philipma1957
It is hard to explain on the internet the complexity of the chip on the wafer hash some factor.
The yield on a wafer has some factor.
But I know the issue is that no one is getting enough chips because the foundries do not have enough machine to burn wafers. If you said only nvidia will have access to the foundries available they could burn the chips to meet the demand. But all other companies would not be able to do so.
You simply need more foundries and they are expensive.  The worst thing for capitalism is excess stock/merchandise since it is a big loss.  Ie a 2000 dollar kingpin makes say 400 profit for evga. sell 10 your profit is 4000
10 sitting in a box not selling is 20,000 gross income lost. So most manufacturers prefer small shortages over small overages.  So they tend to undersize. The pandemic change a lot of demand all over the world for all kinds of chips.  So the world needs 150% more chips and does not have the foundries to burn them.
 
The fact that one chip is more complex is not my point.
The fact that there is not enough time in the day to burn all the chips needed due do not enough working foundries is my point. 
 
 

To add fuel to the fire, cryptocurrency is booming, leading to MUCH higher demand then typical

Moxiesan
Is the 3885 just not getting any drops at all over the last few weeks?

I could be wrong, but it's been since around 1/3 or 1/5 for the last drop of the 3885. Somewhere there is info on those drops.
 

nodssco
I has been waiting since December 29 of 2020. I don't know what happening right now.
Sometimes EVGA products appear on Best Buy, why are EVGA members of the official website not receiving benefits? 
I want to know how many people actually got notification from EVGA.  

EVGA and other AIB companies have contracts with Best Buy and other retailers.  These contracts are a normal process of manufacturing products.  EVGA has taken the uncommon approach of diverting a portion of their production to help us get our hands on these cards but they still have to put these contracts first.  How large is our portion of the production? We don't know.  But due to shortages of the of the chips that are made the whole pie is a lot smaller than anticipated.  the smaller the pie, the smaller the piece is that comes to us on these wait lists.   While I would also like to know exact placement of the waitlist EVGA will not let us know.  It is frustrating but this the way things are for every gamer that wants the new top of the line computer.  At least EVGA has taken steps to help us beat the bots, something that most retailers have not done.

CptT95

philipma1957
It is hard to explain on the internet the complexity of the chip on the wafer hash some factor.
The yield on a wafer has some factor.
But I know the issue is that no one is getting enough chips because the foundries do not have enough machine to burn wafers. If you said only nvidia will have access to the foundries available they could burn the chips to meet the demand. But all other companies would not be able to do so.
You simply need more foundries and they are expensive.  The worst thing for capitalism is excess stock/merchandise since it is a big loss.  Ie a 2000 dollar kingpin makes say 400 profit for evga. sell 10 your profit is 4000
10 sitting in a box not selling is 20,000 gross income lost. So most manufacturers prefer small shortages over small overages.  So they tend to undersize. The pandemic change a lot of demand all over the world for all kinds of chips.  So the world needs 150% more chips and does not have the foundries to burn them.
 
The fact that one chip is more complex is not my point.
The fact that there is not enough time in the day to burn all the chips needed due do not enough working foundries is my point. 
 
 

To add fuel to the fire, cryptocurrency is booming, leading to MUCH higher demand then typical

Crypto mining is part of the problem.  This is not the first time.  I could buy cards in 2017.  There is something else going on here.  It is the the big white elephant.  Amazon and Newegg make a lot of money off the secondary market.  Ebay and StockX make most of their money in the secondary market.  If they can make more off of scalpers, why would they put a foot down and stop it.
 
The thing I don't know about EVGA is why they don't make it easy to know where you are in the queue.  I think it's probably it costs too much to commit someone to that.  It may be competitive reasons.  It may be due to their contract obligations, they cannot say.  Probably in that order are my thoughts.  They're still doing more than the rest to get us cards without constantly watching when stock becomes available and hoping to beat the bots.

I've been seeing 3080 ftw/xc evga cards in local shops here in Greece go for 1500eur. What the hell is going on even. Are these stores allowed to just charge whatever they want? There was even a 3070 for 1100eur. Wow.

static.quai

CptT95

philipma1957
It is hard to explain on the internet the complexity of the chip on the wafer hash some factor.
The yield on a wafer has some factor.
But I know the issue is that no one is getting enough chips because the foundries do not have enough machine to burn wafers. If you said only nvidia will have access to the foundries available they could burn the chips to meet the demand. But all other companies would not be able to do so.
You simply need more foundries and they are expensive.  The worst thing for capitalism is excess stock/merchandise since it is a big loss.  Ie a 2000 dollar kingpin makes say 400 profit for evga. sell 10 your profit is 4000
10 sitting in a box not selling is 20,000 gross income lost. So most manufacturers prefer small shortages over small overages.  So they tend to undersize. The pandemic change a lot of demand all over the world for all kinds of chips.  So the world needs 150% more chips and does not have the foundries to burn them.
 
