

with windows 7 and a small hack...ati can now run physx..via...nvidia card addon..(rotflmao) and they dont seem to do half bad either..

check out my addon...haha



Still not recognized by hwot tho. So rather than get your possible points by skewing them with a cheat, get them legit.


get them with a cheat? what are you taking about?
all my submits are without physx and legit. not sure where your going with that.

i was just being funny

And what makes you think I wasn't?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:07 PM (permalink)
cause i didn't see any lol's/ happy faces/ smileys/ haha's

you know it hard as hell to read emotions in typing...

and you tend to go off on folks.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:18 PM (permalink)
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cause i didn't see any lol's/ happy faces/ smileys/ haha's

you know it hard as hell to read emotions in typing...

and you tend to go off on folks.


I is sorry. Did I ruffle your feathers? I can be a bit Shocking you know.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:24 PM (permalink)
yes, they we're ruffled when you said get them legit.

stuff like that can follow you in the forums.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:35 PM (permalink)
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yes, they we're ruffled when you said get them legit.

stuff like that can follow you in the forums.


Ah hell, I've had stuff following me and dogging me for years. I aint worried about it. Don't be so sensitive. I'm just pokin fun at you. Trust me, I've seen all your submissions at hwbot. I know their legit. Hmmmm, or are they?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:39 PM (permalink)
you sure you didn't have a hand in deleting my last submission?
the one that said 2.5 ghz@ 5.375 wprime 1.55...hummmmmm......
i just had to re run that one last night....lol

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:43 PM (permalink)
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you sure you didn't have a hand in deleting my last submission?
the one that said 2.5 ghz@ 5.375 wprime 1.55...hummmmmm......
i just had to re run that one last night....lol


Yep. I signed in using your name and pass and deleted it because it had to be bogus.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:49 PM (permalink)
hahahaha..
that was a legit run, but i was using speedstep and cxe. so once it finished it down clocked from 4.8 down to 2.5...they said i didn't have enough validation for the submit.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:52 PM (permalink)
Yeah. I've had several runs with CPUZ and such were bonkered from CxE and such. Just one of the many little obsticles we run into as an overclockaholic.
 
Oh, btw. You're over 121.xx right now at hwbot.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:53 PM (permalink)
So i got my 920 today from EVGA. It's a D0 batch 3950A421. Any of you know anthing about this batch or one near it? I coudn't find anything. Also, what are your guys's batches?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:54 PM (permalink)
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Could have been worst, but the idea is to have everything running on plain water all the time, and only running the chiller during benching. 


I like that idea.  I think I'm going to start tinkering with my 12,000 btu a/c unit.  I really want to convert it to a chiller, but I'm going to have to learn alot.  I'm a numbers guy, I usually leave the hvac work to the pro's!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:58 PM (permalink)
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So i got my 920 today from EVGA. It's a D0 batch 3950A421. Any of you know anthing about this batch or one near it? I coudn't find anything. Also, what are your guys's batches?


refer to lower post/my opinion on it.
i haven't seen to many high over clocked 3900's yet..not using ln/le/dice/cc/phase (more speculations of course)

ShockTheMonky

Yeah. I've had several runs with CPUZ and such were bonkered from CxE and such. Just one of the many little obsticles we run into as an overclockaholic.
 
Oh, btw. You're over 121.xx right now at hwbot.


i had to stop till i could figure out this stupid 3900A batch(my 975 and my 920). some say they need to be broken in by getting them super cold. (not sure about how true that is)

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:03 PM (permalink)
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So i got my 920 today from EVGA. It's a D0 batch 3950A421. Any of you know anthing about this batch or one near it? I coudn't find anything. Also, what are your guys's batches?


Great!  You bought it from evga?  I didn't know they sold cpu's.  My batch is 3913B222.  The sweet spot is 217.  Sometimes 218 will work , but mostly not.  219 worked once for me on two 3dm06 runs, but I've never been able to get it there again.  I Think my cpu is about average as far as 920 D0's go.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:08 PM (permalink)
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xxrabid93

So i got my 920 today from EVGA. It's a D0 batch 3950A421. Any of you know anthing about this batch or one near it? I coudn't find anything. Also, what are your guys's batches?


Great!  You bought it from evga?  I didn't know they sold cpu's.  My batch is 3913B222.  The sweet spot is 217.  Sometimes 218 will work , but mostly not.  219 worked once for me on two 3dm06 runs, but I've never been able to get it there again.  I Think my cpu is about average as far as 920 D0's go.


No i didn't buy it from them, LOL. I won it from the Intel Chat. Check back a page or two and you'll see my original post of me saying i won an i7.
 
I also got some Kingston HyperX 2000mhz cas9 6gb from my local TigerDirect for $173 (they pricematched Frys). And now i just am waiting on my Classy e760 to come, which should be here friday.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:20 PM (permalink)
damn! damn! damn!
i was trying to get that same ram from frys, but they said it's discontinued. i was going to use it as back up ram. i ended up getting the patriot 1600 mhz

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:23 PM (permalink)
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damn! damn! damn!
i was trying to get that same ram from frys, but they said it's discontinued. i was going to use it as back up ram. i ended up getting the patriot 1600 mhz


That sucks. Is it still on the website? When i talked to a guy on the phone from Tiger, he said they match the website if instore pickup is available. It was, just not at my local store, so maybe i lucked out and they didn't dig very deep. I like Tiger better anyways. I also consider myself very lucky to live in a place where there is a Tiger Direct, Frys, and Micro Center, all within 20min of my house.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:28 PM (permalink)

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Thursday, January 21, 2010 0:06 PM (permalink)
 omg.. shock and his ram?!  you should be a sales guy for them 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 Thursday, January 21, 2010 0:11 PM (permalink)
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 omg.. shock and his ram?!  you should be a sales guy for them 


Can your expensive ram do any better?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 Thursday, January 21, 2010 0:20 PM (permalink)
*ahem*... 65K cpu score? 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 Thursday, January 21, 2010 0:47 PM (permalink)
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*ahem*... 65K cpu score? 


65k cpu score for what?

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