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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:32:23 (permalink)
Looks like Newegg Shuffle isn't happening today and today's gonna be a weak drop day too eh?  That blows.
 
And if you read the post previous to the one I quoted, he was clearly irritated, which is why I responded with what I did, to point out it's pretty silly to be irritated about such things:
 
ftb28064212
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Also, GIANT KUDOS to EVGA for allowing all of us in the queue, before the tariffs were enacted, to make purchases for the 30 Series at the Release MSPR. 

 
I feel like you're making the huge assumption that they actually manage to get through the queues before the cut-off date in April (unless they've announced some update I'm not aware of).


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I definitely lucked out on 3060Ti FTW (3665) by getting in early in the queue on 12/8/20, prior to any real announcement. EVGA did not have do this for their customer's and went well beyond what I would have expected. 

 
I may be slightly salty because I've been in the 3897 queue since 9/21 and am still far from getting my card.


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MSRP for the cards is the prices listed on the site now, not what we're going to be getting through April for those already in queue.
 
Just thought that, whatever you want to call it, perhaps "misconception", should be pointed out - prices went up because of the increased cost of importing the things, and increased cost of making them to begin with.  
 
In reality, people should be glad eVGA extended the prices we signed up for before January, through April - they didn't have to do that - instead of acting like it's some right we had because we been in queue since September etc.
 
Unpopular view, but also true :-P
 
I'm sitting here debating if I really want to go all out & get this CPU loop ordered or not - not cheap, but it's (sort of) a one time purchase, if I maintain the loop properly to keep it clean & happy.
Decisions.

You've gotten more 30 series cards than anyone else on here, that I'm aware of.  It seems money isn't really an issue, so you might as well go for it.  Just do yourself a favor and figure out a way to clean up the weird fan configurations and up your cable management game.  You've got a great case and awesome hardware, so you should do it justice by taking the time to do proper mounting and cable management.

 
And there some go again assuming I was attacking or anything of the sort when it's specifically stated in the post I'm not targetting ANYONE in particular:
 
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You've gotten more 30 series cards than anyone else on here, that I'm aware of.  It seems money isn't really an issue, so you might as well go for it.  Just do yourself a favor and figure out a way to clean up the weird fan configurations and up your cable management game.  You've got a great case and awesome hardware, so you should do it justice by taking the time to do proper mounting and cable management.

There's several forum members that are in to mining and/or Folding that have definitely gotten more cards than I have from the queue system & other sources.  And I really don't get why that is such a sticking point for some people - I waited in queue just like everyone else, ain't my fault I got in to queue for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra at o-dark 30 on launch day because I wanted one (and didn't get it until mid October despite being "in queue" for it since launch day) and then later adopted a full "yolo" perspective for "not being able to take money with ya when ya die" and went the 3090 Kingpin route. 
 
Life is way too short to be salty & complaining all the time, live the best ya can (Note: I am NOT saying you are salty or complaining all the time, that is a general statement & not directed at you, or anyone else in particular, for that matter - just a simple statement that I have learned is a good thing to live by in the last year and a half of ridiculousness the entire Earth is dealing with right now).
Edit: I'm also not saying you don't have a right to be irritated at this whole situation, because it does indeed suck completely.  There is no reason why anyone should still be having to wait in line for a GPU almost SIX MONTHS after it's initial release.  Insanity.
 
As far as "weird fan configuration" the current setup is temporary, and if I cared about cable management it would be cleaner, if you think it looks bad up in the front you should see the back  It's actually a LOT cleaner than it was, and it'll be cleaner once I get the loop in, which is supposed to arrive somewhere around February 19th... all the way from EK in the EU so hopefully it arrives intact O_o
 

 
So no I didn't "read that differently than you" I took it the way it came off if you read multiple posts in a row, in their entirety, instead of reading the first line & jumping to conclusions ^_^ when it's in plain text that I'm not attacking or feeling attacked by anyone from that post.  And the  pretty clearly indicates I found the pointing out of cable management etc hilarious because it is a temporary solution & has been stated as such - because the build isn't by any means "done".
 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:38:56 (permalink)
Limited releases today, more next week.
 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:39:09 (permalink)
Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.


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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:44:09 (permalink)
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Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.




Miners... they are going to miners. Robey Tech did a short yesterday saying that in some countries the massive mining farms that have popped up around the globe are causing huge strains on less developed powergrids. If you happen to get on the ethermine sub reddit or the gpumining subreddit you will see folks with large pockets are admittedly working with distributors to buy all their stock... that's 15-30K in cards per person in some cases....
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:44:45 (permalink)
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Limited releases today, more next week.
 
