i figured as much, the hunt continues
 

Mustang60
WHy does everyybody have to have a ti ? a1080 is still a 1080 . :)

i dont understand why anyone would buy a 1080 or 1070 at all... afterall ALL gpus of a generation are the same, they simply differ in the number of 'disabled' components.
Defective chips aside, i dont understand why nvidia would be making lower bins of product at this stage in the game.  Seems to me every last chip should be a fully enabled 1080ti version.

dlbsyst

sao123

Mustang60
WHy does everyybody have to have a ti ? a1080 is still a 1080 . :)

i dont understand why anyone would buy a 1080 or 1070 at all... afterall ALL gpus of a generation are the same, they simply differ in the number of 'disabled' components.
Defective chips aside, i dont understand why nvidia would be making lower bins of product at this stage in the game.  Seems to me every last chip should be a fully enabled 1080ti version.

I think it all just comes down to price. The GTX 1080ti is an awesome card, no doubt and I'm sure everyone would love to have one. Not everyone can afford one though. Also it is overkill for anyone gaming at 1080p which apparently most gamers still do.   

Might be because they are playing at 120hz/144hz or even multi-seat gaming @ 60hz/120hz/144hz which I do.

sao123

Mustang60
WHy does everyybody have to have a ti ? a1080 is still a 1080 . :)

i dont understand why anyone would buy a 1080 or 1070 at all... afterall ALL gpus of a generation are the same, they simply differ in the number of 'disabled' components.
Defective chips aside, i dont understand why nvidia would be making lower bins of product at this stage in the game.  Seems to me every last chip should be a fully enabled 1080ti version.

marketing. they need various products for various price points. if they JUST sold the 1080ti for 399 which they easily could they would miss countless millions in profit. 
 
i'm optimistic about pricing though. next batch of antminer s9s is ready for march and one of those for 2300 will equal 3x1080ti capping the 1080ti value around 800, 850max if it's just going to be used for mining. the s9 power supply is even cheaper. 

Chips are not the holdup. The most likely reason is it was a decision made back in October or November. Interviews with various card Partners had them saying they did not want a repeat of last time when 980ti's were being liquidated at 400 to 450 and even that was hard to sell because the 1070 could easily be had for that. Nvidia got the supply situation wrong. They did not create enough to last until the next release. You can't exactly make a full run on a week's notice and on top of that gddr5 memory has been reduced in production. They made an educated guess on what would last until the March announcement and they guessed wrong. All we have right now is either rationing or they are building on chips that were already produced. The retailers can literally not buy enough so the problem is 100% supply-side. Sit tight for a month it's going to change soon

just moved to California, actually super close to EVGA headquarters and was looking to build a gaming box as I havent played in two years and I guess I'm SOL. 
 
Kinda like this desperate feeling but Im hoping this isn't a six month wait.

sao123

racebum
Chips are not the holdup. The most likely reason is it was a decision made back in October or November. Interviews with various card Partners had them saying they did not want a repeat of last time when 980ti's were being liquidated at 400 to 450 and even that was hard to sell because the 1070 could easily be had for that. Nvidia got the supply situation wrong. They did not create enough to last until the next release. You can't exactly make a full run on a week's notice and on top of that gddr5 memory has been reduced in production. They made an educated guess on what would last until the March announcement and they guessed wrong. All we have right now is either rationing or they are building on chips that were already produced. The retailers can literally not buy enough so the problem is 100% supply-side. Sit tight for a month it's going to change soon

Based on what logic?
According to sources, GP102 chip production has ceased.  No new large inventory of that is going to exist. 
www.3dcenter.org/news/nvidia-ampere-geruechtekueche-gp102-produktion-bereits-eingestellt-ga104-seit-februar-produktio
 
According to sources, no new GPU is going to be launched at GDC or GTC.  
www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-geforce-next-gen-graphics-card-release
 
According to sources, Nvidia expects supply is going to remain low and prices are going to remain high through at least Q3 of this year. 
www.pcgamer.com/hardware-seller-massdrop-says-nvidia-predicts-graphics-card-prices-will-continue-to-go-up-through-the-year/
 
I don't see anything changing for quite a long time...

