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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 08:18:29
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Some more results.
Firestrike 18238
Firestrike extreme 9183
Not bad for Windows 7 lol.
Looks like I can't post a link because I don't have enough posts. 3dmark.cIm/fs/5435951 Change the I to an O. I got the exact same score, but on lower clocks. 
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 08:19:36
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67% ASIC on my Classified..............
Might have slightly something to do about not going over 1480MHz.
Yeah, that's why I'm disappointed. I thought these were binned. Why put 14+3 on a non-binned GPU? Even if I put it under water, it's not going to do much better.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 08:49:08
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Classifieds are not binned. I learnt the hard way as well lol.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 08:58:01
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Classifieds are not binned. I learnt the hard way as well lol.
I'm going to call EVGA and see if this coil whine is due to my PSU or GPU. Both are EVGA, so hopefully they can help. The whine is definitely coming from the GPU's VRM though, it's strongest towards the back of the card. Maybe I'll get a second bite at the apple with an RMA. I wish I could just get a GPU without whine!
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 09:00:25
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Once more, Just the luck of the draw in the Silicone Lottery.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 09:11:12
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More like Silicon and Coil Whine lottery. I avoided Gigabyte G1 because of all the whine posts on newegg and now people are reporting getting G1 without the whine lol.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 14:11:46
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67% ASIC on my Classified and it makes coil whine, too! I've gone through two G1's already, both hit 1490-1510, but had terrible whine. This Classified whine isn't as bad, but it still buzzes. Is it my PSU (also EVGA) that is causing the whine?
Either way, very disappointed in the Classified. Can't get above 1480 without crashes, even using Kingpin's 141% power limit. Temps never go above 70C. If I knew this was going to buzz, too, I would have just kept my G1.
I'm in that club as well. It sucks. I guess its eBay then waiting for stocks to replenish.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 14:32:26
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It's all asic % regardless of non reference pcb for air and even water. Kingpin said this himself.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 14:36:17
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I couldn't wait any longer for evga for a classified so I went with msi gaming. Got 77% asic and it boost to 1405 on stock volts which is 1.19v.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 16:54:28
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It's all asic % regardless of non reference pcb for air and even water. Kingpin said this himself.
K|ngp|n also said you would want Low ASIC for Air Cooling, not high. I retract this, as he has changed to say High ASIC all the time, because Low needs more voltage. But, he also goes to say, that anything over 1.25 on air, and the cards (All of them) tend to give out on ambient temps.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 18:35:10
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Well, after installing K|ngp|n's custom BIOS I can get stable at +135 Core, +625 Memory, but much above that and the driver keeps crashing. Still, I pushed 17,499 on Firestrike, and that's running a Xeon 2687Wv3 that I can't overclock (workstation board). I don't think 3DMark is capable of maxing out that many cores, which hurts my combined score quite a bit. My graphics score is 21,178. My GPU temp never goes above 45C with the waterblock.
It also seems true that K|ngp|n's BIOS is hardlocked at 1.21v. I can't get it to go higher, even by modifying values using the bios tweaker. Either there's something else going on "under the hood", or I need an EVBot to go farther.
Still, I'm not disappointed. Maybe I'll get a KPE to SLI with it. That should work, right? Even if the Classy might hold it back a bit.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 18:48:45
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Well, after installing K|ngp|n's custom BIOS I can get stable at +135 Core, +625 Memory, but much above that and the driver keeps crashing. Still, I pushed 17,499 on Firestrike, and that's running a Xeon 2687Wv3 that I can't overclock (workstation board). I don't think 3DMark is capable of maxing out that many cores, which hurts my combined score quite a bit. My graphics score is 21,178. My GPU temp never goes above 45C with the waterblock.
It also seems true that K|ngp|n's BIOS is hardlocked at 1.21v. I can't get it to go higher, even by modifying values using the bios tweaker. Either there's something else going on "under the hood", or I need an EVBot to go farther.
