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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 07:45:16 (permalink)
anyone look at Nvidia's own website?
http://www.geforce.com/ha...-gtx-titan/performance


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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 07:53:49 (permalink)
Source: http://www.anandtech.com/...rce-gtx-titan-part-1/2

" Moving on, with a $999 launch price NVIDIA’s competition will be rather limited. The GTX 690 is essentially a companion product; NVIDIA’s customers can either get the most powerful single-GPU card NVIDIA offers in a blower design, or an alternative design composed of two lesser GPUs in SLI, in a front and rear exhausting design. The GTX 690 will be the faster card, but at a higher TDP and with the general drawbacks of SLI. On the other hand Titan will be the more consistent card, the lower TDP card, the easier to cool card, but also the slower card. Meanwhile though it’s not a singular product, the GTX 680 SLI will also be another option, offering higher performance, higher TDP, more noise, and a cheaper price tag of around $900.

As for AMD, with their fastest single-GPU video card being the 7970 GHz Edition, offering performance closer to the GTX 680 than Titan, Titan essentially sits in a class of its own on the single-GPU front. AMD’s competition for Titan will be the 7970GE in CrossFire, and then the officially unofficial 7990 family, composed of the air cooled PowerColor 7990, and the closed loop water cooled Asus Ares II. But with NVIDIA keeping GTX 690 around, these are probably closer competitors to the multi-GPU 690 than they are the single-GPU Titan."

My 4x classifieds still blows everything outside the water. Maxwell will be the updater to wait for, atleast for me.

 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 08:02:40 (permalink)
 NVIDIA hasn’t gone into depth for launch quantities, but they did specifically shoot down the 10,000 card rumor; this won’t be a limited run product and we don’t have any reason at this time to believe this will be much different from the GTX 690’s launch (tight at first, but available and increasingly plentiful).
 
 
Im interested in the compute numbers - which won't be avail til thursday
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 08:24:10 (permalink)
Whose curious about GPU Boost 2.0. Does that work at a software level or it is limited the GTX Titan. Could it be implemented into current 600 series cards. 
 
 
 


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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 08:24:12 (permalink)
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 NVIDIA hasn’t gone into depth for launch quantities, but they did specifically shoot down the 10,000 card rumor; this won’t be a limited run product and we don’t have any reason at this time to believe this will be much different from the GTX 690’s launch (tight at first, but available and increasingly plentiful).


Im interested in the compute numbers - which won't be avail til thursday

 
In that PCPer video you have to turn on double precision for this card which downclocks it way down to something like 700mhz.
 
Also that 10k figure that some reported sounded off.  I'm sure they have plenty of defected K20s that can pass as a Titan atm.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 08:30:31 (permalink)
actually it keeps it at stock
you have to read the anandtech review
 
which would still make it a compute monster
 
 


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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 08:42:57 (permalink)
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actually it keeps it at stock
you have to read the anandtech review

which would still make it a compute monster



 
I'll take his word for that its downclocked when you enter the Double Precision mode of the card, ATM.  
Not only that his interview with Tom on Thursday will answer pretty much all the question and I bet everyone else.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 08:48:08 (permalink)
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actually it keeps it at stock
you have to read the anandtech review

which would still make it a compute monster




I'll take his word for that its downclocked when you enter the Double Precision mode of the card, ATM.  
Not only that his interview with Tom on Thursday will answer pretty much all the question and I bet everyone else.

 
That's what I heard him say as well, that it is down-clocked a good bit when entering DP mode.  I bet it still would be a great FAH card though...when we weren't using it to play our favorite game;)





 
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 09:02:42 (permalink)
it's still more than 8x more powerful in DP mode than a 680
1/24(680) vs 1/3(titan)
and you have dynamic parallelism and hyper-Q enabled in titan
 


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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 09:08:05 (permalink)
I am interested in the double precision performance of this card. I like the Titan having FP64 compute rating that is 1/3 of the FP32 compute rating. This is the first Geforce compute card that is not restricted for FP64 performance from NVIDIA. One of the DC projects I like to run, Milkyway@home requires FP64 and can greatly benefit from a card like this. Unfortunately Folding@home does not use FP64 that I know of so this project would benefit mainly from the added FP32 performance specification.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 09:34:34 (permalink)
Man at 1k this makes choosing between two 690's and two titan's really hard.  What would you guys do?  At least with Titan I could eventually go three way SLI but this is kinda expensive.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 09:35:40 (permalink)
Well, that's it for me, I am done with Nvidia, so long, it was a good run while it lasted.
 