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Thanks for the update Jacob 

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:46:24 (permalink)
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Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.




NVidia is sending a whole swath of their supply directly to mining companies - and the shortage was said to be getting worse not better, before Chinese New Year is taking effect, so it's going to get even worse... then even worse again because of CNY... then the next round of tariff exemption expirations is going to raise prices.
 
In other words, we're going to see movement equivalent to the week before Christmas, for the entirety of the next 2-3 months, is my guess.  Hope I'm wrong, don't think I will be.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:46:48 (permalink)
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Limited releases today, more next week.
 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:47:04 (permalink)
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Limited releases today, more next week.
 
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Thanks for the update Jacob.  Have a great weekend.  Happy Spring Festival!
 
Translation...
 
3070 FTW3 Ultra               3767 
 
K|NGP|N (Queue sheet)    3998
 

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:49:33 (permalink)
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Limited releases today, more next week.
 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:52:19 (permalink)
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Is the 3888 dead? I am on pretty much every 30 series notify queue, but got on the 3888 list a month and a half sooner than the others, mainly because I was naive at the point and not just looking for whatever I could get my hands on :(.
 
Two days away from 3888 but feels like a lifetime at this rate.


Jacob said "they have no plans at the moment"=dead sku




 January 21st for all my other queues. Built my first PC this year and was extraordinarily lucky just to get a 3GB 1060 for only 130% MSRP from a Newegg "authorized dealer" aka scalper. Just enough for me to run Warzone relatively smoothly. Maybe by November I'll find an upgrade. 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:52:45 (permalink)
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Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.




NVidia is sending a whole swath of their supply directly to mining companies - and the shortage was said to be getting worse not better, before Chinese New Year is taking effect, so it's going to get even worse... then even worse again because of CNY... then the next round of tariff exemption expirations is going to raise prices.
 
In other words, we're going to see movement equivalent to the week before Christmas, for the entirety of the next 2-3 months, is my guess.  Hope I'm wrong, don't think I will be.


Do you happen to have a source available?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:53:44 (permalink)
lmao
 
well, nothing we can do.
 
any updates on 3898? the list shows me a couple of day behind.
 
Thanks
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:56:01 (permalink)
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Limited releases today, more next week.
 
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Thanks for the update Jacob.  Have a great weekend.  Happy Spring Festival!
 
Translation...
 
3070 FTW3 Ultra               3767 
 
K|NGP|N (Queue sheet)    3998
 


"more" next week. i got my finger cross for 3897 drops next week haha

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:56:40 (permalink)
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Limited releases today, more next week.
 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:56:47 (permalink)
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Limited releases today, more next week.
 
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Thanks for the update Jacob 


I am sorry, friend T_T

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 10:58:34 (permalink)
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Limited releases today, more next week.
 
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Thanks for the update Jacob 


I am sorry, friend T_T


no worries. it is what it is. 
 
Jacob informs us what is dropping..if its not your time..then its not your time lol

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 11:07:13 (permalink)
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Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.




NVidia is sending a whole swath of their supply directly to mining companies - and the shortage was said to be getting worse not better, before Chinese New Year is taking effect, so it's going to get even worse... then even worse again because of CNY... then the next round of tariff exemption expirations is going to raise prices.
 
In other words, we're going to see movement equivalent to the week before Christmas, for the entirety of the next 2-3 months, is my guess.  Hope I'm wrong, don't think I will be.




This assumes cards are even being made.  all it takes is just one little, critical surface mount component to be in short supply and you end up with a pile of GPUs sitting in a warehouse waiting for parts before they can be assembled.  Just last month there were reports of the auto industry shutting down factories because they couldn't get the electronic parts they needed to finish the cars.  It COULD be miners, but more likely, it just short supply of the parts need to make the complete cards.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 11:33:05 (permalink)
I'm 41 seconds away on 3898 Hybrid. I expect it in the next drop or the one after. Maybe a month tops.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 11:44:03 (permalink)
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Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.


There is a Silicon shortage. Even car manufacturers are suffering.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 11:48:32 (permalink)
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There is a Silicon shortage. Even car manufacturers are suffering.


https://www.newsmax.com/t.inance/article/1009643/8
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 11:50:03 (permalink)
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Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.




NVidia is sending a whole swath of their supply directly to mining companies - and the shortage was said to be getting worse not better, before Chinese New Year is taking effect, so it's going to get even worse... then even worse again because of CNY... then the next round of tariff exemption expirations is going to raise prices.
 
