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Tuesday, August 09, 2016 12:08 AM
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Specs: i5 3570k 8gb ram, ssds etc Having observed latency mon whilst idle it seems to only go up to 100us. When opening an After looking at latency mon whilst idle it seems to only go up to 100us. When opening an application it will spike over 1000us. I have downloaded the beta driver and it seemed to reduce idle dpc issues. My issue is of course the stuttering still in benchmarks/ some games like GTAV but if I leave latency mon on there's no big spikes even against running games. I used nvidias tool to monitor gpu percentage and cpu percentage whilst running Heaven benchmark. I found that the cpu is always at 100% whilst the stuttering comes from the gpu going down from 100%. See this (From running Heaven 4.0 benchmark) http ://imgur.com/9iJBsSg.jpg The dips are when the stutters occur and some are worse than others. Is this still dpc or am I facing another issue here e.g. my i5 3570k is causing me issues ? My timespy benchmark: http ://www.3dmark.com/spy/118908 my cpu score is terrible as well - if I upgraded cpu would the stutter go?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 12:10 AM
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You can't post links until after your 11th post. Put in the link and add spaces in the HTTP to make it stick and others will know what you did.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 12:33 AM
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Done ^ thanks for the advice :)
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 1:00 PM
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If you're seeing your CPU usage at 100% and at the same time you have stuttering in games/benchmarks, then you have a pretty good bottleneck effect going on. Your CPU isn't keeping up with your GPU. You can try overclocking your CPU if you're comfortable with that, or upgrade it. Also what resolution monitor are you running? Higher res monitor (1440 on up) could reduce the bottleneck to some degree.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 1:08 PM
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bdary If you're seeing your CPU usage at 100% and at the same time you have stuttering in games/benchmarks, then you have a pretty good bottleneck effect going on. Your CPU isn't keeping up with your GPU. You can try overclocking your CPU if you're comfortable with that, or upgrade it. Also what resolution monitor are you running? Higher res monitor (1440 on up) could reduce the bottleneck to some degree.
+1 GPU is coming down --- because CPU is not feeding it fast enough. How do you have Nvidia tools set ? Windows 10, power set ? Did you use the clean Boot ? (what is running in background)
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 2:32 PM
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@bdary thanks for the reply.
My cpu is clocked at 4.8ghz on 1.108v. I have a 1440p 60hz monitor and a 144hz 1080. Tried both and the same occurs.
@cool gtx - thanks for the reply
Nvidia inspector gace me the tool to monitor. Ive left all the nvidia options to default.
I will have to return home and edit this reply but I'm on windows 10 with having just updated to anniversary edition
My nvidia drivers were completely removed by ddu and installed. Tried both certified and the beta for dpc issue.
Only applications I know that run in background is steam, battle.net, AVG, malwarebytes.
Can list the full processes in a few hours?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 2:49 PM
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Jackl3 @bdary thanks for the reply.
My cpu is clocked at 4.8ghz on 1.108v. I have a 1440p 60hz monitor and a 144hz 1080. Tried both and the same occurs.
@cool gtx - thanks for the reply
Nvidia inspector gace me the tool to monitor. Ive left all the nvidia options to default.
I will have to return home and edit this reply but I'm on windows 10 with having just updated to anniversary edition
My nvidia drivers were completely removed by ddu and installed. Tried both certified and the beta for dpc issue.
Only applications I know that run in background is steam, battle.net, AVG, malwarebytes.
Can list the full processes in a few hours?
Just list the Top 5 background software in two categories CPU & RAM OC software like MSI AfterBurner or EVGA Precision X, should be uninstalled first, then DDU drivers, then reinstall OC software - for best stability I run DDU, and custom install the EVGA / Nvidia drivers --- Only selecting PhysX and the actual GPU driver, none of the other "stuff" and select clean install. ( I do NOT load GeForce Experience software, Nvidia 3D drivers, Nvidia Sound ) Is your Win 10 a clean install or an upgrade ? Well worth the effort to clean install the OS = stability Do not install the sound drivers if your not pushing sound to monitor / TV - just use your MB /sound card drivers Many issues can appear if you load both Nvidia sound & MB sound driver = Conflicts
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 2:51 PM
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Jackl3
I will have to return home and edit this reply but I'm on windows 10 with having just updated to anniversary edition
My nvidia drivers were completely removed by ddu and installed. Tried both certified and the beta for dpc issue.
