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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 08:58:41 (permalink)
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Sounds like somebody needs to buy some kneadable eraser or plastic spray ;)

@nateman
1 block Northbridge, Southbridge, 1 grouping of the vregs.
Been trying to find a good path but there are so many caps in the way


Vokl, i was looking at pics of the bloodrage to see if i could maybe think something up for you. I think having a nb-sb block as one would be doable, kind of like the Duniek one you posted. If you couldn't get a full board block (nb/sb/vreg) I was thinking you could make a vreg block and a nb/sb block, and link them with some copper tubing making it kind of a full board block, but with part of it elevated.
 
Here is a really crappy diagram. Imagine you are looking at the board from the side/back.
             /--------\
=======        ======
 vreg                   nb/sb
copper tubing is the above thing. 
 
if i remeber, i will do a better diagram when i get home...photoshop ftw.
I can try to figure up a full board block too, though i don't know if it will end up feasable to make...
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 09:29:46 (permalink)
that was all I was coming up with... unless...

you weasel it between the 2  with a 1/8" thick copper bridge, and make 2 isolated blocks, but they are together.  4 nozzles. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 09:39:11 (permalink)
not a bad idea, back to paint!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 09:53:38 (permalink)
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Sounds like somebody needs to buy some kneadable eraser or plastic spray ;)



 
Don't use the spray... that's how I started.... to many applications... been there done that.  Just buy the brush on stuff in a can... one thick coat... very thick... ultra thick... and it covers, seals and comes off easier.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 10:01:39 (permalink)
defiantly.  I am removing my super thick coat, and it comes up with ease.  Plasti-dip.  @ Lowes, you will find it in the spray paint section
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 10:14:21 (permalink)
Was just a suggestion i use kneadable eraser on my boards followed by a few other layers

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 10:36:01 (permalink)
i found the kneadable eraser to be much harder to remove.  The liquid rubber comes up as one giant sheet (provided you put it on thick enough) 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 10:42:28 (permalink)
I use the liquid plastic with the eraser on top it with sticky back Armacell on top or the eraser.
post edited by overclocker333 - 2009/12/09 10:44:47

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 10:45:58 (permalink)

5.2ghz highest recorded W3570 on chilled water in the world 
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Another Cheap AC Chiller Project  
 Get It Colder II 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 10:46:20 (permalink)
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i found the kneadable eraser to be much harder to remove.  The liquid rubber comes up as one giant sheet (provided you put it on thick enough) 


never had that issue, if you apply it nice and thick and make sure everything overlaps it comes off in large chunks, 1 if you are really good

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 11:17:36 (permalink)
guess im not that good
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 12:08:10 (permalink)
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nice man.  I like the side profile, but that factory heatsink gives me the creeps

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 13:13:29 (permalink)
OC333 somebody needs more copper

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 13:53:01 (permalink)
I agree. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 14:42:44 (permalink)
hay guys i think i need moar rad?



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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 15:57:49 (permalink)
Is that 480 for just the cpu and nb/sb/mofset? If so, you should be easily fine! lol
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Volk, i whipped up some waterblock stuff in Illustrator for ya (not any accurate measurements though...just using the pic):

The darker color is where the block would be "on the board." The yellow is where you would have copper tubing "bridging" the blocks over caps and whatnot.

I hope you like them!

1: Very radical design; probably would be hard to make. Single pass on small vreg, double pass on large vreg, nb, sb. 


2: Simplist design;would be easist to make. Single pass on both vregs, double pass on nb, sb. 


3: Hybrid with only 1 bridge between the seperate vregs; still hard to make probably. Single pass on small vreg, double pass on large vreg, nb, sb. 


4: Hybrid with only 1 bridge between the separate vregs; a little less complicated than #3. Single pass on both vregs, double pass on nb, sb. 

