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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/28 09:27:24
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I have a 850w with my 3070 and its just fine.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/28 18:49:05
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What kinda OCs have people achieved with this
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/04/29 07:57:11
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When flashing BIOS 1 (Normal) and BIOS 2 (OC) does the BIOS switch need to be moved or it will flash automatically to the appropriate version. Thanks, RJR
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/04/29 14:30:39
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On my 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming hybrid I had been running +1000 mem (10502mhz in X1, 1312.7mhz in GPUZ), -200 gpu, 70 power when mining for a while with the 450 bios, then would switch back to 0 gpu, 118 power when gaming (leaving mem +1000). I noticed some FPS issues when gaming and seems to be whenever memory is above +700 my FPS tanks. Doing furmark 1440p benches at +700/800/900/1000 in X1 fps and memory controller load get worse with each run and it seems around 800-850 perfcap changes from power to vrel so maybe just hitting limitations of the memory. Assume this would be the same with the default bios as well but thought it was interesting. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/29 16:43:00
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Got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra today. X1 installed a new bios and firmware.
Do I now have the same Normal bios that is listed here?
Is the current OC Bios just have a more aggressive fan curve?
And the downloadable OC bios here will raise the Power limit to 450w?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/01 05:56:45
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Capt_Caveman
Got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra today. X1 installed a new bios and firmware.
Do I now have the same Normal bios that is listed here?
Is the current OC Bios just have a more aggressive fan curve?
And the downloadable OC bios here will raise the Power limit to 450w?
To check the BIO's Version you can use TechPowerUp GPU-Z to check what version your updated to and compare. The watts well after two updates from P1 I am still only hitting like 375ish I do not know but I thought a thread around here had a link to a bios you can download. I personally think leaving as is should be ok. If I need that many watts on my GPU to run a game like 3 fps more I have a small problem in my head.:)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/01 06:21:12
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Increasing power limit will give you diminishing returns to your frame rate. Unless you want a higher overclock resulting only 1-2 percent performance uplift, l strongly recommend using regular power limit. Specially considering the scarcity of 3080.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/01 07:52:49
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Increasing power limit will give you diminishing returns to your frame rate. Unless you want a higher overclock resulting only 1-2 percent performance uplift, l strongly recommend using regular power limit. Specially considering the scarcity of 3080.
Well there is a difference so you might as well use it. 3080 FTW3 operating a consistent 2,085-2,115mhz (+90 core, +1000 mem) with the 450w limit will be about 5-10% faster than a stock 3080 FE. I'll take it because it's stable and gets you about half way to a stock 3090 FE. Not as great as a 2080 Ti which can get +15-20% over a stock card, but we're talking 260w vs. ~375w on those. What's particularly nice about the 450W bios is that it doesn't ride the power limit at 2,100mhz, even with 4K VRR it uses 350-425w with a medium-high gaming load (RDR2), so it can clock consistently. Of course, the stock 3080 FTW3 out of the box has a 380w 100% limit and higher boost clocks, so any OC is not as dramatic.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/01 10:52:12
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Capt_Caveman
Got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra today. X1 installed a new bios and firmware.
Do I now have the same Normal bios that is listed here?
Is the current OC Bios just have a more aggressive fan curve?
And the downloadable OC bios here will raise the Power limit to 450w?
To check the BIO's Version you can use TechPowerUp GPU-Z to check what version your updated to and compare.
The watts well after two updates from P1 I am still only hitting like 375ish I do not know but I thought a thread around here had a link to a bios you can download.
I personally think leaving as is should be ok. If I need that many watts on my GPU to run a game like 3 fps more I have a small problem in my head.:)
Thanks! Got it figured out. The Normal Bios that downloaded when I installed the card is from 3/5/21 and max 400w. The Normal Download listed here is from 3/23/21 and max 450w. Switched to the stock OC bios and to get resizable bar enabled, Precision offered to update the Bios. I then installed the OC bios here and it's 3/23/21 and max 450w. Wonder if there is a 400w OC bios with Resizable bar I can download. It would provide a fan profile to have fans running all the time.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/02 07:36:04
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Flashed this BIOS and can't seem to get my card to pull more than 400W after increasing the power target to 118%. Any idea what's going on here?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/02 17:32:01
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Flashed this BIOS and can't seem to get my card to pull more than 400W after increasing the power target to 118%. Any idea what's going on here?
