Huntercyril

shaolinn

mobsters

stroker425
I wonder, import taxes?

Does not explain why EVGA is asking ~100e more then local retailer from same card.......Or are import taxes applied only for EVGA

The base price is around 30 euro lower on the US store than it is on EU.  They are probably receiving the bulk of their cards at their HQ in California and then sending them by air freight to their EU warehouse which already seem to be very limited numbers in the first place. That alone already increases said cost. Currently just to secure air shipping they are paying a high premium thanks to COVID aftermath. Maybe the shipping cost from wherever their cards are being assembled is just more expensive to the EU. My guess is they are just adding the shipping cost  to the base price and VAT is just the law us EU citizens have to deal with. As for why retailers have them up for cheaper. The big retailers make bulk orders and are most likely paying bellow the list price as they have more negotiating power due to bulk orders. They are also probably covering the shipping themselves through their shipping partners they already have contracts with, which does not increase their cost. Just my guess anyway.

Someone living in France who had a 2080 Super and used the Step Up Program confirmed on this forum that he paid something like 115€ and some change, and considering the price of the 2080 Super he calculated that the total cost of the 3080 was 830€ for the FTW3 Ultra in France, with VAT included. 

So it's definitely a mistake in pricing on EU Store where prices DO include in fact the 21% VAT from Netherland (where EVGA's warehouses are based and where products are shipped to customers in the EU).
 
That should also remove any fears for EU customers (myself included). 

Huntercyril

shaolinn

Huntercyril

shaolinn

mobsters

stroker425
I wonder, import taxes?

Does not explain why EVGA is asking ~100e more then local retailer from same card.......Or are import taxes applied only for EVGA

The base price is around 30 euro lower on the US store than it is on EU.  They are probably receiving the bulk of their cards at their HQ in California and then sending them by air freight to their EU warehouse which already seem to be very limited numbers in the first place. That alone already increases said cost. Currently just to secure air shipping they are paying a high premium thanks to COVID aftermath. Maybe the shipping cost from wherever their cards are being assembled is just more expensive to the EU. My guess is they are just adding the shipping cost  to the base price and VAT is just the law us EU citizens have to deal with. As for why retailers have them up for cheaper. The big retailers make bulk orders and are most likely paying bellow the list price as they have more negotiating power due to bulk orders. They are also probably covering the shipping themselves through their shipping partners they already have contracts with, which does not increase their cost. Just my guess anyway.

Someone living in France who had a 2080 Super and used the Step Up Program confirmed on this forum that he paid something like 115€ and some change, and considering the price of the 2080 Super he calculated that the total cost of the 3080 was 830€ for the FTW3 Ultra in France, with VAT included. 

So it's definitely a mistake in pricing on EU Store where prices DO include in fact the 21% VAT from Netherland (where EVGA's warehouses are based and where products are shipped to customers in the EU).
 
That should also remove any fears for EU customers (myself included). 

Hope you are right if its actually confirmed by them that this is the case I may cancel my preorder from the retailer. As the cheapest price for the ftw3 ultra is currently 945 for German retailers, which I find odd if that were the case. I did watch their stream yesterday and they did mention if you want a card etailers is the way to go as they are working with them so everyone gets their hands on a card faster.

I did cancel my order for a XC3 for 840€ on an etailer (France) last weekend, and that was before I knew about the VAT issue in EVGA EU Store but I trusted and still trust EVGA. They are really here for the customers that's not a gimmick. XC3 is now around 920 / 940 on this mentioned etailer, and FTW3 Ultra is around 1000€ in France in various (r)etailers while, like I said, it should be at 830€ on EVGA EU (for France). 
 
I managed to get approximately the same results with X% VAT of the country you are in EU : you take the price in dollar, stick X% VAT, convert to euros.
For France : price in US for FTW3 Ultra is 810$ + 20% VAT (France VAT %), that gives 972$, converted to euros that gives around 836 euros.
The guy I mentioned above said it was around 830€ with his calculations of going from 2080 Super to 3080 FTW3 Ultra. If you give some tolerance for stocks exchange dollar / euros etc, this 6€ difference is within the acceptable margin of error and does indeed include tax (being less than 1% which with currency conversion can happen on big transactions depending the rate of exchange).
Same thing for 21% Netherland VAT, except that this time the difference is only 3€ from the estimated price to the price shown on the store.

As for where / to shipping, I tried to seek out informations about EVGA Factories and as of 2012 the products were mainly tested assembled etc in Taiwan, whereas US HQ seemed mostly focused on administrative stuff. That means to my understanding, to get to EU, it wouldn't go through US but directly to EU from Asia. That is, if things haven't changed since 2012.

Titan696
its nothing about VAT

paulmcpazzi

Titan696
its nothing about VAT

This post was created the day after the 3080 was launched (18/09/2020), the prices on eu.evga.com had double taxation and it was adjusted a few days later.
 
I was lucky enough to get a 3080 on Amazon at MRSP, the EVGA queue is not advancing at all, I pressed the notify button on launch day in the morning and they still haven't sent the email (not that I'm going to buy a second 3080 from EVGA at this point, I just haven't unsubscribed because I'm curious to see how long it'll take).