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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 10:47:24 (permalink)
I am seeing 85-90c on the top memory bank with my card overclocked +50 core +915 memory with all 3 fans set to 100%. The right memory bank is around 85c. I have the EVGA DG-87 case with all the case fans at 100%. The memory gets over 90c if I try to loop unigine heaven. I can't overclock the core more than +50 with max power target and voltage or I get computer crashes. I have a EVGA 850 SuperNova PSU and everything stays on target for voltage. Thought these cards were made to overclock, seems I can't really overclock much and if I do, I get thermal issues with the memory. I have since lowered the memory clock to +500 to stay in the low 80s for temp.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 12:37:05 (permalink)
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For me playing Black Ops 4 with an overclock of +115 Core and +750 Memory with Power Limit/ Voltage maxed, fans at 100% my Top and right memory gets to 91C and GPU about 74C.  If I run stock clocks and power limit set to 100 as default the top and right memory gets about 83-85C and GPU at 69C, which seems like a normal expected result.

What is the airflow in your case like? Running Assassin's Creed Odyssey at 3440x1440 with max settings and the frame rate uncapped and I get max 56 C on the GPU and 64 C on the top and right memory banks. The GPU fans are running at 100%.
 
Granted I am using a Corsair 750D Airflow case and have every possible fan running at 100% so my airflow is about as good as it can get. 
 
Edit: Forgot to mention my OCs. +140 on the GPU and +700 on the memory.


I have a NZXT s340 case, which has a 120m NZXT AER Fan in rear for exhaust and an 140m NZXT AER fan on top for exhaust.  Then on the front of the case I have a Kraken x61 radiator with two 140m fans as intake.  I'm thinking with maybe the radiator in the front all that intake air that's coming in and going through the radiator is just blowing hot air onto the GPU which could be raising the temps higher then expected.  What do you guys think?




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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 12:42:17 (permalink)
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I am seeing 85-90c on the top memory bank with my card overclocked +50 core +915 memory with all 3 fans set to 100%. The right memory bank is around 85c. I have the EVGA DG-87 case with all the case fans at 100%. The memory gets over 90c if I try to loop unigine heaven. I can't overclock the core more than +50 with max power target and voltage or I get computer crashes. I have a EVGA 850 SuperNova PSU and everything stays on target for voltage. Thought these cards were made to overclock, seems I can't really overclock much and if I do, I get thermal issues with the memory. I have since lowered the memory clock to +500 to stay in the low 80s for temp.




You're trying to run another 1.8Ghz effective on the memory and you're complaining about temps? Maybe I am missing something.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 12:45:21 (permalink)
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I am seeing 85-90c on the top memory bank with my card overclocked +50 core +915 memory with all 3 fans set to 100%. The right memory bank is around 85c. I have the EVGA DG-87 case with all the case fans at 100%. The memory gets over 90c if I try to loop unigine heaven. I can't overclock the core more than +50 with max power target and voltage or I get computer crashes. I have a EVGA 850 SuperNova PSU and everything stays on target for voltage. Thought these cards were made to overclock, seems I can't really overclock much and if I do, I get thermal issues with the memory. I have since lowered the memory clock to +500 to stay in the low 80s for temp.




You're trying to run another 1.8Ghz effective on the memory and you're complaining about temps? Maybe I am missing something.




That is not that big of an OC for these cards.  My memory benches fine at +1100.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 12:45:50 (permalink)
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For me playing Black Ops 4 with an overclock of +115 Core and +750 Memory with Power Limit/ Voltage maxed, fans at 100% my Top and right memory gets to 91C and GPU about 74C.  If I run stock clocks and power limit set to 100 as default the top and right memory gets about 83-85C and GPU at 69C, which seems like a normal expected result.

What is the airflow in your case like? Running Assassin's Creed Odyssey at 3440x1440 with max settings and the frame rate uncapped and I get max 56 C on the GPU and 64 C on the top and right memory banks. The GPU fans are running at 100%.
 
Granted I am using a Corsair 750D Airflow case and have every possible fan running at 100% so my airflow is about as good as it can get. 
 
Edit: Forgot to mention my OCs. +140 on the GPU and +700 on the memory.


