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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/22 08:07:08 (permalink)
I thought the real issue with the 1K bios was the power draw on PCIe#2 cable?

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Well my desk might have a window directly behind it. :-)

But that's on the stock EVGA bios. 450w.

Galax 1kw bios isn't that much higher,

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1405627

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/22 08:39:08 (permalink)
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I thought the real issue with the 1K bios was the power draw on PCIe#2 cable?

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Well my desk might have a window directly behind it. :-)

But that's on the stock EVGA bios. 450w.

Galax 1kw bios isn't that much higher,

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1405627



It can be with some benchmarks and games, but PR only hits about 550w which keeps the 2nd 8 pin below 20 amps.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/22 10:51:23 (permalink)
Talon, what power percent do you set the 1k to? I'll test it out with PR. I am liquid cooled and usually around 45C in games. 

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/22 10:58:55 (permalink)
With PR, it doesn't matter really since it doesn't hit 20 amps at 1100mv. To be safe though with other benches/games, limit to under 48%. It's wonky with the incorrect power readings. 45-46% gets around 550w. This is due to the 1st and 3rd 8pin readings being way too low.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/22 11:30:44 (permalink)
Sweet and I really only want about 500 watts, so I could keep it at 40%

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/22 15:37:33 (permalink)
Alright tested the 1K bios and it lives up to its name, lol.. my best Port Royal score so far.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/71114967 14948
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/22 21:09:27 (permalink)
Yep now I know how folks are hitting 15K in PR....w 3080Ti.....nice...but I personally wont install that BIOS...well maybe .  ;)
 

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/22 23:19:57 (permalink)
12900K All Core OC 5.3P / 4.2E 1.3v + (-.050V offset)
5.4 All Core isnt achievable without wayyy higher vcore (n temps)
Evga 3080Ti FTW3 OC +195 / +1200 (I hit the wall Max Temp 43c) - Ambient Temp 21c
 

 

 

 


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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/23 05:28:21 (permalink)
Very nice! I need to get 3 more points on PR... 
Port Royal
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Here's my TimeSpy.. your CPU destroys my 5900x! 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/23 10:17:08 (permalink)
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Very nice! I need to get 3 more points on PR... 
Port Royal
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Here's my TimeSpy.. your CPU destroys my 5900x! 
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Yes the Alder Lake chip is quite impressive.

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/23 11:07:50 (permalink)
http://www.3dmark.com/pr/1409756

FTW3 Hybrid
+225 core (capped to 1031mV)
+1500memory
Only pulling about 420W with plug#2 running at like 160W. I imagine the Galax Bios would help me a decent amount because of the plug imbalance?

I think my CPU is holding me back though from making it much further. It doesn't hold PBO clocks and constantly drops to 3700MHz.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/23 11:27:46 (permalink)
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http://www.3dmark.com/pr/1409756

FTW3 Hybrid
+225 core (capped to 1031mV)
+1500memory
Only pulling about 420W with plug#2 running at like 160W. I imagine the Galax Bios would help me a decent amount because of the plug imbalance?

I think my CPU is holding me back though from making it much further. It does hold PBO clocks and constantly drops to 3700MHz.

Which CPU?  Switch to manual OC'n -- I've got my 5800x locked to 4.8 all core 24/7


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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/23 13:22:42 (permalink)
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It's just a turd. I put a lot of effort into it on over clocking and it's got one core that is just really bad and drags down the performance of the whole thing. Unfortunately, it's the core that Windows identifies as the best core too.

About 4400MHz is the all core limit on it before power use/voltage need skyrockets. It's also got garbage for infinity fabric overclocking.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/23 14:10:15 (permalink)
All core OC is not the best choice for 5000 series. Per core curve optimizer is the way to go but does take time to dial in.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/23 14:24:31 (permalink)
Yeah, I have a per core setup that's fully optimized. All core testing just made it really clear where the problem was. For reference, I can run +125MHz and like 4 of the 6 cores will do it with like -25 to -30 in the CO but then the worst core is like -8 and the next one is like -14. I couldn't get +150MHz to work at all and I got better performance at +75MHz anyway as the temps start climbing going past there. It hits a wall at 4500 on that one core. Also, I can unlink the infinity fabric and run 4000CL16 no problem on my memory too but 3733 is the limit on 1:1.

No other way to put it, I lost the lottery on the 5600X, for the core and infinity fabric.

Planning on getting an upgrade when ever they launch the 3D v-cache stuff.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/24 09:48:01 (permalink)
Got a run in this AM with fairly cool ambient temps....finally got over that 15K hurdle, really their is the standard tweaks most of us carry out, but the cooler the ambient room temp the  more likely for higher OC's, I even forgot to jack up my fans on all my Rads.
 

 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/24 11:24:18 (permalink)
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All core OC is not the best choice for 5000 series. Per core curve optimizer is the way to go but does take time to dial in.

