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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 08:19:39 (permalink)
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is this different from the MCU that Jacob posted a few days ago? If so, i already tried that.
 

It is the same MCU update that Jacob F posted a few days ago. Just wanted to ensure that the fans were spinning first and foremost which is part of the troubleshooting process. 


This is something that we are looking into, if your temperatures under load for the memory bank end up at above 80C +- please contact us for a RMA. 
 
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My fans show they are running in PX1 though? On the left hand side under Fan 1, 2, and 3. each show spinning.


Just wanted to confirm that the fans are indeed confirmed to be spinning, I wanted to rule out a software bug. However your temperatures are fine and are in line with what they should be around at. Your temperatures are are in line with what I would get with my GTX 1080 ti FTW3's under load with an aggressive fan curve. But as I stated above, we are going to look into this with our PM team for you guys.


 

 
This is what I'll reach maximum in heaven benchmark. Is that too much? @EVGATech_JoseC
As it seems like this is the case on all the FTW3 cards? Maybe a issue with the temp readings? Or is it a case for RMA?
 

 
I was also able to produce that bug. Slider 53% fanspeed on fan2 and applied, ended up at 0 RPM...
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 10:31:38 (permalink)
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is this different from the MCU that Jacob posted a few days ago? If so, i already tried that.
 

It is the same MCU update that Jacob F posted a few days ago. Just wanted to ensure that the fans were spinning first and foremost which is part of the troubleshooting process. 


This is something that we are looking into, if your temperatures under load for the memory bank end up at above 80C +- please contact us for a RMA. 
 
d.burnette
 
My fans show they are running in PX1 though? On the left hand side under Fan 1, 2, and 3. each show spinning.


Just wanted to confirm that the fans are indeed confirmed to be spinning, I wanted to rule out a software bug. However your temperatures are fine and are in line with what they should be around at. Your temperatures are are in line with what I would get with my GTX 1080 ti FTW3's under load with an aggressive fan curve. But as I stated above, we are going to look into this with our PM team for you guys.


 

 
This is what I'll reach maximum in heaven benchmark. Is that too much? @EVGATech_JoseC
As it seems like this is the case on all the FTW3 cards? Maybe a issue with the temp readings? Or is it a case for RMA?
 

 
I was also able to produce that bug. Slider 53% fanspeed on fan2 and applied, ended up at 0 RPM...


I can see all 3 of my fan speeds but I set them to hit 100% fan speed at 55C and hit apply also but that just turns off the auto fan control. The hits around 63C and the memory was at 75C after running the heaven benchmark. I just don't hit apply when setting my fan speed curves anymore and leave set on auto fan control. But I and using the latest beta version X1.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 11:20:02 (permalink)
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 12:54:09 (permalink)
Under load with aggressive fan curve and no overclock, I get 80C on those two banks while the GPU is at about 67C-70C.
 
With an overclock of +800Mhz on memory and +150 gpu I get about 83C on the memory at the end of timespy, but I haven't run it for extended periods.  I assume it would climb past 83C if I looped it.  And yeah, the "cold" memory is at like 50-60C during that.  Based on the physical locations of the hot memory it's a toss up whether it's a defect or just thermal design flow on the card until EVGA wants to confirm.  Founders edition cards get just as hot on these memory locations during torture tests, and 1080Ti FTW3 have similarly high temps here.
 
Edit: Without OC and just 100% power target I actually get 84C+ on these
post edited by bladeofblue - 2018/10/29 13:41:19
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 18:41:33 (permalink)
I’m not having these issues. My card sits at about 54 degrees with the memory close to the same at full load overclocked to 2040 stable
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 18:44:39 (permalink)
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I’m not having these issues. My card sits at about 54 degrees with the memory close to the same at full load overclocked to 2040 stable

Which memory banks? The left memory bank seems to sit around 50 ish degrees where as the top and right memory banks jump into the 80s when under load.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 18:52:21 (permalink)
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I’m not having these issues. My card sits at about 54 degrees with the memory close to the same at full load overclocked to 2040 stable



Give us more details. Power, fan speed, load ?
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 18:52:52 (permalink)
reply all of them are good see pic . I had this running for about 40 minutes before taking pic

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 18:54:29 (permalink)
I’m getting 70c on the gpu and mid 80s on those hotter memory modules. Default settings, gpu fans at 100% as well as all my case fans.
 
im very disappointed :(
 
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 18:56:40 (permalink)
Are all your fans running can I get a pic of the fan screen for PX1. Did you turn on auto for your fans?
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 19:00:26 (permalink)
I was having the same problem until I realized that two of my three fans were not running. So I set them to auto and low and behold my card is a beast.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 19:01:14 (permalink)
I have heard that the new cards run warm, If I did get any version of the rtx series it would have to be a aio type or hydro copper
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 19:09:29 (permalink)
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Yeah my main concern is those two memory banks like 30c hotter than the one.

Yeah, this is something that I'll look into as well. However, I suspect that it may have to do with the way that the heat is flowing on the graphics card, which shouldn't cause issues however.
 
streetglide420
Just wanted to confirm that the fans are indeed confirmed to be spinning, I wanted to rule out a software bug. However you
Thanks, I've already been set up for an RMA, just waiting for it to be approved so i can send my CC info for the $1 hold. I'll do what ever is asked of me to trouble shoot this card from my end. Id hate to RMA a card that could be resolved with a bios update or software fix.

Definitely and thank you for your understanding. 