Still, I'm not disappointed. Maybe I'll get a KPE to SLI with it. That should work, right? Even if the Classy might hold it back a bit.
have you looked up the Classy tool, first, and where are you measuring voltage? If you are checking Precision, don't. GPU-Z gets closer even thought it is still wrong.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/18 22:39:25
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Seems like every program's wrong (GPU-Z, furmark, PrecisionX, MSI AB all say 1.21v). Classy tool measures lower than any of them, which I find weird. I think I'm going to have to start measuring the voltage from the card itself, if I want to go any farther. Y'know, like you're supposed to. :)
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 01:02:49
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Seems like every program's wrong (GPU-Z, furmark, PrecisionX, MSI AB all say 1.21v). Classy tool measures lower than any of them, which I find weird. I think I'm going to have to start measuring the voltage from the card itself, if I want to go any farther. Y'know, like you're supposed to. :)
It is true. All above program can't read Classified voltages correctly. Classy tool report lower and constantly changing. The readout is too low, so i think is also wrong. Classy tool = 1.16~1.175, Gpu-Z = 1.187 locked. So strange. PrecisionX, if you turn Overboost on, it seemed to also follow Classy tool measurements.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 01:33:14
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You have to use a DMM to measure -- only Real Way to do it :) I OC'd my classy to 1505/8000 with stock volts 1.200 and then no matter what I did it would not scale with extra volts to my liking. I will be selling in the forums here either today or tomorrow and let someone have fun with phase change or freezing it. It would still be a super card even for gaming @ 1505/8000 so maybe someone wants to pick it up for that but all in all it is worth the extra funds for the 2 bios's and quality components!! The thing Everyone has to remember is it doesn't matter which version of card you decide on it all comes down to the chip lottery in terms of how far you can push them in regards to speed. Also -- I would not have the time to watercool this thing because of my work duties for the future so I am sure there would be atleast an extra 40 MHz in her if not more with getting her wet :)
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 03:26:41
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So I am pretty sure now, that I will not buy a Classy. I cannot understand why they are not binning the card... the OCs reached here a not really good. ASIC of 67%, what is this?^^
You could OC almost any custom design to 1500 with a bit of luck in the silicon lottery. I'll save some money and get two 980 ti strix when they come available (In Germany those are 70€ cheaper a piece).
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 04:07:24
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To me, the classified was only $50 more than the normal SC+ version, and my block (from my 980 classy) fits well enough. It meant not having to buy another block, redo my rigid pipe loop to fit a different card, etc. EVGA also doesn't mind putting a waterblock on the card (it doesn't void the warranty). And mine overclocks to 1530 with 8200MHz memory. I can likely push it farther if I start playing with voltages (I had it at 1567 with lower memory clocks, but I've found memory affects FPS more). I can't complain about a card that benches almost as well as an SLI 980 reference setup. But your situation sounds different, and that's quite a bit of savings by going with the Strix.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 05:22:50
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 08:26:13
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My classy (ASIC = 79.4%) arrived from Newegg on Thursday. I got it installed Thursday night along with Precision X. I ran several benchmarks on Friday and everything seemed stable at the stock speeds. I played ARK for about an hour and had one crash (which I'd never had before) but nothing else out of the ordinary. Precision X showed the card boosting to ~1430 and was reaching temps of ~76c. Last night, I decided to play Witcher 3 for a bit. I had been playing for about 45 minutes when my computer spontaneously rebooted (and this machine has been rock solid stable for 3 years now). When it rebooted, I saw the initial Windows 7 splash screen and then artifacts *everywhere*. I tried everything I could think of. Removing and re-installing the card. Using DDU to remove/re-install the drivers. Oddly enough, Precision X seemed to be unable to communicate with the card once this happened. Re-installing that didn't make a difference, either. I can't tell you how disappointing this is. :-( Needless to say, I removed the card, re-installed my 2 x EVGA GTX 780 Tis and everything is back to normal. My first non-reference card and it ends like this. I guess I'll be calling Newegg on Monday. I'm curious to see how they'll handle it since their return policy on these cards is "replacement only" but they obviously don't have any in stock. If they end up giving me a credit, I don't know if I should wait for another Classified or just go back to reference cards? I've used EVGA cards for years and never had anything like this happen so I guess I was due for it but still... :-(
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 08:33:29
