trawetSluaP
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Hi all,
I've noticed the 1080Ti SC Black Edition is available to step-up to from the FE I currently have. Firstly, with pricing the Step-Up instructions it says I just have to pay the difference in RRP. I actually got my FE on release day and paid more for it than EVGA are currently charging for the 1080Ti SC Black version. Does this mean I can essentially do it for free?
Secondly, is the SC Black version a reference card as I wish to put my current block on it!
Thanks for any info,
Paul
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:50 AM
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Yes, the prices are essentially the same, so they will be nearly an exchange program.
As for reference, it really depends on fhe waterblock you have. You wiuld need to give that information so that it can be determined if the block you have covers the dvi port. The SC black has a dvi port, and fpunxers does not, so if your block specifically fits the founders, ot may not be compatible with the card unfortunately.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
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Scarlet-Tech
Yes, the prices are essentially the same, so they will be nearly an exchange program.
As for reference, it really depends on fhe waterblock you have. You wiuld need to give that information so that it can be determined if the block you have covers the dvi port. The SC black has a dvi port, and fpunxers does not, so if your block specifically fits the founders, ot may not be compatible with the card unfortunately.
Hi sorry should've included that info. I have the Titan Xp waterblock that is compatible with the 1080Ti. This one: https://www.overclockers....l-plexi-wc-9bx-ek.html
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:57 AM
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Scarlet-Tech
Yes, the prices are essentially the same, so they will be nearly an exchange program.
As for reference, it really depends on fhe waterblock you have. You wiuld need to give that information so that it can be determined if the block you have covers the dvi port. The SC black has a dvi port, and fpunxers does not, so if your block specifically fits the founders, ot may not be compatible with the card unfortunately.
Hi sorry should've included that info. I have the Titan Xp waterblock that is compatible with the 1080Ti. This one: https://www.overclockers....l-plexi-wc-9bx-ek.html
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:03 AM
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As far as I know, that one should workas far as I understand. I would suggest looking at the colling configurator to verify it fits.
Www.coolingconfigurator.com
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:09 AM
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As far as I know, that one should workas far as I understand. I would suggest looking at the colling configurator to verify it fits.
Www.coolingconfigurator.com
Ok sweet, it does. Would you recommend it as an (essentially) free upgrade or is there gonna be no difference under water?
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:19 AM
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If you want native DVI-D, I sure would. If not, I wouldn't want the downtime personally.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:22 AM
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I would only do it if your card doesn't overclock very well. If your card overclocks above average you could be downgrading yourself.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:48 AM
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I would only do it if your card doesn't overclock very well. If your card overclocks above average you could be downgrading yourself.
I can't even get it stable at 2000MHz, just crashes over and over. Has quite bad coilwhine too so it might be worthwhile after all!
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:53 AM
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It could be worth it to give it a try. Just be aware that it isnt a guarantee that it will be better, just a chance.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 1:00 PM
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I am stepping up to the 1080ti SC Black edition myself and hope to get it at the end of this coming week. The SC card should run cooler and quieter than an FE card and the card's clocks are higher.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 1:04 PM
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I am stepping up to the 1080ti SC Black edition myself and hope to get it at the end of this coming week. The SC card should run cooler and quieter than an FE card and the card's clocks are higher.
Gpu boost 3.0 will run most cards near the same clocks, only the base/boost from the factory will actually change. The cooler wont be a problem for the OP, as he isnt keeping the icx cooler on the card.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 1:05 PM
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Right I've done the request and the calculator says that the balance is -41 Euros so hopefully it'll be completely free and then it was worth it either way! I got the message that the 1080Ti SC Black Edition is out of stock so I've been placed in a queue but it's in stock on the EU website... Hmmm...
post edited by trawetSluaP - Saturday, May 20, 2017 1:19 PM
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:31 PM
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trawetSluaP
Right I've done the request and the calculator says that the balance is -41 Euros so hopefully it'll be completely free and then it was worth it either way!
I got the message that the 1080Ti SC Black Edition is out of stock so I've been placed in a queue but it's in stock on the EU website... Hmmm...
The US and EU stores have different stocks, so it is normal. About the upgrade from FE to SC Black: The PCBs are mostly the same (i think the only difference is the dvi and the security fuse). The advantage of the SC would be the increase in the guaranteed base clock and better cooler. Since you are not going to use the SC cooler and your FE is probably clocking higher than the base/boost clock of the FE, I would say this is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade. The only reason to do the upgrade is the coilwine if it is really hurting you. You also get the chance to get a better overclocking card, but always keep in mind that you can get the same, better or worse with the next card.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 10:04 PM
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trawetSluaP
Right I've done the request and the calculator says that the balance is -41 Euros so hopefully it'll be completely free and then it was worth it either way!
I got the message that the 1080Ti SC Black Edition is out of stock so I've been placed in a queue but it's in stock on the EU website... Hmmm...
The US and EU stores have different stocks, so it is normal.
About the upgrade from FE to SC Black: The PCBs are mostly the same (i think the only difference is the dvi and the security fuse). The advantage of the SC would be the increase in the guaranteed base clock and better cooler. Since you are not going to use the SC cooler and your FE is probably clocking higher than the base/boost clock of the FE, I would say this is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade.