@EVGATech_JoseC - Can you confirm how long we should run these before checking these temps? On a simple Superposition benchmark run I'm seeing those two hotter memory banks in the 74/75 range. The temps were only climbing so I just shut things down. Fans were definitely spinning, confirmed visually, and using a aggressive fan curve.
 
Here's a single benchmark run in Superposition:
 
 
 
Here's a 15 minute test in Superposition, with steady 80+ temps on those two sensors:
 

 
post edited by PhantomApollyon - 2018/10/29 19:39:33

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 19:19:10 (permalink)
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Are all your fans running can I get a pic of the fan screen for PX1. Did you turn on auto for your fans?



Im away from my computer now, I’ll get ya a picture tomorrow.
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 19:22:55 (permalink)
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reply all of them are good see pic . I had this running for about 40 minutes before taking pic

What game are you playing, what resolution are you playing at, and what is the frame rate you're getting?

I have a 3440x1440 monitor and when I play assassins creed odyssey I cap it at 60 fps and the top two memory banks get around 60 degrees. If I play the witcher 3 with DSR 2x I get around 40 fps and the two memory banks top out at 76 degrees. If I run furmark with no AA after 10 mins the two memory banks top out at 83 degrees. In these instances all 3 fans are running at 100%.

I'm also running with a +140 Mhz OC on the GPU and a +700 Mhz OC on the memory.

Can you try running furmark with no AA for 10 mins and see what the temps of the two memory banks top out at?
post edited by aldur80 - 2018/10/29 19:25:05
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 20:16:17 (permalink)
4k Sony tv SOTR game. Max settings. Getting around 60 fps
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 20:28:28 (permalink)
So who’s gonna take their card apart to see what the deal is?
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 20:32:46 (permalink)
Just block it and put a sink on it man...that will take care of it. It's like 1watt dissipation man, a piece aluminum can do that man lol

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 20:33:40 (permalink)
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So who’s gonna take their card apart to see what the deal is?



I don't mind doing a quick tear-down to take a look but I sort of suspect there's going to be nothing to see. I should have time tomorrow night.
 
EDIT: When I spoke with EVGA support on the phone just now I was told the product team is investigating to understand if getting that close tot he 95C limit for those two sensors is to be expected or not given the configuration.
post edited by PhantomApollyon - 2018/10/29 20:47:03

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 21:15:00 (permalink)
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I was having the same problem until I realized that two of my three fans were not running. So I set them to auto and low and behold my card is a beast.

My gpu temps are normally low, mid to low 60's max, just on the default "Auto" cooling (Timespy with power slider to max and overclocked). When I tried the 0.3.4.0 PX1 I thought it was working, but I got gpu temps in the upper 70's before I shut down. It turned out that fans 2 and 3 weren't running during the test as shown by the hardware monitor. Check this if you have high gpu temps.
 
There's one other possibility for the high temps I'm seeing people have. These cards dump hundreds of watts of heat into the case...that's not a problem if you have good airflow, but case temps will jump up if not.
post edited by GNielson - 2018/10/29 22:06:00


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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/29 21:31:02 (permalink)
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4k Sony tv SOTR game. Max settings. Getting around 60 fps

Can you try running Furmark for 10 mins with no AA and see where your memory temps are at?
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/30 17:23:16 (permalink)
Used the OSC display funtion in PX1. This is what my temps are at with a 111 OC an 100% power target . Playing SOTR 4k max settings
 
 

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/30 17:27:49 (permalink)
ok here is pic of OSD  using  PX1 110 OC power target 100%. Running for 40 minutes
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/30 17:35:10 (permalink)
UPDATE: I did a tear down of the card just now, all the thermal pads and paste looked just fine as I suspected. There definitely are full chip indentations on the thermal pads, indicating they are making good contact, and everything looks to be put together as expected.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/30 17:59:16 (permalink)
Ok so why are so many people having mem temp issues? Is there some kind of consensus what is normal for mem temps on video cards?
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/30 18:43:36 (permalink)
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Ok so why are so many people having mem temp issues? Is there some kind of consensus what is normal for mem temps on video cards?


I don't think most people are saying it's a problem, but they are concerned that it's not really normal despite the limit for those memory chips being 95C.
 
Also, I will add that for those that were wanting to know- when i re-did the GPU paste with Kryonaut I saw no notable temperature reduction, maybe 1-2 C but within a margin of error I think. 
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/30 19:06:28 (permalink)
Did you use a different thermal pad for the mem chips?
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/30 19:21:01 (permalink)
Default settings, closed Phanteks Enthoo Evolv case, running Heaven at 4k highest settings for 30 minutes...
 

 
 
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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/30 19:35:00 (permalink)
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Did you use a different thermal pad for the mem chips?


I didn't have any others left to use, but the stock ones looked very run of the mill so it's possible to see some gains from replacing them. I'd want to actually measure first and make sure all the thicknesses matched up.

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Re: GDDR6 FTW3 operating temperatures? 2018/10/30 20:54:38 (permalink)
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I was having the same problem until I realized that two of my three fans were not running. So I set them to auto and low and behold my card is a beast.

My gpu temps are normally low, mid to low 60's max, just on the default "Auto" cooling (Timespy with power slider to max and overclocked). When I tried the 0.3.4.0 PX1 I thought it was working, but I got gpu temps in the upper 70's before I shut down. It turned out that fans 2 and 3 weren't running during the test as shown by the hardware monitor. Check this if you have high gpu temps.
 
There's one other possibility for the high temps I'm seeing people have. These cards dump hundreds of watts of heat into the case...that's not a problem if you have good airflow, but case temps will jump up if not.




Your thermals sound like what I was expecting from this giant heatsink. What are your system fans and case ?
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