Open GPU-Z and run some Port Royal and Time Spy Benchmarks....go back afterwards and check GPU-Z and look at Board Power Draw....PCI Slot Power Draw and all 3 PCI-E plug power draws.....your likely having the Power Balancing issue that a number of us have...is PCI-E Plug #3 showing max power draw about 1/2 of #1 & #2 Plugs?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/02 18:08:12
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I think yall fail to realize the XOC bios's are for xtreme cooling. You're not gonna get any extra performance from a normal cooling solution and power.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/02 18:29:11
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kindofabuzz
I think yall fail to realize the XOC bios's are for xtreme cooling. You're not gonna get any extra performance from a normal cooling solution and power.
Not sure about others on here but I have a large Custom Loop.... 3080FTW3 Ultra maxes out at 40c looping any benchmark and I"m power limited.....to 390w w 450w BIOS. Its a Power Balancing issue and I see on the 3090 XOC Bios Thread there is a response regarding some email address to send this issue to......I know a few others with WC Loops having same issue, the whole point of our Custom Loops is so we dont see thermal throttling obviously....
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/03 19:58:06
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I see on the XOC BIOS 3090 thread there is an offer from Evga to replace the Cards with the Power Balancing issue with a new Card.
XOC 450w Bios Card can only draw 395w ...appears to be gimped PCI-E #3 power plug. I know there are many others with the same.
I went all thru this Thread and dont see the same offer......can anyone ...a Mod perhaps (Sajin you're always up to sped) or Jacob please let me know if this same offer is in place for the 3080FTW3 Ultras that also have this exact same Power Balancing issue as the 3090's ......
Really curious if this is being recognized like the 3090's ?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/04 01:27:35
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Are the default bios versions in the bottom of this post still up to date? im experiencing an issue after OCing and want to reflash to stock bios.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/05 08:47:08
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Going to give this a test!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/07 07:58:41
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On my 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming hybrid I had been running +1000 mem (10502mhz in X1, 1312.7mhz in GPUZ), -200 gpu, 70 power when mining for a while with the 450 bios, then would switch back to 0 gpu, 118 power when gaming (leaving mem +1000).
I noticed some FPS issues when gaming and seems to be whenever memory is above +700 my FPS tanks. Doing furmark 1440p benches at +700/800/900/1000 in X1 fps and memory controller load get worse with each run and it seems around 800-850 perfcap changes from power to vrel so maybe just hitting limitations of the memory. Assume this would be the same with the default bios as well but thought it was interesting.
It's because ECC is kicking in. Gddr6x counter to previous gen's has ECC which instead of giving you normal artefacts is just trying to correct errors due to too high overclock. Your overclock is never stable above 700 hence why you see frames drop. Easy way to test is using heaven benchmark and just simply pause on a scene, now increase the memory until you notice the fps drop, that is when the ECC kicks in.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/08 12:35:05
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ddog661
What kinda OCs have people achieved with this
None different from stock Bios. People think if they install the XoC bios they will get a better overclock. You won't. they are made for eXtreme overclockers that use super cooling and power. Your average user will see no difference.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/08 15:04:20
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Capt_Caveman
Got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra today. X1 installed a new bios and firmware.
How and where did you get your 3080 FTW3 Ultra card? Was it by waiting in the EVGA queue or did you purchase it from a retailer? If EVGA queue, how long were you waiting until you got a notification that it was available to purchase?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/08 15:06:34
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Are the default bios versions in the bottom of this post still up to date? im experiencing an issue after OCing and want to reflash to stock bios.
Did you get an answer to this yet? Did you reach out to EVGA support to find out from them?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/08 16:52:48
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I am having an issue here. I am trying to flash the correct BIOS, but when I press y, the screen turns off, and never turns back on. I have to hard reset the computer minutes later. When I reset, the graphics drivers are completely uninstalled and the screen is at 30 hz. I have to reinstall the graphics drivers to get things back to normal.