The only reason to do the upgrade is the coilwine if it is really hurting you. You also get the chance to get a better overclocking card, but always keep in mind that you can get the same, better or worse with the next card.
The black doesn't have a security fuse... http://www.evga.com/artic...a-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Saturday, May 20, 2017 10:49 PM
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trawetSluaP
Right I've done the request and the calculator says that the balance is -41 Euros so hopefully it'll be completely free and then it was worth it either way!
I got the message that the 1080Ti SC Black Edition is out of stock so I've been placed in a queue but it's in stock on the EU website... Hmmm...
The US and EU stores have different stocks, so it is normal.
About the upgrade from FE to SC Black: The PCBs are mostly the same (i think the only difference is the dvi and the security fuse). The advantage of the SC would be the increase in the guaranteed base clock and better cooler. Since you are not going to use the SC cooler and your FE is probably clocking higher than the base/boost clock of the FE, I would say this is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade.
The only reason to do the upgrade is the coilwine if it is really hurting you. You also get the chance to get a better overclocking card, but always keep in mind that you can get the same, better or worse with the next card.
The black doesn't have a security fuse... http://www.evga.com/artic...a-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/
AFAIK, it does. It seems they forgot to update that in the chart. See this, this and this.
post edited by redleader00 - Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:07 PM
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Sunday, May 21, 2017 1:00 AM
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Sajin
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trawetSluaP
Right I've done the request and the calculator says that the balance is -41 Euros so hopefully it'll be completely free and then it was worth it either way!
I got the message that the 1080Ti SC Black Edition is out of stock so I've been placed in a queue but it's in stock on the EU website... Hmmm...
The US and EU stores have different stocks, so it is normal.
About the upgrade from FE to SC Black: The PCBs are mostly the same (i think the only difference is the dvi and the security fuse). The advantage of the SC would be the increase in the guaranteed base clock and better cooler. Since you are not going to use the SC cooler and your FE is probably clocking higher than the base/boost clock of the FE, I would say this is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade.
The only reason to do the upgrade is the coilwine if it is really hurting you. You also get the chance to get a better overclocking card, but always keep in mind that you can get the same, better or worse with the next card.
The black doesn't have a security fuse... http://www.evga.com/artic...a-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/
AFAIK, it does. It seems they forgot to update that in the chart. See this, this and this.
Gonna need to ask about this again just to be 100% sure. EDIT: Just asked EVGATech_MDecker if the black has a safety fuse. His response was it doesn't have a safety fuse.
post edited by Sajin - Sunday, May 21, 2017 1:08 AM
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Sunday, May 21, 2017 1:56 AM
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Security fuses have never been necessary in decades of gpu usage, wouldn't worry about it!
You should expect much better thermals and acoustics with your new card, congrats!
Just entered the que myself to go to a Black TI from a 1080 FTW2 ICX.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Sunday, May 21, 2017 2:42 AM
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Security fuses have never been necessary in decades of gpu usage, wouldn't worry about it!
You should expect much better thermals and acoustics with your new card, congrats!
Just entered the que myself to go to a Black TI from a 1080 FTW2 ICX.
Thermals will stay the same, or extrmely close, as this user is still using a waterblock.. acoustics wouldnt change either.. see post 1, the original post, about using the waterblock for best info on temps and acoustics not being a factor.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:37 AM
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The EVGA 1080 Ti SC Black Edition has ICX Cooling and (White) LED, I have one in my Step-Up Queue.
@trawetSluaP I have the Same Titan X (Pascal) EK Water Block that I my a or may not install on this card.
You should run the Card on Air and run all the normal games and Benchmarks you have for a few days to a week before installing the Water Block.
https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/ show the Titan X (Pascal) as supported for the 1080 Ti SC Black Edition.
But this is what is confusing for me:
EVGATech_LeeM & EVGATech_LeeM
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2636336 and https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2629227
Standard PCB, without any of the exclusive iCX PCB features (with the exception of a safety fuse).
Thought the same, but now MDecker says it does not have it, so we are back at square one again. Guess I won't feel sure until someone shows us an screenshot of the PCB.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:56 AM
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bcavnaugh
The EVGA 1080 Ti SC Black Edition has ICX Cooling and (White) LED, I have one in my Step-Up Queue.
@trawetSluaP I have the Same Titan X (Pascal) EK Water Block that I my a or may not install on this card.
You should run the Card on Air and run all the normal games and Benchmarks you have for a few days to a week before installing the Water Block.
https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/ show the Titan X (Pascal) as supported for the 1080 Ti SC Black Edition.
But this is what is confusing for me:
EVGATech_LeeM & EVGATech_JosephL
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2636336 and https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2629227
Standard PCB, without any of the exclusive iCX PCB features (with the exception of a safety fuse).
Thought the same, but now MDecker says it does not have it, so we are back at square one again. Guess I won't feel sure until someone shows us an screenshot of the PCB.
It is not an issues as long as the EK Titan X (Pascal) WB and Back Plate work.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:45 AM
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Ah didn't notice on water.
My 1080 icx is SUPER loud, are the guys on the TI's seeing lower noise levels !?
I reallllly want to drop some decibels for a better gaming experience, why I decided to upgrade now.
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Re: Questions regarding step-up and the 1080Ti SC Black Edition
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