If they cant even have the respect to launch titan at 700 or even 750, then all I see is a middle finger to their buyers on the graphics side between promoting the 660 to 680 and now finally bringing the respin of what was supposed to be the 680 at literally twice the price it should be.
 
Sell the stock, pull out the soap and wash then hands, then hand some vaseline to the customers, and grab some popcorn. Nvidia has officially proved themselves a joke and that's all there is to it.
 
lack of amd competition or not, 999 for this card is well beyond just greed. I think I am gonna send an email to nvidia asking about their quote of how they learned their lesson about pricing with the gtx 280 and why it only took one architecture for them to forget.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 09:35:49 (permalink)
Cant wait for the benches. If this card makes more sense price and performance wise over 2x680/2x7970 then I'm sold, but not until spring.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 09:44:08 (permalink)
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Well, that's it for me, I am done with Nvidia, so long, it was a good run while it lasted.

If they cant even have the respect to launch titan at 700 or even 750, then all I see is a middle finger to their buyers on the graphics side between promoting the 660 to 680 and now finally bringing the respin of what was supposed to be the 680 at literally twice the price it should be.

Sell the stock, pull out the soap and wash then hands, then hand some vaseline to the customers, and grab some popcorn. Nvidia has officially proved themselves a joke and that's all there is to it.

lack of amd competition or not, 999 for this card is well beyond just greed. I think I am gonna send an email to nvidia asking about their quote of how they learned their lesson about pricing with the gtx 280 and why it only took one architecture for them to forget.

 
You can also look at it as a cheap version of their 3k pro level cards.  I dunno, if it really is 2x as fast as a 680 the price is justified, but hard to swallow....  yes...... very hard.  I'll get two, see how it goes with my res, post reviews in here and what not.  Also, I am betting these are FASTER then the 7 series (except a dual GPU card) which will help them hold value for a year or two at least.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 09:53:01 (permalink)
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Well, that's it for me, I am done with Nvidia, so long, it was a good run while it lasted.

If they cant even have the respect to launch titan at 700 or even 750, then all I see is a middle finger to their buyers on the graphics side between promoting the 660 to 680 and now finally bringing the respin of what was supposed to be the 680 at literally twice the price it should be.

Sell the stock, pull out the soap and wash then hands, then hand some vaseline to the customers, and grab some popcorn. Nvidia has officially proved themselves a joke and that's all there is to it.

lack of amd competition or not, 999 for this card is well beyond just greed. I think I am gonna send an email to nvidia asking about their quote of how they learned their lesson about pricing with the gtx 280 and why it only took one architecture for them to forget.


You can also look at it as a cheap version of their 3k pro level cards.  I dunno, if it really is 2x as fast as a 680 the price is justified, but hard to swallow....  yes...... very hard.  I'll get two, see how it goes with my res, post reviews in here and what not.  Also, I am betting these are FASTER then the 7 series (except a dual GPU card) which will help them hold value for a year or two at least.

 
Your missing the point, you are basing pricing for titan on the 680 and artificially inflated price by nvidia. Gk100 was supposed to be the 680 but since the 104 out did 7970, the chose to jack up the price and drop off on a top chip until gk100 issues were totally resolved or they respin it. The latter has happened here. The respin of what was supposed to be the 680 is here. Rather than honoring their word of we learned our lesson no more top tier single chip graphics cards over 649, the decided that if people would be willing to pay 450-500 for a mid range chip whether with or without knowledge, then they might as well get ready to pump their rear for another 450-500 when they launch what was actually supposed to be the 680 finally.
 
