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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 11:31:36 (permalink)
Very disappointing performance at this price point :(
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 11:50:50 (permalink)
Well originally I was actually considering getting one but I might as well just go sli 660ti and get about the same performance for $400 less. 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 12:40:36 (permalink)
At this point I won't even consider this card for the price/performance ratio. Perhaps in a few months if drivers improve the numbers, and with a little price drop... maybe. But as for now, with my current build in the works and waiting on Haswell anyways, I'm holding out for better alternatives. 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 13:11:48 (permalink)
Im not sure I fully understand what people were expecting out of this card, We were well aware it would not consistantly beat the 690.
 
I mean an average of 15% ( http://www.anandtech.com/...ormance-unveiled ) worse then the 690, for the stability of a single gpu? sounds nice to me
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 13:26:56 (permalink)
Also if you read Toms review he really nails it. For surround two of these in SLI have very littl micro stutter, better min and average FPS then dual 690's.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 13:47:06 (permalink)
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Im not sure I fully understand what people were expecting out of this card, We were well aware it would not consistantly beat the 690.

I mean an average of 15% ( http://www.anandtech.com/...ormance-unveiled ) worse then the 690, for the stability of a single gpu? sounds nice to me

 
Agreed.  People are just ticked that they cost so much.  I just don't get the anger in pricing, it's not like Nvidia isn't out to make money, right?  This card wasn't meant for probably 95 percent of users out there. 
 
It's 15 percent slower than the 690 BUT you can overvolt it and it has 3 times the VRAM and runs in one slot.  Sounds like a 999 card to me.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 13:59:55 (permalink)
Guys it isn't slower then a 690 at high res and in SLI. Two titans beats two 690's. for us that need at least two cards for stupid Huge resolutions titan is a god send.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:14:50 (permalink)
15% slower was from 1600p, I have no doubt this in sli beats 690 quad sli, simply beacuse SLI does not scale to a 4th gpu well at all.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:21:24 (permalink)
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Guys it isn't slower then a 690 at high res and in SLI. Two titans beats two 690's. for us that need at least two cards for stupid Huge resolutions titan is a god send.

What amuses me is you say you have to have it. You don't have to have anything, you are electing to buy these because they can run your games at what 120fps vs 90fps.
 
If you guys have the money for them great but I really don't see the need for one with a single 1440p monitor. 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:21:28 (permalink)
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Guys it isn't slower then a 690 at high res and in SLI. Two titans beats two 690's. for us that need at least two cards for stupid Huge resolutions titan is a god send.

 
I'm with you and Starsmine 100 percent.  A couple of these cards for surround gaming is indeed a Godsend.





 
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:22:43 (permalink)
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Guys it isn't slower then a 690 at high res and in SLI. Two titans beats two 690's. for us that need at least two cards for stupid Huge resolutions titan is a god send.

What amuses me is you say you have to have it. You don't have to have anything, you are electing to buy these because they can run your games at what 120fps vs 90fps.

If you guys have the money for them great but I really don't see the need for one for a single 1440p monitor. 

 
Perhaps he should have said "for us that require two of these cards to maintain decent framerates at stupid huge resolutions"?  I know what he meant, and I agree.





 
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:27:40 (permalink)
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Guys it isn't slower then a 690 at high res and in SLI. Two titans beats two 690's. for us that need at least two cards for stupid Huge resolutions titan is a god send.

What amuses me is you say you have to have it. You don't have to have anything, you are electing to buy these because they can run your games at what 120fps vs 90fps.

If you guys have the money for them great but I really don't see the need for one for a single 1440p monitor. 

Perhaps he should have said "for us that require two of these cards to maintain decent framerates at stupid huge resolutions"?  I know what he meant, and I agree.

I've never done more than 2 1440 monitors so I've never had a real issue when I had 2x 680. But this may not be true for all. But I also never bothered to try and push super high AA or anything like that. Only reason why I'm still considering getting one is for the looks and the fact I have a little extra birthday money. 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:30:27 (permalink)
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Guys it isn't slower then a 690 at high res and in SLI. Two titans beats two 690's. for us that need at least two cards for stupid Huge resolutions titan is a god send.

What amuses me is you say you have to have it. You don't have to have anything, you are electing to buy these because they can run your games at what 120fps vs 90fps.

If you guys have the money for them great but I really don't see the need for one for a single 1440p monitor. 

Perhaps he should have said "for us that require two of these cards to maintain decent framerates at stupid huge resolutions"?  I know what he meant, and I agree.

I've never done more than 2 1440 monitors so I've never had a real issue when I had 2x 680. But this may not be true for all. But I also never bothered to try and push super high AA or anything like that. Only reason why I'm still considering getting one is for the looks and the fact I have a little extra birthday money. 

 
Gotcha.  Again, why someone chooses to go with this card is obviously up to them..heck I think it's great.  I think that Gut's post quoting the above makes sense if people are on the fence and have questions about "worth" since each case will be different.





