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Prices have been relatively stable and I haven't used this black edition for beans. I am wondering if selling it off and paying the difference to upgrade to a 300A chip is actually worth it in the long run. The 280W constraint sucks for a card this powerful :( I think you can get this card up to 310W via phoenix or palit bios; but that's it. I had no clue about 'factory OC' when I made my purchase.
post edited by lumbist - 2019/11/02 11:32:00
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/02 14:00:31
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☄ Helpfulby lumbist 2019/11/02 19:04:27
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/02 17:19:58
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☄ Helpfulby lumbist 2019/11/02 19:04:19
For a couple of FPS... no, not worth it at all. Going for a much higher card overall would be much better. You wouldn’t gain enough going from a non-a to an a chip.
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/02 19:03:12
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This program is for people who are not happy with the product the bought
I'm pretty sure my card doesn't qualify. Or at least it didn't when I registered it in February.
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/03 06:00:41
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This program is for people who are not happy with the product the bought
I'm pretty sure my card doesn't qualify. Or at least it didn't when I registered it in February.
If you're out of the 90 day window, you're pretty much out of luck plus as stated already and not a huge difference at all from a 300 to a 300A unless you're looking for every inch of a point in benchmarking. For gaming, it's all the same. I personally have a '300' chip on my 2080 Ti Black and it has been fine.
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/03 13:17:46
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Ah, for sure. Thanks for the feedback guys :)
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/03 14:25:51
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If you're just gaming probably not. If you want to push the card hard yes.
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/15 13:40:12
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I have a 2080 Ti Black, so I believe I have the '300' version.
I just happened to notice this thread, and was wondering if anyone could give me an idea of just what kind of average fps increase we're even talking about between the two versions. @the_Scarlet_one 's mention of "a couple of FPS" of course has a variable significance depending on what framerate one is starting from, but if the greatest increase expected, even at ~60 fps, is literally only 2 or 3 fps, I would agree that there is no reason to worry about it for gaming.
I'm assuming the maximum increase in framerate would be about 5%, then (e.g. 55 fps to 57.75 fps)?
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/15 16:42:29
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Flonkam
I have a 2080 Ti Black, so I believe I have the '300' version.
I just happened to notice this thread, and was wondering if anyone could give me an idea of just what kind of average fps increase we're even talking about between the two versions. @the_Scarlet_one 's mention of "a couple of FPS" of course has a variable significance depending on what framerate one is starting from, but if the greatest increase expected, even at ~60 fps, is literally only 2 or 3 fps, I would agree that there is no reason to worry about it for gaming.
I'm assuming the maximum increase in framerate would be about 5%, then (e.g. 55 fps to 57.75 fps)?
It’s hard to quantify in frames per second as to what could be gained since there are so many variables. You could gain potentially 50-75Mhz on the core clock provided you have the cooling headroom to allow for the higher clock speed and higher temps that also come with running a higher power budget. Having said that, no it would not be worth it at all if all you do is game. That added clock speed would translate to virtually no noticeable performance gain when playing games. It would only be measurable in benchmarks for a few more points on the score.
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/15 17:00:11
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Well what mhz is the card running now? If were talking 1950 or lower mhz and one can get 2160mhz?? Prob still not worth the price difference.. cause I'm sure people ain't gona want to touch anything near retail on a used card.
Plus no point in water cooling if one is power limited that hard.
I'd suffocate and sell it fast personally.
These manufacturers need to mention power limits in the description.. maybe they did but seems like alot of people had no idea they were buying such a card.. got drawn in with a cheap price and now are stuck with it.
I'd say go back to sleep and forget about all this.. go play some games and have fun.
Next time come and ask us what's worth the bucks.. but it's always the top card with less limits. :/
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/16 11:33:54
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AHowes
got drawn in with a cheap-ER price and now are stuck with it.
Fixed that for ya. 
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/16 11:38:34
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It’s hard to quantify in frames per second as to what could be gained since there are so many variables...
Thanks for the reply! I know that it isn't possible to state a precise framerate difference, I was just referring to something like the adjusted average of the deltas for a variety of recent AAA games. But you made it clear that any framerate increase isn't worth worrying about--and certainly not for the price.
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/19 17:08:21
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Flonkam
I have a 2080 Ti Black, so I believe I have the '300' version.
I just happened to notice this thread, and was wondering if anyone could give me an idea of just what kind of average fps increase we're even talking about between the two versions...
lumbist
Prices have been relatively stable and I haven't used this black edition for beans. I am wondering if selling it off and paying the difference to upgrade to a 300A chip is actually worth it in the long run...
My Loque Ghost ITX build with a 2080 Ti Black (dual fan)powered by a Ryzen 3700x in SOTTR. Running at 112% power target. GPU core iirc was around 2040MHz according to what I glimpse at HWinfo log and i don't remember the card power consumption for the run... but my non a chip card got:  vs my 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra on a dual 480mm x 60mm open loop, Ryzen 3900x, and iirc the GPU was at 36C, coolant was 27c-28c ish with +80 offset, and ran 2115Mhz core sucking down >360W  The long and short of it is Sajin said it first and best. Gaming, don't bother. For the sake of overclocking for sport... well... depends on how you feel about it.
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/19 17:56:33
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I just ran it and got 125 average.. but at 2560x1440 rez on a ultra wide screen (3440x1440). Only thing different from your test other then my intel setup with i7 9900k at 5.2ghz all 8 cores and 2080ti kingpin at 2205 is I'm on a newer nvidia driver, 441.12. 2nd run at 2560x1440 and I get 127 for average fps. Ran again this time at 3440x1440 res and its 104. First test showed 99% gpu bound and the last one 100% bound.. your shows 91%. CPU clock limiting?
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/20 02:19:33
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ASUS use 300A chip even on Turbo model and Dual. That's cheapest model with turbine.
I'm not sure how big is difference... Probably in some cases even no difference at all.
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Re: Is it worth replacing a 300 chip with a 300A?
2019/11/20 06:45:49
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rchiwawa
The long and short of it is Sajin said it first and best. Gaming, don't bother. For the sake of overclocking for sport... well... depends on how you feel about it.
AHowes
I just ran it and got 125 average.. but at 2560x1440 rez on a ultra wide screen (3440x1440)...
Thanks for posting that data, guys! That seems as conclusive as it gets.
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