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Not Good to hear about that problem at all! That is indeed a very disappointing result from an EVGA 980 Ti Classified card, ESPECIALLY with an ASIC of 79.4%. I had earlier though about purchasing one to play with under sub-zero cooling, But now I have reservations about that.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 08:45:01
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My classy (ASIC = 79.4%) arrived from Newegg on Thursday. I got it installed Thursday night along with Precision X. I ran several benchmarks on Friday and everything seemed stable at the stock speeds. I played ARK for about an hour and had one crash (which I'd never had before) but nothing else out of the ordinary. Precision X showed the card boosting to ~1430 and was reaching temps of ~76c. Last night, I decided to play Witcher 3 for a bit. I had been playing for about 45 minutes when my computer spontaneously rebooted (and this machine has been rock solid stable for 3 years now). When it rebooted, I saw the initial Windows 7 splash screen and then artifacts *everywhere*. I tried everything I could think of. Removing and re-installing the card. Using DDU to remove/re-install the drivers. Oddly enough, Precision X seemed to be unable to communicate with the card once this happened. Re-installing that didn't make a difference, either. I can't tell you how disappointing this is. :-( Needless to say, I removed the card, re-installed my 2 x EVGA GTX 780 Tis and everything is back to normal. My first non-reference card and it ends like this. I guess I'll be calling Newegg on Monday. I'm curious to see how they'll handle it since their return policy on these cards is "replacement only" but they obviously don't have any in stock. If they end up giving me a credit, I don't know if I should wait for another Classified or just go back to reference cards? I've used EVGA cards for years and never had anything like this happen so I guess I was due for it but still... :-(
I'd like to know your full system specs and overclocking before I give you some advice.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 08:56:33
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My classy (ASIC = 79.4%) arrived from Newegg on Thursday. I got it installed Thursday night along with Precision X. I ran several benchmarks on Friday and everything seemed stable at the stock speeds. I played ARK for about an hour and had one crash (which I'd never had before) but nothing else out of the ordinary. Precision X showed the card boosting to ~1430 and was reaching temps of ~76c. Last night, I decided to play Witcher 3 for a bit. I had been playing for about 45 minutes when my computer spontaneously rebooted (and this machine has been rock solid stable for 3 years now). When it rebooted, I saw the initial Windows 7 splash screen and then artifacts *everywhere*. I tried everything I could think of. Removing and re-installing the card. Using DDU to remove/re-install the drivers. Oddly enough, Precision X seemed to be unable to communicate with the card once this happened. Re-installing that didn't make a difference, either. I can't tell you how disappointing this is. :-( Needless to say, I removed the card, re-installed my 2 x EVGA GTX 780 Tis and everything is back to normal. My first non-reference card and it ends like this. I guess I'll be calling Newegg on Monday. I'm curious to see how they'll handle it since their return policy on these cards is "replacement only" but they obviously don't have any in stock. If they end up giving me a credit, I don't know if I should wait for another Classified or just go back to reference cards? I've used EVGA cards for years and never had anything like this happen so I guess I was due for it but still... :-(
I had a similar thing happen to a G1 980 Ti. I returned it for coil whine as well. It artifacted and created blue checkers everywhere on my desktop. Then, chrome had a small black checkered pattern whenever I opened a window. Rebooting fixed the issue. This was before I even applied an OC. The G1 I had before that didn't have this issue, but it had even worse coil whine. The Classified I just got doesn't artifact on the desktop at least, however, it still makes a damn buzzing noise under load. The 980 Ti doesn't seem very resilient. I've never had so many problems with graphics cards in my life. I hope I'm just getting unlucky.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 08:58:19
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My classy (ASIC = 79.4%) arrived from Newegg on Thursday. I got it installed Thursday night along with Precision X. I ran several benchmarks on Friday and everything seemed stable at the stock speeds. I played ARK for about an hour and had one crash (which I'd never had before) but nothing else out of the ordinary. Precision X showed the card boosting to ~1430 and was reaching temps of ~76c. Last night, I decided to play Witcher 3 for a bit. I had been playing for about 45 minutes when my computer spontaneously rebooted (and this machine has been rock solid stable for 3 years now). When it rebooted, I saw the initial Windows 7 splash screen and then artifacts *everywhere*. I tried everything I could think of. Removing and re-installing the card. Using DDU to remove/re-install the drivers. Oddly enough, Precision X seemed to be unable to communicate with the card once this happened. Re-installing that didn't make a difference, either. I can't tell you how disappointing this is. :-( Needless to say, I removed the card, re-installed my 2 x EVGA GTX 780 Tis and everything is back to normal. My first non-reference card and it ends like this. I guess I'll be calling Newegg on Monday. I'm curious to see how they'll handle it since their return policy on these cards is "replacement only" but they obviously don't have any in stock. If they end up giving me a credit, I don't know if I should wait for another Classified or just go back to reference cards? I've used EVGA cards for years and never had anything like this happen so I guess I was due for it but still... :-(