Reguardless, nvidia has lost loads of credit and respect over this entire kepler line. This is just the final blow that they chose to deal before maxwell.
 
Anyone interested in paying $450 for a GM106 chip on the gt740 promoted to gtx780 in a year or two? That is where this is headed unless customers push back mark my words.
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 10:01:41 (permalink)
At least Nvidia is not going broke - ie record profits in slow years
 
at the current rate AMD won't last long unless they start turning it around this year
 
selling Nvidia stock?.. you should be buying it
the stock is undervalued and with dividends it pays handsomely
 
AMD should know you don't make money having small margins
 
undercutting your competitor with a similar product or slightly less powerful is not always great 
it's like buying cars - some people just buy for performance - and will always pay more 
like how many here have a ferrari or a lamborgini? - yet they sell them and make $$$
 
unless AMD can make real inroads with a vastly superior product they can't win
 


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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 10:20:31 (permalink)
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  1. Clearly you took competition for granted such that you expect nVidia to sell something at a lower price as if it was always supposed, to be regardless of competition-- but that isn't how it works.  There is no direct AMD competitor to Titan, what incentive should they lower price?  For us, are we that special?  No, because it isn't about us, none of us deserved or were entitled to Titan.  
  2. Is it worth suggesting you quit taking it personal using words like "respect" and "honor" when talking about business practices?  Just because you were loyal to them doesn't mean they were loyal to you, nothing is valued above the dollar and businesses don't operate or communicate with such emotions; speak with your wallet, that is all they listen to.  

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 10:49:08 (permalink)
So is EVGA going to make the Titan?  Because when you look at the Titan on the nvidia website.. On the top right where it says "Where to Buy" it only lists computer makers i.e. ibuypower - cyberpowerpc etc.....
 
**update**
NM, I just read this on Nvidia's new release..
"The GeForce GTX TITAN GPU will be available starting on February 25, 2013 from NVIDIA's add-in card partners, including ASUS and EVGA in North America, and additional partners, including Colorful, Galaxy, Gigabyte, INNO 3D, MSI, Palit and Zotac outside the US. Partner participation will vary by region. Pricing is expected to start at $999 USD."
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 10:53:15 (permalink)
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So is EVGA going to make the Titan?  Because when you look at the Titan on the nvidia website.. On the top right where it says "Where to Buy" it only lists computer makers i.e. ibuypower - cyberpowerpc etc.....

 
EVGA and Asus will be the only partners to sell the cards (here in US) without it IN a system from what I have read.  The cards will all be made by Nvidia....maybe later we will see some non-vanilla cards but not anytime soon.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 10:58:37 (permalink)
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Jediexpress

So is EVGA going to make the Titan?  Because when you look at the Titan on the nvidia website.. On the top right where it says "Where to Buy" it only lists computer makers i.e. ibuypower - cyberpowerpc etc.....


EVGA and Asus will be the only partners to sell the cards (here in US) without it IN a system from what I have read.  The cards will all be made by Nvidia....maybe later we will see some non-vanilla cards but not anytime soon.

Thanks for the reply.. After posting, I read what you stated on Nvidia's new release.. I updated my reply.
Nvidia's News Release on the Titan -> http://nvidianews.nvidia....by-World-s-Fa-925.aspx
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 11:01:15 (permalink)
So any guesstimates on when EVGA will release their verison?

 
 
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 11:17:14 (permalink)
"NVIDIA hasn’t gone into depth for launch quantities, but they did specifically shoot down the 10,000 card rumor; this won’t be a limited run product and we don’t have any reason at this time to believe this will be much different from the GTX 690’s launch (tight at first, but available and increasingly plentiful)."
http://www.anandtech.com/...rce-gtx-titan-part-1/2
 
So don't worry about nVidia running out. There will be plenty more available.
 
Anandtech also mentioned that this card will feature modified versions down the road from EVGA/ASUS, like watercooling and OCed versions. Can't wait to see the price tag on the EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Classified Hydro Copper.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 11:22:56 (permalink)
Wow, I guess we will see a classified! I wonder if they will use that extra 8 pin connector? 
 