I prefer to do my clocking in the bios making it OS agnostic. 4.8Ghz all core at 1.25v.  Software control of the clocks adds a little overhead plus it relies on the software itself. Using the bios removes the software equation entirely. 


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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/24 11:26:21 (permalink)
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5600X
It's just a turd. I put a lot of effort into it on over clocking and it's got one core that is just really bad and drags down the performance of the whole thing. Unfortunately, it's the core that Windows identifies as the best core too.

About 4400MHz is the all core limit on it before power use/voltage need skyrockets. It's also got garbage for infinity fabric overclocking.

I had a similar experience in a customer build with a 5600x -- PBO +200 was acceptable for their needs however and it performed just fine.  In my testing with it I was surprised at just how little the 5600x could be tweaked.  It was so much different than the 5800x that I suspect a difference of hardware on chip, perhaps cap arrangement. 


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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/24 17:57:10 (permalink)
More than likely, if a chiplet can do +200 reliably but doesn't have all 8 functional cores, it would probably be destined for a 5900X? Only chips that failed to reach that are going into 5600X. Same for the 5800X, if it's good enough to do +200, it's probably going into a 5950X.

At least, until the market no longer supports the higher profit margin high end part.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/25 12:54:49 (permalink)
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Thought I would post my first discovery with 3080 Ti FTW3 HC setup. The card is limited to 400W (104 of the available 113% power slider) since my EVGA 850 GA psu seems to be maxed out. Can achieve 99.2% stability at +1200/+150 according to 3DMark, but any demand spikes in Forza Horizon 5 tank the fps (unlocked drops from 125 to 105 and vsyncd drops from 60 to 50). The 10700k is pulling 250W during LinPack stress test, so the 9 fans and D5 pump are pulling more power than expected I guess. Ordered an EVGA 1000W P2 while it's on sale.



Thanks for posting this. I have a HC 3080ti too and haven't OCed it yet.  I did the PrecisionX tool and it gave me +120 (Clock) and +200 (Mem), but I know that's rubbish. So I am just looking for a safe OC, not trying to break records here....but I feel I am leaving a lot of performance on the table. Any tips or recommendations? 
 
 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/25 16:57:43 (permalink)
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Thought I would post my first discovery with 3080 Ti FTW3 HC setup. The card is limited to 400W (104 of the available 113% power slider) since my EVGA 850 GA psu seems to be maxed out. Can achieve 99.2% stability at +1200/+150 according to 3DMark, but any demand spikes in Forza Horizon 5 tank the fps (unlocked drops from 125 to 105 and vsyncd drops from 60 to 50). The 10700k is pulling 250W during LinPack stress test, so the 9 fans and D5 pump are pulling more power than expected I guess. Ordered an EVGA 1000W P2 while it's on sale.



Thanks for posting this. I have a HC 3080ti too and haven't OCed it yet.  I did the PrecisionX tool and it gave me +120 (Clock) and +200 (Mem), but I know that's rubbish. So I am just looking for a safe OC, not trying to break records here....but I feel I am leaving a lot of performance on the table. Any tips or recommendations? 
 
 




What kind of tips are you looking for?
For 24/7 safe Gaming OC you should be fine with +105 to +120 Core / +575 - +725 Memory (no added voltage).
 
Its a HC Card so would assume you want to "push" it a little....many can achieve +180 to +210 Core / Memory +1100 to + 1300 (may reuire some added voltage, mine did .....these latter OC's are for benching...not 24/7 Gaming OC's....

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/25 17:43:44 (permalink)
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Thought I would post my first discovery with 3080 Ti FTW3 HC setup. The card is limited to 400W (104 of the available 113% power slider) since my EVGA 850 GA psu seems to be maxed out. Can achieve 99.2% stability at +1200/+150 according to 3DMark, but any demand spikes in Forza Horizon 5 tank the fps (unlocked drops from 125 to 105 and vsyncd drops from 60 to 50). The 10700k is pulling 250W during LinPack stress test, so the 9 fans and D5 pump are pulling more power than expected I guess. Ordered an EVGA 1000W P2 while it's on sale.



Thanks for posting this. I have a HC 3080ti too and haven't OCed it yet.  I did the PrecisionX tool and it gave me +120 (Clock) and +200 (Mem), but I know that's rubbish. So I am just looking for a safe OC, not trying to break records here....but I feel I am leaving a lot of performance on the table. Any tips or recommendations? 
 
 




What kind of tips are you looking for?
For 24/7 safe Gaming OC you should be fine with +105 to +120 Core / +575 - +725 Memory (no added voltage).
 
Its a HC Card so would assume you want to "push" it a little....many can achieve +180 to +210 Core / Memory +1100 to + 1300 (may reuire some added voltage, mine did .....these latter OC's are for benching...not 24/7 Gaming OC's....