I have a NZXT s340 case, which has a 120m NZXT AER Fan in rear for exhaust and an 140m NZXT AER fan on top for exhaust.  Then on the front of the case I have a Kraken x61 radiator with two 140m fans as intake.  I'm thinking with maybe the radiator in the front all that intake air that's coming in and going through the radiator is just blowing hot air onto the GPU which could be raising the temps higher then expected.  What do you guys think?






Whatever the ambient air temp is being used by the GPU will affect your temps. So yes. That warm intake air is going to affect your temps. I've always run with all AIO's as exhaust with huge intake fans. Currently using two Noctua 200mm on a slightly modified Corsair 780T. Of course the layout of your case dictates your options.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 12:51:29 (permalink)
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I am seeing 85-90c on the top memory bank with my card overclocked +50 core +915 memory with all 3 fans set to 100%. The right memory bank is around 85c. I have the EVGA DG-87 case with all the case fans at 100%. The memory gets over 90c if I try to loop unigine heaven. I can't overclock the core more than +50 with max power target and voltage or I get computer crashes. I have a EVGA 850 SuperNova PSU and everything stays on target for voltage. Thought these cards were made to overclock, seems I can't really overclock much and if I do, I get thermal issues with the memory. I have since lowered the memory clock to +500 to stay in the low 80s for temp.




You're trying to run another 1.8Ghz effective on the memory and you're complaining about temps? Maybe I am missing something.




That is not that big of an OC for these cards.  My memory benches fine at +1100.





Okay, and what are your temps?  Apparently if temps are an issue, then it is. Frequency is not the only metric. I could run my 6850K at 4.7 ghz, 100% stable...except I can't keep the temps under control.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 12:58:21 (permalink)
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For me playing Black Ops 4 with an overclock of +115 Core and +750 Memory with Power Limit/ Voltage maxed, fans at 100% my Top and right memory gets to 91C and GPU about 74C.  If I run stock clocks and power limit set to 100 as default the top and right memory gets about 83-85C and GPU at 69C, which seems like a normal expected result.

What is the airflow in your case like? Running Assassin's Creed Odyssey at 3440x1440 with max settings and the frame rate uncapped and I get max 56 C on the GPU and 64 C on the top and right memory banks. The GPU fans are running at 100%.
 
Granted I am using a Corsair 750D Airflow case and have every possible fan running at 100% so my airflow is about as good as it can get. 
 
Edit: Forgot to mention my OCs. +140 on the GPU and +700 on the memory.


I have a NZXT s340 case, which has a 120m NZXT AER Fan in rear for exhaust and an 140m NZXT AER fan on top for exhaust.  Then on the front of the case I have a Kraken x61 radiator with two 140m fans as intake.  I'm thinking with maybe the radiator in the front all that intake air that's coming in and going through the radiator is just blowing hot air onto the GPU which could be raising the temps higher then expected.  What do you guys think?






Whatever the ambient air temp is being used by the GPU will affect your temps. So yes. That warm intake air is going to affect your temps. I've always run with all AIO's as exhaust with huge intake fans. Currently using two Noctua 200mm on a slightly modified Corsair 780T. Of course the layout of your case dictates your options.




Here is a pic of my setup with the radiator in front, the two 140m intake fans are in front of the radiator so they can't be seen.
 

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 13:03:38 (permalink)
140mm fans are weak. If it was a great 120mm fan made for rads it would be better.

And ya having the cpu rad as intake is fine.. mostly the GPU is doing all the work in games so the air wont be hot coming in.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 13:15:19 (permalink)
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140mm fans are weak. If it was a great 120mm fan made for rads it would be better.

And ya having the cpu rad as intake is fine.. mostly the GPU is doing all the work in games so the air wont be hot coming in.

The ones that I'm using that came with the Kraken X61 are "NZXT FX V2 Radiator Fan (RF-FX142-NP)", specs show it pushes 42.4-106.1 CFM at maximum of 2000rpm.


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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 13:42:35 (permalink)
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140mm fans are weak. If it was a great 120mm fan made for rads it would be better.

And ya having the cpu rad as intake is fine.. mostly the GPU is doing all the work in games so the air wont be hot coming in.