I'd like to know your full system specs and overclocking before I give you some advice.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 10:41:43
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bmt22033
My classy (ASIC = 79.4%) arrived from Newegg on Thursday. I got it installed Thursday night along with Precision X. I ran several benchmarks on Friday and everything seemed stable at the stock speeds. I played ARK for about an hour and had one crash (which I'd never had before) but nothing else out of the ordinary. Precision X showed the card boosting to ~1430 and was reaching temps of ~76c. Last night, I decided to play Witcher 3 for a bit. I had been playing for about 45 minutes when my computer spontaneously rebooted (and this machine has been rock solid stable for 3 years now). When it rebooted, I saw the initial Windows 7 splash screen and then artifacts *everywhere*. I tried everything I could think of. Removing and re-installing the card. Using DDU to remove/re-install the drivers. Oddly enough, Precision X seemed to be unable to communicate with the card once this happened. Re-installing that didn't make a difference, either. I can't tell you how disappointing this is. :-( Needless to say, I removed the card, re-installed my 2 x EVGA GTX 780 Tis and everything is back to normal. My first non-reference card and it ends like this. I guess I'll be calling Newegg on Monday. I'm curious to see how they'll handle it since their return policy on these cards is "replacement only" but they obviously don't have any in stock. If they end up giving me a credit, I don't know if I should wait for another Classified or just go back to reference cards? I've used EVGA cards for years and never had anything like this happen so I guess I was due for it but still... :-(
I have had exactly the same problem with Gigabyte GTX 980ti G1 ASIC 72 , initially played GTA V at 1477 then 1466 and no more . After another freeze after rebooting I had seen only a mess ... Ti s are leftover chips from TitanX AMD we must suspect a higher that usual RMA ratio .
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 10:47:46
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As a matter of fact , my second MSI Gaming could not reach 1440 MHz during gaming ... All is about a silicon lottery : Classified or not Classified .-))
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 10:52:38
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Customers should used if they want to buy overclocked models from any brand percent of unstable cards will be little higher than with reference cards.
No matter what they choose, Matrix, Classified, HOF or Lightning. That's price of gaming on higher clock. Because of that is good if customer from start choose brand with good technical support.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 11:06:54
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Customers should used if they want to buy overclocked models from any brand percent of unstable cards will be little higher than with reference cards.
No matter what they choose, Matrix, Classified, HOF or Lightning. That's price of gaming on higher clock. Because of that is good if customer from start choose brand with good technical support.
I have to admit that I ve got a hard time to catch the full meaning of what you just wrote here .. You mean that the more expensive models could be defective in the same way as the cheaper ones ?
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 15:00:06
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No I don't mean that, I mean among reference models with NVIDIA clock is less chance to customer get unstable card. When they search for better chips sometimes pass and junk incapable to work on Classified or Superclocked speed but capable to work on NVIDIA speed. You will very rear to meat someone with NVIDIA GeForce unstable on NVIDIA speed, even AMD push cheap more than NVIDIA, NVIDIA leave at least 20% average space. Because of that their cards OC well, but I can't remember when I read last time for some NVIDIA reference card problems about driver crash or similar thing... OK some small percent but usually you will see problems with Strix, Superclocked, Classified, Lightening... I don't say that's reason to customer avoid best models, only to be ready ...
post edited by Vlada011 - 2015/07/19 15:05:14
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 15:02:32
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If the card can't hold the factory overclock you can get it RMA'd, though. If you get a reference model and it can't hold the custom overclock you want (even if that's only bringing it up to the same level as the custom cards), you're not going to get much sympathy from the vendor.
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Re: GTX 980 TI Classified
2015/07/19 15:06:17
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I know you can get RMA, and every customer should do that if card not work on stock clock
I only want to say that risk is little higher than with reference cards.
I will never recommend someone to drop clock if card is unstable, even 10-15MHz less, instantly RMA.
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