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Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU? As an example, the FTW3 ULTRA is almost $200 more expensive: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA = $809.99 (exc VAT) evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3897-KR RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA = €839.99 (exc VAT) eu.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3897-KR (links are not clickable because they keep removing them when I submit the post) $809.99 ~= €682.91 €839.99 ~= $996.05 For comparison, NVIDIA's FE is sold for $699.00 in US (exc VAT) and €699.00 in Germany or €719.0 France, VAT included.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/18 02:11:44
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Is it even selling here in the EU yet? I listed to Notify by mail for every model and got nothing till now. You visit the EVGA EU site and they are only on Notify and are not available in the Step-Up program either... 
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/18 02:21:20
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Is it even selling here in the EU yet?
The EU "shop" doesn't seem to have an "Add to cart" anymore, they can only be purchased from third-party shops. That particular model can be preordered on caseking.de for almost €900 (German VAT included, 19%), which is around $1,067!
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/18 02:27:08
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Because we have higher tax rate ~20% which is shown on purchase, US taxates after purchase ~10%.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/18 02:30:05
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Because we have higher tax rate ~20% which is shown on purchase, US taxates after purchase ~10%.
The prices that I listed are VAT excluded, this is merely a USD to EUR conversion, where the price in EUR is almost $200 more expensive.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/18 02:33:20
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Cypeq
Because we have higher tax rate ~20% which is shown on purchase, US taxates after purchase ~10%.
The prices that I listed are VAT excluded, this is merely a USD to EUR conversion, where the price in EUR is is almost $200 more expensive.
you are correct sorry.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/18 03:08:48
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Is it even selling here in the EU yet?
The EU "shop" doesn't seem to have an "Add to cart" anymore, they can only be purchased from third-party shops.
That particular model can be preordered on caseking.de for almost €900 (German VAT included, 19%), which is around $1,067!
Hah, 2 years of folding and collecting EVGA Bucks and then you have to buy the card elsewhere 
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/18 03:15:02
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I need this in the EVGA EU shop not on a 3rd party retailer to avail of the Step-Up... C'mon EVGA what's the hold up? Did you sell out to the US bots and nothing left for us? 
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/18 14:22:37
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I need this in the EVGA EU shop not on a 3rd party retailer to avail of the Step-Up...
You don't need to buy a GPU from their shop in order to be eligible for step-up. You can register any card by entering the serial number and uploading a proof of purchase.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/19 10:19:54
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I agree with you. I've seen Amazon.fr/de sell the FTW3 for €820/845 with tax (for 15 minutes), in my regular Dutch shops their are €1000+...
Also the XC3 black/gaming are €799 while I preordered an MSI Gaming X Trio for €779. I really want the FTW3 (with a different color than red), but I'm not going to pay €220 premium over the MSI card that got 3 years of warranty also.
I really hope that availability and prices will stabilize in the next 4 months so I can sell my MSI 3080 and hop over to a FTW3 (3080ti maybe even) without the stupid red accents on the card ends, that would be perfect.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/19 11:50:30
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They were for sale on the EU store, but there have been some issues they're looking into. That might be why there is no buy option right this moment.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/19 12:03:49
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If you think that's bad, look at Australia/New Zealand retailer pricing.
They are bad.
TUF 3080 (non OC) is 1399 AUD ($1020 USD)
Gaming X Trio is 1469 AUD ($1071 USD)
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/19 12:05:30
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I agree with you. I've seen Amazon.fr/de sell the FTW3 for €820/845 with tax (for 15 minutes), in my regular Dutch shops their are €1000+...
Also the XC3 black/gaming are €799 while I preordered an MSI Gaming X Trio for €779. I really want the FTW3 (with a different color than red), but I'm not going to pay €220 premium over the MSI card that got 3 years of warranty also.
I really hope that availability and prices will stabilize in the next 4 months so I can sell my MSI 3080 and hop over to a FTW3 (3080ti maybe even) without the stupid red accents on the card ends, that would be perfect.
They already said they will be giving people a replacement for the red accent for free, it's removable. Technically you could also 3D print the part if you have a printer in any color you desire. As for 3080ti that is pure rumors, if rnda 2 is just on par with a 3070 I doubt you will be seeing said fabled card until next year christmas season.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/19 13:45:43
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Bei CaseKing they had an order button for the EVGA RTX 3080 Black Sc for 699€! Hopefully will come for that price soon!
After i ordered it 744€ now listed for 805€!
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/19 13:51:22
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Bei CaseKing they had an order button for the EVGA RTX 3080 Black Sc for 699€! Hopefully will come for that price soon!
After i ordered it 744€ now listed for 805€!
Yeh was going to order there too but since the ftw 3 ultra is 899 there and delivery isn't certain going to take my chances on evga first.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/19 14:01:58
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Was lucky for that price it will take 3-4 weeks no illusions there ! But i ordered my EVGA 980ti (then step up to 1070!) there and very happy with the 1070 card!(just getting to slow for newer games sadly!)