I would love a hydro copper version, but it will probably be $1300+. I could build an entire PC that can play most any games about 10fps lower than the titan at 1200p at that price lol
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 11:23:33 (permalink)
I like this card for a couple of reasons:
1.)  Extra VRAM (6GB is excessive but I find myself needing more and more with 7680x1440)
2.)  It appears that we can add voltage?  (someone correct me)
3.)  OC is tied to temp making waterblock even MORE useful
4.)  40 percent more powerful than my 680's
 5.)  Might be a crunching monster for us.

Price is a bit high but hey, we pay for new things when there is no competition.  It would be AWESOME for AMD to release a counter to this but I know things aren't that great in camp RED right now.  Hopefully in the future they will be so we, the consumer will win.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 11:26:03 (permalink)
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Man at 1k this makes choosing between two 690's and two titan's really hard.  What would you guys do?  At least with Titan I could eventually go three way SLI but this is kinda expensive.


You need to take something into consideration before asking that question:  Performance of 1 Nvidia GTX Titan is almost equivalent or a little higher than a 690.  One could argue they provide almost the same level of performance, but the Titan is only using "1 GPU."  That being said, could you expect Nvidia to have the price tag of the GTX Titan less than a 690.  No.  That's part of some peoples' QQ about this graphic card.  $1000 price tag is ridiculous for a single gpu monster.  It seems ridiculous, but you're not paying for how many gpus are on the PCB.  You're paying for it's performance.  That being said, you're limited with two 690s in a way.  With 3-way SLI titans, totaling above $3000.00 plus, is equivalent to almost having 3 690s in your rig in SLI.
 
Personally, I'd wait it out.  Demand would probably be high at first when the goods hit the shelf, but you don't know the qwarks of this new graphic card until 3rd party benches do reviews and videos about it.
 
I'd still consider the Asus Ares II over it since that ROG videocard is still dominating the 690 in just about every game.  It's true that the Nvidia GTX Titan is in a class of its own, but the Ares II can still give it some competition, "theoretically."  AMD would have to adapt, and make a similar GPU of their own that does the same performance of a Tahti XT x2 equivalent on a single GPU like the Titan.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 11:26:03 (permalink)
I'm very interested to see EVGA's variant(s) of the Titan. I'm curious what their stance will be on over volting and if they will offer models that have the volts unlocked further with more power phases, etc.
 
It sounds from some of the previews like this thing could be a very good over clocker. One site got theirs to 1176 MHz on air. If I can throw one of these in my water cooled system and actually near 1.2 GHz or more, then it may actually be worth $1K. With the memory system on this thing, it just begs to push 3 monitor resolutions. Oh I can't wait to see the real reviews, and mainly the overclocked reviews.

 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 11:28:55 (permalink)
Can't wait to see the performance / power-efficiency ratio of this guy!

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 11:40:33 (permalink)
yup perfect actually. if there going for a $1k price launch, once AMD brings there next card out im switching. im still on 3x580 and havent found a damn thing worth me switching to yet. 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 11:53:56 (permalink)
$1000 aint bad for a card of limited availability.  It is for the most hardcore enthusiasts.  The price will just deter me from buying a second one.......maybe.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/19 12:00:52 (permalink)
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Man at 1k this makes choosing between two 690's and two titan's really hard.  What would you guys do?  At least with Titan I could eventually go three way SLI but this is kinda expensive.


You need to take something into consideration before asking that question:  Performance of 1 Nvidia GTX Titan is almost equivalent or a little higher than a 690.

 
From the looks of Nvidia's dodgy graphs a GTX690 > GTX Titan.  If you're using a single monitor like solution and you only have a single PCIe slot the 690 is the way to go.  We've seen what a quad set up can do and nothing has changed.  The GTX Titan does not change the values of the 690, 680, 670 and 660Ti.  What it does is slip in between the 690 and 680.
 
Now when it comes to multi monitor solutions however the Titan is the way to go, and with previews stating that its a monster GPGPU card its also another plus to it if you do a lot of computing.  

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