The fact that one chip is more complex is not my point.
The fact that there is not enough time in the day to burn all the chips needed due do not enough working foundries is my point. 
 
 

To add fuel to the fire, cryptocurrency is booming, leading to MUCH higher demand then typical

Crypto mining is part of the problem.  This is not the first time.  I could buy cards in 2017.  There is something else going on here.  It is the the big white elephant.  Amazon and Newegg make a lot of money off the secondary market.  Ebay and StockX make most of their money in the secondary market.  If they can make more off of scalpers, why would they put a foot down and stop it.
 
The thing I don't know about EVGA is why they don't make it easy to know where you are in the queue.  I think it's probably it costs too much to commit someone to that.  It may be competitive reasons.  It may be due to their contract obligations, they cannot say.  Probably in that order are my thoughts.  They're still doing more than the rest to get us cards without constantly watching when stock becomes available and hoping to beat the bots.

 
I agree my pc gamer/miner build  business will go on vacation due to this shortage.  Not that It was a huge business but it was fun and I always had a killer rig or 2 in the house.  This is what I meant by a flaw in capitalism was cursed at for saying it in a few posts back.
 
Capitalism puts profits first (generalization but close enough)
 
So pretend you are 2 years back and efforting to setup  your 3000 series merchandise. You can plan to make 10000 cards 15000 cards 20000 cards.
But you know that to have excess inventory is a killer.
 
10000 cards at 1500 to create and get to customer at 2000 giving you 10,000 x 500 = 5 million profit. you sold them all.  could have sold more but you make 5 million
 
20000 cards at 1500 to create and get to customer at 2000 but you sell 16,000 get stuck with 4,000 many rmas due to badly cut wafers of chips or just poor chip yields 
 
you spent 30,000,000 and got 16,000 x 2000 = 32,000,000 only 32 million so you net 2 million profit.  They have to judge that for every card they build.
 
They get few numbers Guys like me that have a gear back ground and make a few projections.  Guess what every one is favored to under build and be short some cards.
 
Unless a king-pin is only 300 out the door and they sell for 2000. So they guess a bit low as usual know oh if we are short a bit it is cool we won't get stuck gear.
 
Then a lot happened
A) the 3000 series has been really good gear.
B) we are all stuck in homes far more than normal
C) mining is so good that 1000 bucks for a 3060ti makes some $$ sense.
D) the builders like msi, evga, asus, pny etc know they can sell out all the gear
E) the scalpers know they can overcharge
 
No one is protecting the consumer from their habits.
 ie you like to game well pay up.
you want to mine well pay up
you want to fold well pay up.
 
As I said I would do a full Know your customer with evga to get 3 or 4 cards and be done with waiting.
I know I am not going to build my 20+ pc's to sell this year.
I purchased 3 Newegg Shuffle wins and I overpaid on all of them as I wanted warranty protection.
I would have liked to get one or 2  cards from the que here but I can see it is not likely. To happen soon.
 
Heck I am closer to the king pin than most likely any other card because it is the highest marked up card.
 
3998 >>>>>> 12/16/2020 09:51:04 >>>>>> 1/31/2021 7:18:37 PM PT………………….   I think I am 74 on the list. Not mad at anyone more or less tired of the pandemic and typing on keyboards.
 
 

TheTrunks
What date/time was the 3767 first available for the queue?

10/29 at 6 am PT (technically, I think it was 5:59:00 am, but you get the point).  3.5 months later and its queue is almost through 18 hours of timeline.  Woot?!?

static.quai
Hate to be the bad news bringer, but you're probably further down the list countwise than you know.  I tried to get on the kingin drops the first day.  Wasn't able.  Came back and saw it weeks after it opened up.  Clicked notify.  Either this will be first, or the 3090 hybrid.  I'm ~ four days out on that.
 
24G-P5-3998-KR 1/8/2021 3:43:32 PM PT

KPE is one of the ques that has actually moved in the last couple weeks, you may be looking good if it keeps going

philipma1957

static.quai

CptT95

philipma1957
It is hard to explain on the internet the complexity of the chip on the wafer hash some factor.
The yield on a wafer has some factor.
But I know the issue is that no one is getting enough chips because the foundries do not have enough machine to burn wafers. If you said only nvidia will have access to the foundries available they could burn the chips to meet the demand. But all other companies would not be able to do so.
You simply need more foundries and they are expensive.  The worst thing for capitalism is excess stock/merchandise since it is a big loss.  Ie a 2000 dollar kingpin makes say 400 profit for evga. sell 10 your profit is 4000
10 sitting in a box not selling is 20,000 gross income lost. So most manufacturers prefer small shortages over small overages.  So they tend to undersize. The pandemic change a lot of demand all over the world for all kinds of chips.  So the world needs 150% more chips and does not have the foundries to burn them.
 
The fact that one chip is more complex is not my point.
The fact that there is not enough time in the day to burn all the chips needed due do not enough working foundries is my point. 
 