I am using the correct version and I am on the OC switch for the fan curve
What should I do to troubleshoot? I check GPUz and my max power is still 400
Thanks!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/09 13:32:27
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best I can get is 426, peak 432, 416 on run 2 and 408 by run 3, FTW3 Hybrid. what ever the chip will do , it will do. 400 is the max mine will pull on a stable overclock , The chip will balance and throttle itself
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/10 20:28:58
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Looking out the window dreaming of the day I will be with my 3080. Maybe next year?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/13 23:02:16
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rjbarker
I see on the XOC BIOS 3090 thread there is an offer from Evga to replace the Cards with the Power Balancing issue with a new Card.
XOC 450w Bios Card can only draw 395w ...appears to be gimped PCI-E #3 power plug. I know there are many others with the same.
I went all thru this Thread and dont see the same offer......can anyone ...a Mod perhaps (Sajin you're always up to sped) or Jacob please let me know if this same offer is in place for the 3080FTW3 Ultras that also have this exact same Power Balancing issue as the 3090's ......
Really curious if this is being recognized like the 3090's ?
I told Jacob long time ago we 3080 FTWs owners are suffering from the same power balancing issue and he responded like "not that we know off...." so good luck my dude. You can go ahead and continue the crusade, I gave up long ago trying to convince them... And I even twitted him GPUz, afterburner etc screenshots showing the 3rd pin pulling almost no power and the card hitting the power limiter at 430w and never or barely ever reaching 450w... I hope they listen to you, I gave up, but hey if they say something, let us know.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/14 18:49:01
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kindofabuzz
I think yall fail to realize the XOC bios's are for xtreme cooling. You're not gonna get any extra performance from a normal cooling solution and power.
Yeah that's true to a certain extent. When I got my 3080 FTW3 Hybrid back in Dec, I basically put the PC outside in sub 0C and was able to clock 2265mhz passing Timespy, locked at 1.1 volts. Power use was tapping the 450w limit but generally staying under it. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16605955 I guess this qualifies me a not average user, since this still puts me at #31 on the leaderboard for 3080 TS GPU score. kindofabuzz
ddog661
What kinda OCs have people achieved with this
None different from stock Bios. People think if they install the XoC bios they will get a better overclock. You won't. they are made for eXtreme overclockers that use super cooling and power. Your average user will see no difference.
With the hybrid and a good fan setup the card can comfortably use 400w+ at mid 50C's and maintain clocks around 2,100 mhz gaming with a fairly heavy load, so there is a benefit and I'm happy to have it. I'd definitely be riding the power limit with the 400w limit and maybe dropping clock vs. 450w, but it doesn't make the chip any more stable at OC. If you lock in at 1.1V with ambient temps sure you can get stable at a couple 15mhz bins higher and use the higher power more, but that's not a good idea for chip health.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/05/14 19:07:48
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/14 18:51:09
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donnie123
jaredo
On my 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming hybrid I had been running +1000 mem (10502mhz in X1, 1312.7mhz in GPUZ), -200 gpu, 70 power when mining for a while with the 450 bios, then would switch back to 0 gpu, 118 power when gaming (leaving mem +1000).
I noticed some FPS issues when gaming and seems to be whenever memory is above +700 my FPS tanks. Doing furmark 1440p benches at +700/800/900/1000 in X1 fps and memory controller load get worse with each run and it seems around 800-850 perfcap changes from power to vrel so maybe just hitting limitations of the memory. Assume this would be the same with the default bios as well but thought it was interesting.
It's because ECC is kicking in. Gddr6x counter to previous gen's has ECC which instead of giving you normal artefacts is just trying to correct errors due to too high overclock. Your overclock is never stable above 700 hence why you see frames drop.
Easy way to test is using heaven benchmark and just simply pause on a scene, now increase the memory until you notice the fps drop, that is when the ECC kicks in.
Yep. He should also be using HWiNFO to monitor his vram temps.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/18 12:50:28
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Well this certainly looks good
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/24 00:20:29
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Hello, i tried to install the new Vbios on my 3080 FTW3 Ultra, but the update failed at 10%. after rebooting the screen demains black. I had to switch to OC bios to get the image again. i made sur to download the right file for my GPU model, but don't know what happened. I canno't update vbios thru PX1, when i clic on update the sowftware disapears without doing anything. Any help please? how can i recover the first normal bios if i have no image. Thank you EDIT: It's okay, i managed to reinstall de base normal bios and the image back again.
post edited by SamirHSX - 2021/05/24 02:12:12
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/24 18:59:45
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Some help but not easy to understand
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