The ones that I'm using that came with the Kraken X61 are "NZXT FX V2 Radiator Fan (RF-FX142-NP)", specs show it pushes 42.4-106.1 CFM at maximum of 2000rpm.


Sweet. First ever decent 140mm fan I've heard of.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 13:48:56 (permalink)
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Okay, and what are your temps?  Apparently if temps are an issue, then it is. Frequency is not the only metric. I could run my 6850K at 4.7 ghz, 100% stable...except I can't keep the temps under control.

I understand what you are saying.  However, historically with high end EVGA cards the cooling solution has matched the performance capabilities of the card.  It seems like they are cutting it pretty close this time.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 14:06:33 (permalink)
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I have a NZXT s340 case, which has a 120m NZXT AER Fan in rear for exhaust and an 140m NZXT AER fan on top for exhaust.  Then on the front of the case I have a Kraken x61 radiator with two 140m fans as intake.  I'm thinking with maybe the radiator in the front all that intake air that's coming in and going through the radiator is just blowing hot air onto the GPU which could be raising the temps higher then expected.  What do you guys think?

I would think that the radiator with two 140mm fans blowing hot air on the GPU would definitely cause temps to rise on the GPU. I have a similar setup with my Corsair 750D Airflow case, but the radiator cooling the CPU is up top and the two fans are exhausting air out of the case through the radiator. Is there any way you can move your radiator to the top of your case and exhaust the air through the radiator out of the case?
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 14:12:54 (permalink)
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I have a NZXT s340 case, which has a 120m NZXT AER Fan in rear for exhaust and an 140m NZXT AER fan on top for exhaust.  Then on the front of the case I have a Kraken x61 radiator with two 140m fans as intake.  I'm thinking with maybe the radiator in the front all that intake air that's coming in and going through the radiator is just blowing hot air onto the GPU which could be raising the temps higher then expected.  What do you guys think?

I would think that the radiator with two 140mm fans blowing hot air on the GPU would definitely cause temps to rise on the GPU. I have a similar setup with my Corsair 750D Airflow case, but the radiator cooling the CPU is up top and the two fans are exhausting air out of the case through the radiator. Is there any way you can move your radiator to the top of your case and exhaust the air through the radiator out of the case?


Unfortunately no, the NZXT S340 doesn't allow mounting of radiator up top.  I am considering getting a different case but i'd hate to go through all the hassle if it wouldn't make a difference in temps.


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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 14:21:16 (permalink)
Take the side of case, then youll know. If its the cause, cut and opening in the back of the case, for the aio hose, and mount the radiator "behind the case"
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 15:55:52 (permalink)
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Unfortunately no, the NZXT S340 doesn't allow mounting of radiator up top.  I am considering getting a different case but i'd hate to go through all the hassle if it wouldn't make a difference in temps.

 
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Take the side of case, then youll know. If its the cause, cut and opening in the back of the case, for the aio hose, and mount the radiator "behind the case"

Definitely do take off the side of your case and see if you get lower temps. Then as Wrooooom mentioned, a case mod might not be out of order.
 
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 22:14:36 (permalink)
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Unfortunately no, the NZXT S340 doesn't allow mounting of radiator up top.  I am considering getting a different case but i'd hate to go through all the hassle if it wouldn't make a difference in temps.

 
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Take the side of case, then youll know. If its the cause, cut and opening in the back of the case, for the aio hose, and mount the radiator "behind the case"

Definitely do take off the side of your case and see if you get lower temps. Then as Wrooooom mentioned, a case mod might not be out of order.
 



So I did some experimenting with what WroooooM suggested and my temps were night and day.  Same overclock of +130 Core and +750 mem, power limit to 124% and 100 Voltage, my GPU temp was in upper 50s / low 60s with fans at 100%, and my memory banks were in the 70s.  Big difference from before of 74c GPU and 91c Mem under load.  Interesting enough with case side open I felt the radiator in front and it wasn't even hot and didn't really feel any air going thru the radiator from the front intake fans.
 