 
 
 
EDIT: Images not showing up right now...maybe imageshack is having troubles...idk. I will wait a bit and hope they come up.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 16:14:18 (permalink)
Thanks alot for the ideas and the post man.. recommending BR for you 


The last design seems the most feasible and cost effective to me.  Also going with a dual pass over the mosfets seems like it kill flow and be unnecessary.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 16:38:16 (permalink)
Yea i figured the double pass on the vreg(s) was a bit overkill. So the second and 4th seem the most plausible. Can you see the images by any chance? I still can't.
 
Here are the links just in case you can't see the pics:
 
1: http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad132/xxrabid93/bloodrage1copy.jpg
2: http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad132/xxrabid93/bloodrage2copy.jpg
3: http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad132/xxrabid93/bloodrage3copy.jpg
4: http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad132/xxrabid93/bloodrage4copy.jpg
 
EDIT: ****, the links don't work either, they give me the little X in a box.
 
Please tell me if you can't see them. If so, i can try uploading them to imageshack (i have an acount there and photobucket).
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 16:51:31 (permalink)
that would be a nightmare as far as getting fluid from both VR's to the NB/SB's.  Can you post that pic by itself? 
As far as simplicity, I hate to say separate blocks are always easiest.  Just stinks to have so many extra hoses.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 17:12:08 (permalink)
Been talking to duniek, the guy who made the blocks i posted, he said its possible but would be crazy expensive.

I can see the pictures just fine in Chrome and FF, are you guys by any chance using IE?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 17:58:58 (permalink)
Yea, im using IE. Well at least you can see them. I am the only one who can't see my own pics. LOL.

@Nate: Yes separate blocks are definitely simpler...but one block looks so much nicer. About the pic, do you mean the pic of just the board? If so, here it is:

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 17:59:46 (permalink)
I dread my 295 RMA policy.  I just hope they have a dual board laying around, or my benching takes a sabattical until the 300's come around.  I guess in the meantime I can chase the single card 31K mark?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 18:01:12 (permalink)
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Yea, im using IE. Well at least you can see them. I am the only one who can't see my own pics. LOL.

@Nate: Yes separate blocks are definitely simpler...but one block looks so much nicer. About the pic, do you mean the pic of just the board? If so, here it is:




That is one sexy board.  either your making acrylic bridges, or using tubes to bridge it.  not impossible, but I need a picture of a naked board to really get a good look.  Also many different angle shots
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 18:10:45 (permalink)
just an FYI that is actually the Bloodrage, I have the Bloodrage GTI.  The cooling solution is different and the GTI lacks SAS ports.

If i could get the NB, SB, and the vregs next to the IO plate cooled on one black that would be ideal, but 2 blocks would be ok as well.
Pictures should be incoming nateman, will have to poke the people taking them for me and make sure they are still alive 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 18:20:13 (permalink)
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That is one sexy board.  either your making acrylic bridges, or using tubes to bridge it.  not impossible, but I need a picture of a naked board to really get a good look.  Also many different angle shots

Newegg always has multiple pics: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186169&Tpk=bloodrage
I will try to find some naked pics of the board...though when i was looking before i couldn't really find any. If i can't find any naked pics, i guess i can post up many different angles.
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If i could get the NB, SB, and the vregs next to the IO plate cooled on one black that would be ideal.


I think this is very doable. My 4th layout i showed you guys caters to this very nicely.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 18:26:04 (permalink)
Decent pic of the vregs on the Bloodrage (i assume they are the same as on the GTI, adn the heatsinks are the olny difference)

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2009/02/foxconn-blood-rage/8l.jpg

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 18:42:13 (permalink)
If those blasted caps werent there it would be such an easy block to make 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 19:02:26 (permalink)
If you were willing to mod the board, would it be possible to resolder those caps on the back of the board? Or do you want to keep the board in normal condition, just in case of needing to RMA it?

You can easily see the solder points for the caps on the back of the board, so i would assume you could resolder the caps on the back of the board...just thinking...
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 19:02:45 (permalink)
that is a great pic though...  acrylic bridges all the way... unless you are VERY handy with a soldering iron
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/12/09 19:24:57 (permalink)
The board is already going to be modified so that i can raise pcie clock past 103.  Not sure i like the idea of moving a cap around to the back but it may be a possibility.

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