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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/02 11:31:36 (permalink)
Thats incorrect, the condenser temperature(within operating  limits) has no effect on evaporation temperature.

You must remember that refrigeration is based on the liquid/evaporation cycle, whos properties are defined by the boiling point of the refrigerant, and the pressure differential at the point of evaporation.

The higher the differential, the greater the evaporation temperature will decrease. (get cold).

if you chill the condenser below the normal operating temperature you decrease the pressure needed for condensation, which decreases the mass flow of refrigerant thru the metering device.

Which yields less capacity, which in turn yields less cooling.

Again , I hope I explained that in an understandable way.





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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/02 12:35:12 (permalink)
Rbieze just rolls in like a ninja, schools us, then bounces.  You need to stick around here more man ;) 

You roll like planetary alignments... very rare, but always significant. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/02 17:28:03 (permalink)
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Rbieze just rolls in like a ninja, schools us, then bounces.  You need to stick around here more man ;) 

You roll like planetary alignments... very rare, but always significant. 


+1 You (Rbieze) obviously have a great wealth of knowledge about refridgerant that would be a very nice contribution to this thread.
 
 
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/02 19:38:36 (permalink)
What is the most common reason for pifast not working? I start it, and it says "step6..." and then it just gives the finishing message, no time etc. Seems like maybe a voltage issue, but what?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/02 20:20:44 (permalink)
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+1 You (Rbieze) obviously have a great wealth of knowledge about refridgerant that would be a very nice contribution to this thread.
 


Thats because I'm currently in school for HVAC, and so far I'm getting an A+ in my refrigeration class.
Looking forward to a career as a refrigeration engineer.



Lately all I dream about is designing refrigeration systems, then when I wake up I pee icicles and fart frost...

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/02 21:24:36 (permalink)
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+1 You (Rbieze) obviously have a great wealth of knowledge about refridgerant that would be a very nice contribution to this thread.



Thats because I'm currently in school for HVAC, and so far I'm getting an A+ in my refrigeration class.
Looking forward to a career as a refrigeration engineer.



Lately all I dream about is designing refrigeration systems, then when I wake up I pee icicles and fart frost...


LOL. By any chance do you know how to build an SS?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/03 02:20:54 (permalink)
Getting on a plane to go home for the Labor Day weekend.  Finally get to see my little girl! ...maybe knock out a few waterblocks too?

HA! yea right, my wife would take a sledge to my mill if I so much as touch it this weekend.  Hope you guys spend some good quality time with your  families!!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/03 03:38:23 (permalink)
Knocked up a chiller for a mate thought you guys would like a look at it...



 
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/03 04:38:00 (permalink)
Dam thats nice.....and neat ....what sort of temps you get out of that??

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/03 05:19:05 (permalink)
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Dam thats nice.....and neat ....what sort of temps you get out of that??

Thanks mate  I am an automotive spraypainter with 24 years experience so the paint is a custom 3 layer pearl  green.... It gets down to -20c keeps an I7 @ 4ghz at 0c at idle and under load about 15c you can set this chiller to what ever temp you want -20c to 35c in 0.5c increments as well....
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/03 05:46:19 (permalink)
Very nice bigrelly.

I'm also a big fan of using the PLC temp controllers on chillers, really ads some flexibility for usage.

Show us some internals thwacking shots please

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/03 11:19:57 (permalink)
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Getting on a plane to go home for the Memorial Day weekend.  Finally get to see my little girl! ...maybe knock out a few waterblocks too?

HA! yea right, my wife would take a sledge to my mill if I so much as touch it this weekend.  Hope you guys spend some good quality time with your  families!!


Dude, its Labor Day, Memorial Day is in May, of all people, YOU should know.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/03 13:00:05 (permalink)
it was 4 am when I wrote that... cut me some slack.  I tried for an hour in the airport terminal to correct it, but the pictures bigrelly posted (VERY sexy btw now that I can see them) kept making my phone crash. 

Sooo happy to finally get to hold my little one!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/03 15:26:42 (permalink)
as usual bigrelly..... looks amazing.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/04 01:03:29 (permalink)
Thanks guys ill get some more pics up soon of the guts.....

 
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/04 08:28:08 (permalink)
Yeah wow that looks great! I loveeeeeee the paint job, good work!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/04 20:14:51 (permalink)
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/05 00:51:51 (permalink)


 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/05 02:02:37 (permalink)
Sweet Bigrelly.....


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/05 08:42:11 (permalink)

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/05 18:02:54 (permalink)
Big relly that looks amazing. What do you have it tuned for? Why did you choose such a small condenser coil for such a beast of a chiller. I cant see that coil being able to dump much more than 100 watts or so.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/05 21:02:01 (permalink)
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Big relly that looks amazing. What do you have it tuned for? Why did you choose such a small condenser coil for such a beast of a chiller. I cant see that coil being able to dump much more than 100 watts or so.

Thanks reggiesanchez.. 
The guy I built it for just wants to keep his water around ambiant or a bit less he dose not want the joys of condensation lol And we all no about the prep for that... I can crank out much more powerfull units with biger condensers and larger compresors and heat exchange units insted of ponds, So thats why this one is not so powerfull but will do him fine for what he wants, And later on its easy to up the grunt on it if he gets the bug for sub 0c   
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/05 21:03:35 (permalink)
Cool, that makes alot of sense. I wish I had someone with your paint skills around me.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/05 21:06:22 (permalink)
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Cool, that makes alot of sense. I wish I had someone with your paint skills around me.

LOL there would be alot of sparkling computers if I was around ..

 
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/08 15:42:53 (permalink)
why are are points like that in the most active teams section when we went on a 400 point run last month, I guess it dosent really matter but it bothers me
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/10 04:30:49 (permalink)
I know I have been out of touch for a while, but what are the differences between the center fans, and the external exhaust 460's?  I get scared when I see those center fan ones because the sandwich 295's were better (for overclocking voltage) then the single boards with the center fans.  There is a sale at Microcenter, and I am not terribly far from one off post here. 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/10 14:04:56 (permalink)
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I know I have been out of touch for a while, but what are the differences between the center fans, and the external exhaust 460's?  I get scared when I see those center fan ones because the sandwich 295's were better (for overclocking voltage) then the single boards with the center fans.  There is a sale at Microcenter, and I am not terribly far from one off post here. 

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The only difference is the cooling, and the ones with the "center fan" cool better. The stock cooling really sucked, so Evga and other companies decided to use a non reference cooler right out of the gate. I dont know if there are any non reference GTX 460s out there right now, so I dont think there is anything to worry about.

Also, dont bother with the 768MB version.

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On another note Nate, you wont be able to find Medal of Honor on your base, they banned it from being sold at Post Exchanges because you can play as the the Taliban
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/10 19:36:29 (permalink)
Yea, I read about that in the Army times.  What a load. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/11 00:25:12 (permalink)
@jon from other post fit better here.

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i have yet to do hard volt mod yet and seem to be doing ok.
it's more of a trial and error and patience sort of thing, but im sure you'll find your place in it all.
and mobiles are where it's at for trophies...:)


Yea you do all right for your self however, 2 new cars and a endless money hole my bank calls an escro account really  puts computer parts on the back burner for now So that leaves me benching what I got and I have a feeling im not hitting 6ghz without a few mods ya know.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/09/11 01:05:31 (permalink)
ok, but what does that have to do with benching old parts that you and your friends have?
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