I thought it is now confirmed something was coming at GTC, a least the announcement: 
 
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60992/nvidia-launch-new-geforce-gtx-series-during-gtc-2018/index.html
 
That said, capacity is capacity and demand is demand, so unlikely there's going to be any light at the end of the tunnel in April.

harmattan

sao123

racebum
Chips are not the holdup. The most likely reason is it was a decision made back in October or November. Interviews with various card Partners had them saying they did not want a repeat of last time when 980ti's were being liquidated at 400 to 450 and even that was hard to sell because the 1070 could easily be had for that. Nvidia got the supply situation wrong. They did not create enough to last until the next release. You can't exactly make a full run on a week's notice and on top of that gddr5 memory has been reduced in production. They made an educated guess on what would last until the March announcement and they guessed wrong. All we have right now is either rationing or they are building on chips that were already produced. The retailers can literally not buy enough so the problem is 100% supply-side. Sit tight for a month it's going to change soon

Based on what logic?
According to sources, GP102 chip production has ceased.  No new large inventory of that is going to exist. 
www.3dcenter.org/news/nvidia-ampere-geruechtekueche-gp102-produktion-bereits-eingestellt-ga104-seit-februar-produktio
 
According to sources, no new GPU is going to be launched at GDC or GTC.  
www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-geforce-next-gen-graphics-card-release
 
According to sources, Nvidia expects supply is going to remain low and prices are going to remain high through at least Q3 of this year. 
www.pcgamer.com/hardware-seller-massdrop-says-nvidia-predicts-graphics-card-prices-will-continue-to-go-up-through-the-year/
 
I don't see anything changing for quite a long time...

I thought it is now confirmed something was coming at GTC, a least the announcement: 
 
 
 
That said, capacity is capacity and demand is demand, so unlikely there's going to be any light at the end of the tunnel in April.

The very top comment of that article says its not true...
 

Alex ParshallCEO / Owner at Computer Headquarters, Inc
I think this is not true. I've heard direct from the VP of sales of one of Nvidia's main board partners that we wont be seeing the refresh until Q3 at minimum

sao123

harmattan

sao123

racebum
Chips are not the holdup. The most likely reason is it was a decision made back in October or November. Interviews with various card Partners had them saying they did not want a repeat of last time when 980ti's were being liquidated at 400 to 450 and even that was hard to sell because the 1070 could easily be had for that. Nvidia got the supply situation wrong. They did not create enough to last until the next release. You can't exactly make a full run on a week's notice and on top of that gddr5 memory has been reduced in production. They made an educated guess on what would last until the March announcement and they guessed wrong. All we have right now is either rationing or they are building on chips that were already produced. The retailers can literally not buy enough so the problem is 100% supply-side. Sit tight for a month it's going to change soon

Based on what logic?
According to sources, GP102 chip production has ceased.  No new large inventory of that is going to exist. 
www.3dcenter.org/news/nvidia-ampere-geruechtekueche-gp102-produktion-bereits-eingestellt-ga104-seit-februar-produktio
 
According to sources, no new GPU is going to be launched at GDC or GTC.  
www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-geforce-next-gen-graphics-card-release
 
According to sources, Nvidia expects supply is going to remain low and prices are going to remain high through at least Q3 of this year. 
www.pcgamer.com/hardware-seller-massdrop-says-nvidia-predicts-graphics-card-prices-will-continue-to-go-up-through-the-year/
 
I don't see anything changing for quite a long time...

I thought it is now confirmed something was coming at GTC, a least the announcement: 
 
 
 
That said, capacity is capacity and demand is demand, so unlikely there's going to be any light at the end of the tunnel in April.

The very top comment of that article says its not true...
 

Alex ParshallCEO / Owner at Computer Headquarters, Inc
I think this is not true. I've heard direct from the VP of sales of one of Nvidia's main board partners that we wont be seeing the refresh until Q3 at minimum

I THINK this is not true

Aren't there a few "when is the next NVIDIA chip coming out?" threads already? That might be a better place for this conversation, so we can keep this one uncluttered for Jacob and others to announce current stock?
 
But then, who am I to talk.. I've taken this thread off topic a few times, too, just not to this extent.

1060 SSC https://www.ebay.com/itm/263519876913

Looks like it is just a 1060 kinda day.

1070 SC2 in stock

1060 6GB SSC in stock