 

To add fuel to the fire, cryptocurrency is booming, leading to MUCH higher demand then typical

Crypto mining is part of the problem.  This is not the first time.  I could buy cards in 2017.  There is something else going on here.  It is the the big white elephant.  Amazon and Newegg make a lot of money off the secondary market.  Ebay and StockX make most of their money in the secondary market.  If they can make more off of scalpers, why would they put a foot down and stop it.
 
The thing I don't know about EVGA is why they don't make it easy to know where you are in the queue.  I think it's probably it costs too much to commit someone to that.  It may be competitive reasons.  It may be due to their contract obligations, they cannot say.  Probably in that order are my thoughts.  They're still doing more than the rest to get us cards without constantly watching when stock becomes available and hoping to beat the bots.

 
I agree my pc gamer/miner build  business will go on vacation due to this shortage.  Not that It was a huge business but it was fun and I always had a killer rig or 2 in the house.  This is what I meant by a flaw in capitalism was cursed at for saying it in a few posts back.
 
Capitalism puts profits first (generalization but close enough)
 
So pretend you are 2 years back and efforting to setup  your 3000 series merchandise. You can plan to make 10000 cards 15000 cards 20000 cards.
But you know that to have excess inventory is a killer.
 
10000 cards at 1500 to create and get to customer at 2000 giving you 10,000 x 500 = 5 million profit. you sold them all.  could have sold more but you make 5 million
 
20000 cards at 1500 to create and get to customer at 2000 but you sell 16,000 get stuck with 4,000 many rmas due to badly cut wafers of chips or just poor chip yields 
 
you spent 30,000,000 and got 16,000 x 2000 = 32,000,000 only 32 million so you net 2 million profit.  They have to judge that for every card they build.
 
They get few numbers Guys like me that have a gear back ground and make a few projections.  Guess what every one is favored to under build and be short some cards.
 
Unless a king-pin is only 300 out the door and they sell for 2000. So they guess a bit low as usual know oh if we are short a bit it is cool we won't get stuck gear.
 
Then a lot happened
A) the 3000 series has been really good gear.
B) we are all stuck in homes far more than normal
C) mining is so good that 1000 bucks for a 3060ti makes some $$ sense.
D) the builders like msi, evga, asus, pny etc know they can sell out all the gear
E) the scalpers know they can overcharge
 
No one is protecting the consumer from their habits.
 ie you like to game well pay up.
you want to mine well pay up
you want to fold well pay up.
 
As I said I would do a full Know your customer with evga to get 3 or 4 cards and be done with waiting.
I know I am not going to build my 20+ pc's to sell this year.
I purchased 3 Newegg Shuffle wins and I overpaid on all of them as I wanted warranty protection.
I would have liked to get one or 2  cards from the que here but I can see it is not likely. To happen soon.
 
Heck I am closer to the king pin than most likely any other card because it is the highest marked up card.
 
3998 >>>>>> 12/16/2020 09:51:04 >>>>>> 1/31/2021 7:18:37 PM PT………………….   I think I am 74 on the list. Not mad at anyone more or less tired of the pandemic and typing on keyboards.
 
 

What is Folding? sorry if this an obvious answer, just never heard that term used before

Thanks Kraade.
 
Folding - That is interesting.  I didn't know that.

Still about 2 hours away from my 3978 Hybrid 3090. My 3070 is playing games just fine but I want to upgrade to one of the 32" 4k (Or LG CX 48") monitors this year. Question.. once it does come in is it acceptable to offer the 3070 here ?

Is this queue based on the order we signed up for the notifications? or does it randomly select a batch of people who are signed up?
If we click the notify button again now to make sure we are signed up, will that change our place in the queue?

NitroNik24
Is this queue based on the order we signed up for the notifications? or does it randomly select a batch of people who are signed up?
If we click the notify button again now to make sure we are signed up, will that change our place in the queue?

It is based on the order we signed up for it - i.e. it goes by the time stamp. As for checking, it DOES NOT reset your spot in line, it just confirms that you are in it. You can also check "My Notifies" under your EVGA account to check. :)

PHOENIXZERO
So it's now been a couple months since I broke down and bought a 3090 XC3 Ultra when I had it pop up for my area on BestBuy.com, still hate that I spent that much but given where things have gone since maybe not so much see how things have still barely moved in the two months since for the 3080s I entered the queue for. Guess it's time to just remove myself from them.
 
11/11/2020 8:30:20 PM PT
11/11/2020 8:29:53 PM PT
10/31/2020 11:32:12 AM PT
10/22/2020 11:14:22 PM PT

10G-P5-3883-KR 9/16/2020 6:30:10 PM PT
10G-P5-3881-KR 9/16/2020 6:29:52 PM PT

Still not even a glimpse of that email and don’t even remember the last time that queue moved. RIP

One cannot have B-stock when there's literally no chiplets/dies to be had in the first place.  People can't RMA what they can't get in the first place