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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/04 16:52:27 (permalink)
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Oh know, what happened?

Just kept losing USB ports after a few days and the internet would intermittently fail.
 
No big problems, But I might as well turn it in for a new replacement while still in the newegg 30 day window.
 
Anyway, Back to waiting for my Nvidia 3090 SLI NVlink.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/05 06:35:37 (permalink)
So I shipped my new ASUS motherboard back to Newegg for exchange, and NOW I have received the Nvidia 3090 SLI NVlink!
 
 

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/05 06:52:19 (permalink)
Just put it on your imaginary motherboard and get to the benchmarking. Git-er-done!!! Your just playing around wasting time.




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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/05 07:06:30 (permalink)
Yep, I'll just have imagine having Fun watching Kingpin / Paul's Hardware / JayzTwoCent's and others Benchmarking their 3090's.

 
 

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/08 18:55:31 (permalink)
N/C
 
 
 
 
post edited by hallowen - 2020/10/09 03:31:18

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/08 20:20:43 (permalink)
Those Will not fit the ftw 3090's of yours? The blocks for the evga cards are not being manufactured yet. Follow this ekwb configuration tool.

https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/
post edited by sparetimepc - 2020/10/08 23:32:22




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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/15 09:16:15 (permalink)
Still waiting for someone to start manufacturing a full cover water block for the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra because even with 50F/10C air blowing directly into the triple fans, The GPU is only maintaining around 55C - 60C during Benchmarking test loads.
 
Looks like I will need to fabricate a GPU Only water block similar to the one JayzTwoCents shows in his Youtube Videos to go along with the cold air blowing across the Graphics card PCB to cool the VRM's.
 
In the meantime, I'm waiting for Newegg to ship my replacement New motherboard.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/15 18:01:45 (permalink)
And the beat goes on
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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/15 18:15:57 (permalink)
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And the beat goes on


Yep, Seems like every time a new product gets released, There are additional components that are not yet available. 

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/20 15:33:54 (permalink)
OK, Received my new replacement ASUS Rog Strix TRX40-E motherboard, Installed Both RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra's on Stock settings in SLI and managed to get #16 position in Port Royal.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/419317
 

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/20 15:43:25 (permalink)
Set the memory to +300 and the GPU to +150 and went to position #13 in Port Royal.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/51926848
 

 
 

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/20 18:51:00 (permalink)
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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/20 19:56:09 (permalink)
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How are those dx11 sli titles working out for ya?

Unfortunately, Due to all my hardware/motherboard changes, I haven't really had the time to test SLI in dx11 as of yet, But hopefully I'll be getting around to it.
Also, The new replacement motherboard I received and used for the Port Royal benches today, I found out it was the wrong model in that it was an "E-gaming" MB that according to ASUS will work with my AMD 3990X, BUT it will only operate with the 3990X at STOCK MEMORY SETTINGS!
 
Now I have to return this "E-gaming" MB (again) for a refund and I had to purchase an "XE-Gaming" MB that will allow the Memory to be Overclocked with the 3990X like my ASUS Rog Zenith II Extreme, Although as you know THAT MB didn't have 4-slot pcie spacing!
 
The RIGHT MB (I Hope) will be arriving this Friday.
 
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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/20 20:22:03 (permalink)
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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 06:56:59 (permalink)
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How are those dx11 sli titles working out for ya?

Unfortunately, Due to all my hardware/motherboard changes, I haven't really had the time to test SLI in dx11 as of yet, But hopefully I'll be getting around to it.
Also, The new replacement motherboard I received and used for the Port Royal benches today, I found out it was the wrong model in that it was an "E-gaming" MB that according to ASUS will work with my AMD 3990X, BUT it will only operate with the 3990X at STOCK MEMORY SETTINGS!
 
Now I have to return this "E-gaming" MB (again) for a refund and I had to purchase an "XE-Gaming" MB that will allow the Memory to be Overclocked with the 3990X like my ASUS Rog Zenith II Extreme, Although as you know THAT MB didn't have 4-slot pcie spacing!
 
The RIGHT MB (I Hope) will be arriving this Friday.
 
Man!, I have to say that this New Build and the components I have tried has more surprises than I care to count.  


Gosh you're having a heck of a time with that new build. You'll get it right though.




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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 10:14:37 (permalink)
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Seen your comment in the 3090 xoc bios thread. A single kpe is definitely the way to go imo atm.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 11:05:27 (permalink)
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@hallowen

Seen your comment in the 3090 xoc bios thread. A single kpe is definitely the way to go imo atm.

Yes, I agree.
Even with all the problems I have been having, It has been "somewhat" fun trying to get the 3090 SLI working, But after running only Port Royal benches in SLI and for some unknow reason not being able to run Time Spy Extreme in SLI, I am rapidly losing interest in any RTX mgpu setups.
 
There will be much more headroom to play with using a Kingpin XOC bios than having to use non-EVGA bios's and/or ruin the cards with Hard Mods to even get near what a 3090 Kingpin will be capable of, Not to mention it won't void the EVGA Warranty.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 11:11:03 (permalink)
Actually using the xoc vbios on the kp card voids the warranty.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 11:20:00 (permalink)
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Actually using the xoc vbios on the kp card voids the warranty.