What I then ended up doing was attaching a Corsair ML120 Pro to the FTW3 fan header and have that on the bottom of the radiator blowing air towards the GPU to help push all that hot air the GPU is dumping out, now my GPU is sitting at 68c and mem at 80c under load which is more of an expected thermal result from the FTW3.  Thanks guys for the suggestions.  If anyone else is having thermal issues I would try doing similar experiments to rule out a defective card.


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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/05 22:25:24 (permalink)
Sounds like bad case air flow and the AIO won't dump a ridiculous amount of heat from a CPU unless its OC'd to the extreme but these GPUs sure are sensitive and already start at a higher thermal threshold than we're used to.

I would also recommend on sticking with 120mm configurations and possibly a different case for the sake of this GPU but if the added bottom fans bring in fresh cooler ambient air, I think you're pretty much set for now unless something changes.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/06 06:47:32 (permalink)
every now and then i notice my top memory temp reach 97c. 
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/06 08:41:28 (permalink)
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every now and then i notice my top memory temp reach 97c. 


Not all the fans are running, or your internal case temps are bad.




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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/06 18:29:38 (permalink)
I did some experimenting myself tonight. I have the EVGA DG-87 case - massive case with tons of room. 3 120MM fans on the front and 3 on the back. I also have a fan on top to pull air up that may be near the motherboard. Anyways...plenty of airflow and never had a problem with case temps. Once I installed the FTW3 card, my case temps went up from 20-25c to 35-40c. This card just puts out a TON of heat as we all would expect...until they release the hybrid kits. Some have suggested adding an extra fan blowing on the card, taking the side of the case of etc.
 
Here is what I found works -
I removed the side panel - its a plastic clear panel so you can see all the pretty LEDs and hardware, but I can remove it completely. I felt air from the GPU just blowing straight out from the top of the card if that makes sense. Instead of the fans blowing air straight off the card, they push the air out through the top of the card where the heatsink is. So when I took the side panel off, I felt a TON of hot air getting pushed out the side of my case. Temps immediately started dropping. I did add a 4th 120MM fan, plugged into the FTW3 card (crashes PX1 btw on the fan curve screen), set all the fans to 100%. Ran Unigine Heaven for 30mins and all the memory modules stayed at 70c average. The GPU itself said it was at 59c. I have mine overclocked to +875 memory and +70 core with power at 124%. It seems these cards do have fantastic airflow, just not from where we all are thinking. If you could use a vertical mounting kit to face the card towards the side of your case so the air out the top can actually get removed by the case fans, nobody would be having these thermal issues. Since the air gets pushed out the top of the card and we all are squeezing these cards into our cases with the side panel right next to the top of the card, the hot air is not getting removed. I honestly don't even think this 4th fan is needed with how the air flow is, the GPU just needs to vent the air out the top of the card somehow without obstruction. 
 
I think for now, this will have to be the temporary solution to keep my temps down by leaving the side panel off. I will certainly be looking at getting the hybrid kit once they are released to alleviate this issue all together hopefully. I had one on my 1080 and the kits are well worth the money.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/06 20:42:19 (permalink)
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I think for now, this will have to be the temporary solution to keep my temps down by leaving the side panel off. I will certainly be looking at getting the hybrid kit once they are released to alleviate this issue all together hopefully. I had one on my 1080 and the kits are well worth the money.




Don't forget that Corsair and NZXT might have GPU AIO brackets for this so you can grab one of their AIOs and put it on there.  The good thing about that is you can add a 240mm AIO for example versus just having a single 120mm rad which I feel won't be enough for these GPUs.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/06 23:59:53 (permalink)
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I did some experimenting myself tonight. I have the EVGA DG-87 case - massive case with tons of room. 3 120MM fans on the front and 3 on the back. I also have a fan on top to pull air up that may be near the motherboard. Anyways...plenty of airflow and never had a problem with case temps. Once I installed the FTW3 card, my case temps went up from 20-25c to 35-40c. This card just puts out a TON of heat as we all would expect...until they release the hybrid kits. Some have suggested adding an extra fan blowing on the card, taking the side of the case of etc.
 