In other words, we're going to see movement equivalent to the week before Christmas, for the entirety of the next 2-3 months, is my guess.  Hope I'm wrong, don't think I will be.




This assumes cards are even being made.  all it takes is just one little, critical surface mount component to be in short supply and you end up with a pile of GPUs sitting in a warehouse waiting for parts before they can be assembled.  Just last month there were reports of the auto industry shutting down factories because they couldn't get the electronic parts they needed to finish the cars.  It COULD be miners, but more likely, it just short supply of the parts need to make the complete cards.




 
Are cards being made due to miners.
Are mining cards being made due to mining.
There are the nvidia's
 
3090
3080 
3070
3060 ti. all work well for mining  with only the 3090 being too pricey
 
the amd 6000 series are too costly
 
and not sure if amd is making many 
 
5000 series 
 
pretend 80mh is the average  hash number for new cards
 
12.5 are 1000mh or 1 gh
125 are 10000mh or 10 gh
 
1250 are 100,000mh or 100 gh
 
12500 cards are 1,000,000 mh or 1000 gh or 1 th
 
the hashrate for Eth coins = 385 th
 
https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate
 
 
the chart shows growth from 204 th on August 10 2020
 
to 385th on feb 11 2021
 
that is 181 th or 181 x 12500 = 2,262,500 cards
 
added to the mining game.
 
I would argue that is close since there are some special asic machines that mine eth.
but some cards no longer can mine eth. Plus my 80mh a card number ag is pretty high 
So the question is how many cards have been produced over the 2-2.5 million cards  number I give.
Some gamers got cards
Some scientists got cards
Some graphic artist got cards.
 
Did nividia and amd produce 5 million cards?  Since August  I do not know.
 
Did scalpers really gamble big time and are they holding 100k cards world wide or 1 million cards world wide.
 
Knowing how many cards are getting scalped would help to understand how bad this is.
If scalpers worldwide have 1 million card inventory and have had solid sales for months it will be very hard to ever see them go.
 
Not know numbers makes this so hard to know how long this will continue.
 
(Hint) eth went up. so bad news.
 
 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 11:58:34 (permalink)
Hi guys, Is the "3080 FTW3 ULTRA" spreadsheet not updating? I haven't seen movement on it for days.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 11:59:59 (permalink)
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Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.




NVidia is sending a whole swath of their supply directly to mining companies - and the shortage was said to be getting worse not better, before Chinese New Year is taking effect, so it's going to get even worse... then even worse again because of CNY... then the next round of tariff exemption expirations is going to raise prices.
 
In other words, we're going to see movement equivalent to the week before Christmas, for the entirety of the next 2-3 months, is my guess.  Hope I'm wrong, don't think I will be.




This assumes cards are even being made.  all it takes is just one little, critical surface mount component to be in short supply and you end up with a pile of GPUs sitting in a warehouse waiting for parts before they can be assembled.  Just last month there were reports of the auto industry shutting down factories because they couldn't get the electronic parts they needed to finish the cars.  It COULD be miners, but more likely, it just short supply of the parts need to make the complete cards.




 
Are cards being made due to miners.
Are mining cards being made due to mining.
There are the nvidia's
 
3090
3080 
3070
3060 ti. all work well for mining  with only the 3090 being too pricey
 
the amd 6000 series are too costly
 
and not sure if amd is making many 
 
5000 series 
 
pretend 80mh is the average  hash number for new cards
 
12.5 are 1000mh or 1 gh
125 are 10000mh or 10 gh
 
1250 are 100,000mh or 100 gh
 
12500 cards are 1,000,000 mh or 1000 gh or 1 th
 
the hashrate for Eth coins = 385 th
 
https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate
 
 
the chart shows growth from 204 th on August 10 2020
 
to 385th on feb 11 2021
 
that is 181 th or 181 x 12500 = 2,262,500 cards
 
added to the mining game.
 
I would argue that is close since there are some special asic machines that mine eth.
but some cards no longer can mine eth. Plus my 80mh a card number ag is pretty high 
So the question is how many cards have been produced over the 2-2.5 million cards  number I give.
Some gamers got cards
Some scientists got cards
Some graphic artist got cards.
 
Did nividia and amd produce 5 million cards?  Since August  I do not know.
 
Did scalpers really gamble big time and are they holding 100k cards world wide or 1 million cards world wide.
 
Knowing how many cards are getting scalped would help to understand how bad this is.
If scalpers worldwide have 1 million card inventory and have had solid sales for months it will be very hard to ever see them go.
 
Not know numbers makes this so hard to know how long this will continue.
 