Have you run DDU and installed since your upgrade to AE? A new driver got installed with the AE upgrade, and only the driver. It keeps your PhysX. I would also recommend you put all your specs into your signature to include OCs, monitor, OS, etc. It makes it easier for others and you don't have to type it in constantly. Just go to User Control Panel in the upper right and then select Signature on the left side of the page.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 4:14 PM
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Jackl3 Specs: i5 3570k 8gb ram, ssds etc
Having observed latency mon whilst idle it seems to only go up to 100us. When opening an After looking at latency mon whilst idle it seems to only go up to 100us. When opening an application it will spike over 1000us. I have downloaded the beta driver and it seemed to reduce idle dpc issues.
My issue is of course the stuttering still in benchmarks/ some games like GTAV but if I leave latency mon on there's no big spikes even against running games.
I used nvidias tool to monitor gpu percentage and cpu percentage whilst running Heaven benchmark.
I found that the cpu is always at 100% whilst the stuttering comes from the gpu going down from 100%.
See this (From running Heaven 4.0 benchmark) http ://imgur.com/9iJBsSg.jpg
The dips are when the stutters occur and some are worse than others.
Is this still dpc or am I facing another issue here e.g. my i5 3570k is causing me issues ? My timespy benchmark: http ://www.3dmark.com/spy/118908 my cpu score is terrible as well - if I upgraded cpu would the stutter go?
http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmmain.aspx?faqid=59641 (for GTAV stuttering) 100% cpu usage = cpu bottleneck. Not a big surprise seeing as your only running 1080p on your 1080 ftw. Timespy graphics score looks fine.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:47 PM
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Cool GTX Just list the Top 5 background software in two categories CPU & RAM OC software like MSI AfterBurner or EVGA Precision X, should be uninstalled first, then drivers, then reinstall OC software - for best stability
I run DDU, and custom install the EVGA / Nvidia drivers --- Only selecting PhysX and the actual GPU driver, none of the other "stuff" and select clean install. ( I do NOT load GeForce Experience software, Nvidia 3D drivers, Nvidia Sound ) Is your Win 10 a clean install or an upgrade ? Well worth the effort to clean install the OS = stability
Do not install the sound drivers if your not pushing sound to monitor / TV - just use your MB /sound card drivers
Many issues can appear if you load both Nvidia sound & MB sound driver = Conflicts
@Cool GTX - From Processes tab: Assorted by memory: Chrome x5 SQL Server Windows NT - 64bit - x3 Steam Client Bootstrapper Cortana Logitech Gaming Framework Assorted by CPU: SQL Server Windows NT vs Google Chrome System interrupts System Task Manager. Done as you said but still no difference when I tried this method. Win10 is an upgrade - I could try on the weekend to start the process of a clean install. @ CoercionShaman Yes I have ran DDU since the AE update :(. Also thank you I have now updated my sig. @ Thank you for the link I will try this. I have a 1440p monitor as well at 60hz. I have tried this and it is still the same. I keep getting stuttering in Heaven benchmark. @Everyone I have noticed that my overclock left Turbo Mode to auto - I have disabled this to see if it would make any difference - however still getting the issue - A recent bios update did remove my OC profile and I also loaded it back up as I had it saved. Still, no difference but the CPU on all 4 cores are around 50-40% readings this time. Is this driver or am I still looking at another issue e.g. CPU?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:54 PM
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Jackl3 @Cool GTX - From Processes tab: Assorted by memory: Chrome x5 SQL Server Windows NT - 64bit - x3 Steam Client Bootstrapper Cortana Logitech Gaming Framework Assorted by CPU: SQL Server Windows NT vs Google Chrome System interrupts System Task Manager. Done as you said but still no difference when I tried this method. Win10 is an upgrade - I could try on the weekend to start the process of a clean install. @ CoercionShaman Yes I have ran DDU since the AE update :(. Also thank you I have now updated my sig. @ Thank you for the link I will try this. I have a 1440p monitor as well at 60hz. I have tried this and it is still the same. I keep getting stuttering in Heaven benchmark. @Everyone I have noticed that my overclock left Turbo Mode to auto - I have disabled this to see if it would make any difference - however still getting the issue - A recent bios update did remove my OC profile and I also loaded it back up as I had it saved. Still, no difference but the CPU on all 4 cores are around 50-40% readings this time. Is this driver or am I still looking at another issue e.g. CPU?
If your cpu usage is now down to 50% when running heaven maybe the issue you're experiencing is driver related... http://forums.evga.com/90...Resolved-m2275993.aspx
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Stuttering in some games / Heaven benchmark
Wednesday, August 10, 2016 10:37 AM
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Thanks. I will do what you have mentioned in the thread.
If it is a driver issue then I'm not going to be able to resolve this anytime soon :(
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