Here is what I found works -
I removed the side panel - its a plastic clear panel so you can see all the pretty LEDs and hardware, but I can remove it completely. I felt air from the GPU just blowing straight out from the top of the card if that makes sense. Instead of the fans blowing air straight off the card, they push the air out through the top of the card where the heatsink is. So when I took the side panel off, I felt a TON of hot air getting pushed out the side of my case. Temps immediately started dropping. I did add a 4th 120MM fan, plugged into the FTW3 card (crashes PX1 btw on the fan curve screen), set all the fans to 100%. Ran Unigine Heaven for 30mins and all the memory modules stayed at 70c average. The GPU itself said it was at 59c. I have mine overclocked to +875 memory and +70 core with power at 124%. It seems these cards do have fantastic airflow, just not from where we all are thinking. If you could use a vertical mounting kit to face the card towards the side of your case so the air out the top can actually get removed by the case fans, nobody would be having these thermal issues. Since the air gets pushed out the top of the card and we all are squeezing these cards into our cases with the side panel right next to the top of the card, the hot air is not getting removed. I honestly don't even think this 4th fan is needed with how the air flow is, the GPU just needs to vent the air out the top of the card somehow without obstruction. 
 
I think for now, this will have to be the temporary solution to keep my temps down by leaving the side panel off. I will certainly be looking at getting the hybrid kit once they are released to alleviate this issue all together hopefully. I had one on my 1080 and the kits are well worth the money.


Well, that's how it works. It's normal.
Fans take air from the side, run it through the fins and push out on the top.
The correct airflow for your case would be front -> back or back -> front with fans on both sides.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/07 08:32:08 (permalink)
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Well, that's how it works. It's normal.
Fans take air from the side, run it through the fins and push out on the top.
The correct airflow for your case would be front -> back or back -> front with fans on both sides.



That is how the case is setup for airflow, except the case is so large you can't feel any air moving through it. EVGA designed this case, but it could just be that the larger cases have a major downside with not enough air being able to push through them. The hot air from the top of the card has no place to go. I didn't add any fans last night and I got GPU temps in the high 50s after a few hours of gaming and memory temps maxing out at 71c. Even with it overclocked by leaving the side panel off.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/08 08:51:40 (permalink)
I too have the issue on my 2080 ti FTW3 of Precision X1 0.3.5.1 randomly losing fan 3 and wattage info. A reboot is the only think that fixes it.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/08 09:57:39 (permalink)
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I too have the issue on my 2080 ti FTW3 of Precision X1 0.3.5.1 randomly losing fan 3 and wattage info. A reboot is the only think that fixes it.


There is a newer X1 that gets rid of losing the fan and senors and it does work for me.
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2879404

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/09 08:13:39 (permalink)
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Soaringswine
I too have the issue on my 2080 ti FTW3 of Precision X1 0.3.5.1 randomly losing fan 3 and wattage info. A reboot is the only think that fixes it.


There is a newer X1 that gets rid of losing the fan and senors and it does work for me.
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2879404


Are your settings saving through a restart?  When I reset my computer, my precision is back to stock...very annoying 
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/09 08:40:01 (permalink)
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Soaringswine
I too have the issue on my 2080 ti FTW3 of Precision X1 0.3.5.1 randomly losing fan 3 and wattage info. A reboot is the only think that fixes it.


There is a newer X1 that gets rid of losing the fan and senors and it does work for me.
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2879404


Are your settings saving through a restart?  When I reset my computer, my precision is back to stock...very annoying 


Mine settings are saving when I set them and it runs them even after a reboot or shutdown.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/09 09:55:31 (permalink)
Kozy88
Are your settings saving through a restart?  When I reset my computer, my precision is back to stock...very annoying 


To get any settings to save I have to close px1 with the settings first, it only writes the config to save on a clean program exit.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/09 13:47:04 (permalink)
Around 80-85°C seems to be pretty normal for the upper VRAMs on this card. 
But the boost clock of my GPU is weird. Out of the box with 100% PT, using the OC-Bios, the card boost up to 2040Mhz. When she reaches higher temps the clock rate goes down to 1935Mhz but EVGA tells that the boost clock of this card is 1755Mhz. 
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/11/09 14:58:54 (permalink)
 i read that new rtx's no longer have micron memory.. and now use samsung... with reports of lower temperatures...
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