"ipromisenottoRMAthiscard"

True, But You can still reflash it back to the Kingpin stock bios.
However, when you have to start soldering resistors to bypass PL on any EVGA card... Game Over.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 11:26:03 (permalink)
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@hallowen

Seen your comment in the 3090 xoc bios thread. A single kpe is definitely the way to go imo atm.

Yes, I agree.
Even with all the problems I have been having, It has been "somewhat" fun trying to get the 3090 SLI working, But after running only Port Royal benches in SLI and for some unknow reason not being able to run Time Spy Extreme in SLI, I am rapidly losing interest in any RTX mgpu setups.
 
There will be much more headroom to play with using a Kingpin XOC bios than having to use non-EVGA bios's and/or ruin the cards with Hard Mods to even get near what a 3090 Kingpin will be capable of, Not to mention it won't void the EVGA Warranty.


That's why I haven't said anything. I was wondering why you didn't run any other benchmarks other than Port Royal. It seems they work in TimeSpy Extreme (NVlink), but none of the other 3dmark's seem to be that spectacular....
 
Along with having to have a special board or no 3 spacing NVlink adapter.

Quit jumping on examples as if they are topics. A favorite forum mistake.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 11:30:00 (permalink)
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Actually using the xoc vbios on the kp card voids the warranty.

"ipromisenottoRMAthiscard"

True, But You can still reflash it back to the Kingpin stock bios.
However, when you have to start soldering resistors to bypass PL on any EVGA card... Game Over.


Yes, but is it honest to flash the card back to stock to try and rma? Nope.

If you post on the forums “hey guys look at my scores with the xoc vbios loaded” what do you think is going to happen to your warranty when evga sees that?

I have a feeling the xoc vbios for the 3090 is going to be on a request basis this time around just like it was for the 1080 ti kingpin where your name and serial number are logged before they send it to you, so they can know your cards warranty is void for requesting the xoc vbios.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 11:59:49 (permalink)
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I have a feeling the xoc vbios for the 3090 is going to be on a request basis this time around just like it was for the 1080 ti kingpin where your name and serial number are logged before they send it to you, so they can know your cards warranty is void for requesting the xoc vbios.



You are correct in that assumption. That pretty much leaves me with the "Get it Colder" route for Overclocking/Benchmarking purposes since, Similar to Vince's cooling methods, the warranty seems to remain intact no matter how low the sub-zero temperatures you apply to the card, Or am I just thinking happy thoughts again?

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 12:04:59 (permalink)
Yeah, getting it colder doesn’t void the warranty unless you break the card in the process via condensation damage, or pcb damage from dissembling the card. Cold can only get you so far without extra juice.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 12:18:22 (permalink)
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Yeah, getting it colder doesn’t void the warranty unless you break the card in the process via condensation damage, or pcb damage from dissembling the card. Cold can only get you so far without extra juice.

And therein lies the rub. Unless the New Kingpin is available with an "Unlocked" bios for voltage and No PL, All the cold in the world just isn't enough. Of course, If I wanted to totally "bypass" everything holding the card back without worrying about the fact I could lose $2500+ and the warranty in a split second like "a few" overclockers I have seen doing, Then where is all the Fun without doing that?

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 12:25:31 (permalink)
So are you, or aren’t you going to request for the xoc vbios?

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 13:00:02 (permalink)
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So are you, or aren’t you going to request for the xoc vbios?

Now, As you have stated, If anyone openly states in the Forums what they will do or won't do about requesting an xoc vbios for a 3090 Kingpin with "Big Brother" (EVGA) watching everything they say,....... How would You answer that question?
 
Along those same lines, It may even be a fact that the previous RTX 2080 Ti Kingpin xoc vbios had possibly been obtained and used without the proper "request" path using devious means by a  person or persons unknown, Perish the thought!
 
I am inclined to think that anyone will do just about anything that can be thought of to gain an edge in the wonderful world of elevating Overclocking/Benchmarking Scores, But I could be mistaken.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 13:09:03 (permalink)
Saying I plan on requesting it, and actually requesting it are two different things.
 
The last xoc vbios for the 2080 ti kingpin was publicly available from TiN on his xdev website, so anyone could get it if they knew where to look, or even just asked here on the forums.
 
 
 
 

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 13:29:44 (permalink)
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Saying I plan on requesting it, and actually requesting it are two different things.
 
The last xoc vbios for the 2080 ti kingpin was publicly available from TiN on his xdev website, so anyone could get it if they knew where to look, or even just asked here on the forums.
 
 
 
 


So more than likely, anyone should eventually be able to get the 3090 Kingpin xoc vbios in the same manner as the 2080 Ti Kingpin xoc vbios was obtained without the need for a request.
 
Looks like now we're back to waiting for the New Kingpin to be released for sale and trying to beat the Bots to obtain one.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 13:30:26 (permalink)
No, because TiN is no longer with EVGA.

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Re: Get It Colder II 2020/10/21 13:35:17 (permalink)
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No, because TiN is no longer with EVGA.


Yes, I realize that, But does that mean that Vince will release it or does anyone really know who will release it?

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