 
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:37:51 (permalink)
There is no reason for anyone too justify the reason why anyone is getting it.  If they are getting it they can get it. 

I for one is having a toss up between the 7970 x 2 vs Titan x 2.  And once again its my choice and no one else and I'll make up my mind when I've good and well have.
 
The people angry about the price is either A) wanted one and can't afford one B) think Nvidia is ripping people off.  Which is their opinion and thoughts that they can have.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:41:08 (permalink)
Rei86I for one is having a toss up between the 7970 x 2 vs Titan x 2.
Don't you mean 4? 7970s?

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:45:42 (permalink)
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Rei86I for one is having a toss up between the 7970 x 2 vs Titan x 2.
Don't you mean 4? 7970s?


I really don't know.
 
If I get the Titan it would be only two.
 
If I go 7970s it'll be either two or three (Mobo can't support more than three).  However I don't know how well AMD cards scale.  I know for Nvidia three cards is the sweet spot, for AMD ?
 
Also I would WC all of these so I'm taking that price into consideration too.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:51:34 (permalink)
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Rei86I for one is having a toss up between the 7970 x 2 vs Titan x 2.
Don't you mean 4? 7970s?


I really don't know.

If I get the Titan it would be only two.

If I go 7970s it'll be either two or three (Mobo can't support more than three).  However I don't know how well AMD cards scale.  I know for Nvidia three cards is the sweet spot, for AMD ?

Also I would WC all of these so I'm taking that price into consideration too.

 
Right now, they scale to 3 pretty darned nicely...okay REALLY nicely.   4, not so much:)  (It's not terrible or anything but I have found that my system likes 3 the best and I don't seem to get as much as I would like out of the 4th)
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:52:13 (permalink)
Wish they were readily available and I would get one. Oh well guess preorder from newegg. Figure might as well go ahead and future proof instead of sticking with low end cards that need to be upgraded every 1/2 years. 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:52:38 (permalink)
Both scale well to three (mostly because for both parties, the third, even if it doesn raise frame rate, it reduces microstuttering)
 
For me I will stay with my 660ti, works well enough for 1200p
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:52:43 (permalink)
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You guys are right, I apologize - I did not intend to come across so opinionated myself.
I would not have apologized if I made your comment.  It wasn't remotely offensive just because people used their insecurities to imply that anyone critical of their opinion is somehow suppressing it to shut you down.
 
It a graphics card for God's sake, not a family member; I don't understand why people put so much emotion in this hobby, it should be devoid of emotion.
 
Yet there are sensitive people complaining when they hoped for the best (as if they were being gifted for being loyal) all while never bothering to plan for the worst (not affording), and took competition for granted by naively expecting the same price-performance scaling as if there was competition -- not nVidia's problem, the price isn't a rip off, nor is nVidia greedy.   Just entitlement cop-outs, and Titan's price puts them in their place and they don't like it.  Whoop-dee do.
 
I did the math, I knew what to expect and I'm not let down by the reviews; the irony is that I was never planning to purchase Titan, I may never.  What's everyone else's excuse?  We had an entire month to speculate, and it somehow never crossed anyone's mind that the lack of an AMD competitor coupled with the ability to scale beyond GTX690 in SLI would become the biggest hint towards the high price.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 14:57:45 (permalink)
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Wish they were readily available and I would get one. Oh well guess preorder from newegg. Figure might as well go ahead and future proof instead of sticking with low end cards that need to be upgraded every 1/2 years. 

 
I'm sure that in a month or so, that they will be just like the other cards at release.  I agree about the future proofing...this card hits the nail on the head regarding that.
 
Also, thank goodness Lehpron is here.  He always manages to eloquently put into words what I cannot.  Thank you sir.





 
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 15:48:53 (permalink)
I'm nowhere near hardcore like most of you.  For someone with a single 1080p screen (with no immediate or near-term plans to go multimonitor or higher resolution), would it be safe to say the Titan is overkill?  I'm thinking the 680 would be futureproofing my situation already (in terms of soundly playing current games and most released within the next 2 years).  In fact, the 680 would probably do pretty well with a single 1400p monitor for the foreseeable future as well, yea?
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 16:12:47 (permalink)
Tom (Nvidia marketing head) on PCPer Live stated if you're on 1920x1080 a Titan is a dumb purchase.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 16:16:17 (permalink)
Well, if the Marketing head is advising against something, it would be foolhardy, wasteful and, yes, stupid, to do the opposite. ;p
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 16:26:22 (permalink)
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You guys are right, I apologize - I did not intend to come across so opinionated myself.
I would not have apologized if I made your comment.  It wasn't remotely offensive just because people used their insecurities to imply that anyone critical of their opinion is somehow suppressing it to shut you down.

It a graphics card for God's sake, not a family member; I don't understand why people put so much emotion in this hobby, it should be devoid of emotion.