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/19 15:35:26
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Was lucky for that price it will take 3-4 weeks no illusions there ! But i ordered my EVGA 980ti (then step up to 1070!) there and very happy with the 1070 card!(just getting to slow for newer games sadly!)
Enjoy once it arrives. 
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/19 16:09:39
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besides VAT we pay also import taxes (from non EU country),in my country the total is near 40%
when i bought my 2070 it was cheaper to buy it from EVGA ebay(ebay can ship to EU) and pay import taxes and VAT.if i remember correct it was around 100$ cheaper.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/24 01:38:53
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The EU site has been updated, the prices have not changed. The XC3 Black is sold at €739 + VAT, which is around €886 in Germany. The Founders Edition is sold from the NVIDIA Store at €699 (VAT included). JayzTwoCents reviewed the XC3 Ultra and mentioned that is much as fast as the FE, only a tiny bit quieter.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/24 01:57:39
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/24 02:06:03
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Just seems there's issues in product pages informations. If you take the US price, add 21% VAT, then convert the final price to EU, you'll find the same price that is indicated on the EU Store (with the mention " excluded VAT "). So either the price is VAT included already and adjusted to which country you live in, or, most likely, need to reduce the price to remove the 21% VAT then apply the VAT % at checkout.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/24 02:11:31
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Bei CaseKing they had an order button for the EVGA RTX 3080 Black Sc for 699€! Hopefully will come for that price soon!
After i ordered it 744€ now listed for 805€!
Yeh was going to order there too but since the ftw 3 ultra is 899 there and delivery isn't certain going to take my chances on evga first.
It was how much!??!?! wow they're selling it for 949€ right now which is 1014€ for Greece! They're adding 50€ per day for real huh?
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/24 02:13:38
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They're saying something broke and backfired yesterday while they were trying to improve the site, maybe they did a backup and the EU site is back to the way it was, so double VAT and will have to get reviewed again, and then fixed, and they stock needs to come to EU...
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/24 02:16:04
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Bei CaseKing they had an order button for the EVGA RTX 3080 Black Sc for 699€! Hopefully will come for that price soon!
After i ordered it 744€ now listed for 805€!
Yeh was going to order there too but since the ftw 3 ultra is 899 there and delivery isn't certain going to take my chances on evga first.
It was how much!??!?!
wow they're selling it for 949€ right now which is 1014€ for Greece!
They're adding 50€ per day for real huh?
In France some of the high end are shy to 1000 if not above. That's the retailers prices though, they are free to adjust their prices and they seem to enjoy increasing the price, still doesn't mean it's an indication to the EVGA EU Store's real prices. As far as I'm concerned they don't increase on US Stores so it won't increase on EU Store, and 840 for FTW3 Ultra is with 21% VAT. I remember Amazon had a preorder for the FTW3 for 810€ for a small moment, so, that would fit indeed with the current price on the EU Store, just the VAT thing to figure out.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/24 02:18:45
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They're saying something broke and backfired yesterday while they were trying to improve the site, maybe they did a backup and the EU site is back to the way it was, so double VAT and will have to get reviewed again, and then fixed, and they stock needs to come to EU...
That might be likely I didn't even paid attention to this ! That would make sense to, about why prices in the EU Store were back at 3 / 4 in the morning, because I don't think there's many people working at night (might be who knows) and that would fit to about 6 / 7pm PST (which is the timezone Jacob talk about in his tweets meaning EVGA might be based primarily in PST timezone).
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/24 02:33:17
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Well words don't seem to help. Maybe pictures?:  That would be another brands price for a 305mm 320w 3080 OC (incl. backplate). MwSt is German for VAT. This item has been bought for presentational purposes only and will be canceled as soon as this mixup on your site has been resolved of course. 
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/24 21:11:59
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I up the thread to get more visibility.
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/25 08:59:42
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I wonder, import taxes?
Does not explain why EVGA is asking ~100e more then local retailer for same card.......Or are import taxes applied only for EVGA 
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Re: Why the 30xx series is so expensive in EU?
2020/09/25 09:19:25
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I wonder, import taxes?
Does not explain why EVGA is asking ~100e more then local retailer from same card.......Or are import taxes applied only for EVGA
The base price is around 30 euro lower on the US store than it is on EU. They are probably receiving the bulk of their cards at their HQ in California and then sending them by air freight to their EU warehouse which already seem to be very limited numbers in the first place. That alone already increases said cost. Currently just to secure air shipping they are paying a high premium thanks to COVID aftermath. Maybe the shipping cost from wherever their cards are being assembled is just more expensive to the EU. My guess is they are just adding the shipping cost to the base price and VAT is just the law us EU citizens have to deal with. As for why retailers have them up for cheaper. The big retailers make bulk orders and are most likely paying bellow the list price as they have more negotiating power due to bulk orders. They are also probably covering the shipping themselves through their shipping partners they already have contracts with, which does not increase their cost. Just my guess anyway.
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