Yeah it’s for 24/7 gaming. That’s very helpful! Thank you! I assume moving it to 113% power is OK? I won’t touch the voltage though. :)
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/25 19:07:15 (permalink)
You can move slider to max no problem.....
So for a "pushing it OC" (example from my 12900K / 3080Ti)
 
Power Slider: to Max
Core Voltage %: +66
Core Clock +210
Memory Clock +1275
 
Timespy: 22,118
Graphics 22,227 CPU 21,522
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/25792262
 
Port Royal: 15,018
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1411187
 
For 24/7 Gaming and still a decent OC, simply try working your way up from:
Power Slider Max
No added voltage
Core Clock 75 / 90 / 105 Memory 450 / 550 / 650
 
For gaming AAA titles some do not like too much OC (even if the OC settings perform fine in benchmarks n stress testing).
Max you could try:
Power Slider Max
Core +135 / Memory +775
 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/25 19:33:59 (permalink)
Thanks man! That’s helpful! Yeah I had it at 120+ for core and 200+ for mem because of precision, so 135 seems reasonable!
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/25 19:40:13 (permalink)
^^^^ Your Memory can go easily +600 without any issues at all....
 
Leave Core +120 and move Memory to +600.....gains will be far better than +135 Core vs +120 Core and Memory at +200....Memory OC's far far higher than Core
 

I've done some semi scientific experiments with ReBar forced on with profile inspector on water cooled 3090 cards in Port Royal. I used the same GPU clock, same VRAM clocks, same voltages, same power limits, and the same coolant temps. It seems that when you force ReBar through Nvidia Profile Inspector, you gain 200-300 points on average in single card 3090 scores.


 
^^^^ Seems this is another "tweak" some are using to inflate their scores...I havent tried it myself, likely wont bother, I leave rebar disable (BIOS)
The real keys to OC'ing and higher benchmark scores is stopping as many services from running in the background as possible, including Anti Virus software, Hardware Monitoring software....even Windows Explorer.
Enabling High Performance in both Windows (CPU) and nvcp (GPU)....ensure you disable Gsync also in nvcp....AND cold cold cold temps....the colder the ambient temp the higher your card will boost and sustain Average Boosts throughout.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/26 02:53:22 (permalink)
I`m not in for the galax bios yet. 
i just see the problem with the 450 watt bios from evga. 
i can clearly proof my card is throttles from 409 watt nothing i can do about it. 
 
whole system max power at the wall is 510 watt inkl lots of ssds and a 5800x with msi unify and 32gb ram. 
System without gpu is around 80 watt idle of which is 34 watt gpu. as my 5800x has to be in idle to stay below 510w in any given benchmark.
 
so why is evga doing nothing about this problem. 
PCI-E 1,2,3 are all over the place. Balance is really a mess. 


This is such a big community here. but EVGA doesnt do anything about it. 
if i buy a 3080ti with a premium above a FE Card then at least it should run at his specified secs. 

i had a 3080 ftw3 and it was just able do be locked at 450watt and could run a 2.26ghz this way. So it should be possible fo 3080ti bios as well to go around 450watt and not 10% below. 
risking warranty with a 1k bios is not the right way.
 
what do u think.
 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/26 07:17:02 (permalink)
From what I’ve gathered, that Power imbalance isn’t solvable without a hardware refresh. Pretty much all cards this generation, except the kingpin, have this issue. Rumor has it that the third 8-pin wasn’t in the initial design, but who knows ?
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/26 07:20:10 (permalink)
For bench mark score chasing, not being able to hit the 450W limit is a bit frustrating, but honestly, you get very little extra performance going above like 350W. You can run at the stock 1965MHz at like 300W and 350W can get you up around 2040MHz.

The balance thing though, go mine on the card and it's even worse. My card runs at like 240W, and plug #2 does like 140W of it. The other two plugs and the pcie slot are all down around 30W each.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/26 07:47:10 (permalink)
It's been shown by multiple people now that the card actually does reach 450w or even a bit more. GPUZ/HWINFO underreport the total power draw. This has been covered over and over.

And I've shown multiple times including just a few posts back in this thread that the difference in benchmark scores between the stock bios and the 1kw Galax is very small. 300-400 pts in PR.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocking Results 2022/01/26 08:51:57 (permalink)
I know many have been calling out the power imbalance across the 3 connectors. Mathematically speaking, they're not equal. But is that a real problem, like on the verge of blowing up a fuse or something? If using the split connector/cable, then that CAN be a problem.
 
Assuming both gpuz and hwinfo64 are reporting close to accurate, I'm yet to sense any issue at all.
 
I paired mine with a rocket lake cpu so it's fairly normal for my total power usage reaching the upper 600s off the wall (gpu on stock 450W bios) on certain games and benchmarks. Would have been lower if I paired it with my ryzen cpu.


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