Yet there are sensitive people complaining when they hoped for the best (as if they were being gifted for being loyal) all while never bothering to plan for the worst (not affording), and took competition for granted by naively expecting the same price-performance scaling as if there was competition -- not nVidia's problem, the price isn't a rip off, nor is nVidia greedy.   Just entitlement cop-outs, and Titan's price puts them in their place and they don't like it.  Whoop-dee do.

I did the math, I knew what to expect and I'm not let down by the reviews; the irony is that I was never planning to purchase Titan, I may never.  What's everyone else's excuse?  We had an entire month to speculate, and it somehow never crossed anyone's mind that the lack of an AMD competitor coupled with the ability to scale beyond GTX690 in SLI would become the biggest hint towards the high price.


Sorry, but Nvidia is being greedy and it is overpriced.  That is not being emotional, but it is being realistic.  The 690 came out a year ago, if you want to charge the same price, offer something that performs better than year old tech.  Supply and demand is a wonderful thing, the market will decide if the price is right, but to try to rationalize that $1,000 for this card is reasonable is out of touch.  The real issue which you and many others completely miss is that Titan is not meant to replace anything.  It's a boutique product designed and priced to sell very few units, an enhancement to the existing product line that very few will be able to use.  That is why people are pissed, this is not the start of a new line of products which always garners excitement, but a huge screw you moment by Nvidia.  So you want a better card, ha ha, here it is, pony of a grand sheep.  Personally I could care less, my 690 abuses every game I throw at it, but for those who have been waiting for the next offering, yeah I would be very disappointed. 

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 16:30:56 (permalink)
I'm 5% disappointed relative to it's performance, 15% disappointed relative to it's pricing .. but overall, i'm still ordering one (or two, but that's in future). Yes, for single displays of today including 30" 1600p 690 is better choice, but by rising resolution higher titan catches and at some point beats it. All the other alternatives look like worse choice for planned very high resolutions.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 16:30:58 (permalink)
In addition to the reference clocked and cooled Nvidia GTX Titan, EVGA shed some light on its upcoming GTX Titan SuperClocked and the GTX Titan Hydro Copper. Both will be available as a Signature Edition cards as well.
http://www.fudzilla.com/h...ore-than-one-gtx-titan

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 16:36:01 (permalink)
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cisco0623
You guys are right, I apologize - I did not intend to come across so opinionated myself.
I would not have apologized if I made your comment.  It wasn't remotely offensive just because people used their insecurities to imply that anyone critical of their opinion is somehow suppressing it to shut you down.

It a graphics card for God's sake, not a family member; I don't understand why people put so much emotion in this hobby, it should be devoid of emotion.

Yet there are sensitive people complaining when they hoped for the best (as if they were being gifted for being loyal) all while never bothering to plan for the worst (not affording), and took competition for granted by naively expecting the same price-performance scaling as if there was competition -- not nVidia's problem, the price isn't a rip off, nor is nVidia greedy.   Just entitlement cop-outs, and Titan's price puts them in their place and they don't like it.  Whoop-dee do.

I did the math, I knew what to expect and I'm not let down by the reviews; the irony is that I was never planning to purchase Titan, I may never.  What's everyone else's excuse?  We had an entire month to speculate, and it somehow never crossed anyone's mind that the lack of an AMD competitor coupled with the ability to scale beyond GTX690 in SLI would become the biggest hint towards the high price.


Sorry, but Nvidia is being greedy and it is overpriced.  That is not being emotional, but it is being realistic.  The 690 came out a year ago, if you want to charge the same price, offer something that performs better than year old tech.  Supply and demand is a wonderful thing, the market will decide if the price is right, but to try to rationalize that $1,000 for this card is reasonable is out of touch.  The real issue which you and many others completely miss is that Titan is not meant to replace anything.  It's a boutique product designed and priced to sell very few units, an enhancement to the existing product line that very few will be able to use.  That is why people are pissed, this is not the start of a new line of products which always garners excitement, but a huge screw you moment by Nvidia.  So you want a better card, ha ha, here it is, pony of a grand sheep.  Personally I could care less, my 690 abuses every game I throw at it, but for those who have been waiting for the next offering, yeah I would be very disappointed. 

 
You can cry yourself to sleep trying to figure out how people can "rationalize" purchasing this.  In the mean time, a lot of people will be enjoying the Titan even though you don't "approve".  
 
I'm not going to go into a dissertation on how out of touch your post is, so have a great night.





 
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 16:45:45 (permalink)
I honestly don't know how the 690 lasts
this is definitely a better purchase
 
lower power consumption for the same price - with almost the same Performance - without SLI and runs cooler
 
and definitely scales better than a 690
 
 


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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/21 16:46:24 (permalink)
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Guys it isn't slower then a 690 at high res and in SLI. Two titans beats two 690's. for us that need at least two cards for stupid Huge resolutions titan is a god send.

What amuses me is you say you have to have it. You don't have to have anything, you are electing to buy these because they can run your games at what 120fps vs 90fps.

If you guys have the money for them great but I really don't see the need for one with a single 1440p monitor. 

 
Dude no way, I have 3 30 inch screens. 

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