(Hint) eth went up. so bad news.
 
 




AMD likely haven't produced many 6000 series cards. They are using more of their 7nm allocation at TMSC for consoles and CPUS. The 6000 series is not nearly as good as the 5000 series or 30 series for eth mining. They have chosen to prioritize their domination of intel and satisfying Microsoft and Sony which is a smart business move given the gpu markets mindshare issues. 
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Hi, I don’t know when I signed up for sku: 3767
With that said, I got my notification for it 02/10/2021 @ 09:53
I was on my way to bed when I saw the email.
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Hi guys, Is the "3080 FTW3 ULTRA" spreadsheet not updating? I haven't seen movement on it for days.


That's because the 3080 FTW3 Ultras haven't really been dropping for a few days.. 

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/02/12 12:17:10 (permalink)
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Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.




NVidia is sending a whole swath of their supply directly to mining companies - and the shortage was said to be getting worse not better, before Chinese New Year is taking effect, so it's going to get even worse... then even worse again because of CNY... then the next round of tariff exemption expirations is going to raise prices.
 
In other words, we're going to see movement equivalent to the week before Christmas, for the entirety of the next 2-3 months, is my guess.  Hope I'm wrong, don't think I will be.




This assumes cards are even being made.  all it takes is just one little, critical surface mount component to be in short supply and you end up with a pile of GPUs sitting in a warehouse waiting for parts before they can be assembled.  Just last month there were reports of the auto industry shutting down factories because they couldn't get the electronic parts they needed to finish the cars.  It COULD be miners, but more likely, it just short supply of the parts need to make the complete cards.




 
Are cards being made due to miners.
Are mining cards being made due to mining.
There are the nvidia's
 
3090
3080 
3070
3060 ti. all work well for mining  with only the 3090 being too pricey
 
the amd 6000 series are too costly
 
and not sure if amd is making many 
 
5000 series 
 
pretend 80mh is the average  hash number for new cards
 
12.5 are 1000mh or 1 gh
125 are 10000mh or 10 gh
 
1250 are 100,000mh or 100 gh
 
12500 cards are 1,000,000 mh or 1000 gh or 1 th
 
the hashrate for Eth coins = 385 th
 
https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate
 
 
the chart shows growth from 204 th on August 10 2020
 
to 385th on feb 11 2021
 
that is 181 th or 181 x 12500 = 2,262,500 cards
 
added to the mining game.
 
I would argue that is close since there are some special asic machines that mine eth.
but some cards no longer can mine eth. Plus my 80mh a card number ag is pretty high 
So the question is how many cards have been produced over the 2-2.5 million cards  number I give.
Some gamers got cards
Some scientists got cards
Some graphic artist got cards.
 
Did nividia and amd produce 5 million cards?  Since August  I do not know.
 
Did scalpers really gamble big time and are they holding 100k cards world wide or 1 million cards world wide.
 
Knowing how many cards are getting scalped would help to understand how bad this is.
If scalpers worldwide have 1 million card inventory and have had solid sales for months it will be very hard to ever see them go.
 
Not know numbers makes this so hard to know how long this will continue.
 
(Hint) eth went up. so bad news.
 
 




You have a valid argument.  I have seen the pictures of the 30's mining rigs, I have seen the pictures of the Laptop mining farms... but it's not the only thing going on.  Looking at the hash rate chart, there was a large jump in hash rate in late august, early September.  That's before the release of the 3080, so something other than the 30 series cards was causing the rise.  I am not going to deny mining is hurting supply, but I would vote silicon shortages are hurting it worse.  
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Hi, I don’t know when I signed up for sku: 3767
With that said, I got my notification for it 02/10/2021 @ 09:53
I was on my way to bed when I saw the email.
Best feeling after a long hard night working in the ICU.

Upgrading from a GTX950 on 144hz, my body is not ready. UPS can’t arrive in the next few hours fast enough. Be patient & no to scalpers....wear a damn mask!

If you click this link: https://www.evga.com/community/myNotifies.asp it should take you to your notifies which will show you what time you registered for the queue :) Either way, thank you for reporting back to the thread!

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Do you happen to have a source available?
I’m putting holes in my drywall on the 2nd floor trying to put in ethernet jacks/cable and connecting it all in my basement........good times lol

Edit: Wife got the wrong ‘boxes’ or whatever they’re called. She got ‘new work’ and of course I need ‘old work’ *bundles up and gets ready to head to lowes*



#Bruh on the boxes thing :-D 
 
I know several news sites have reported that NVidia is selling output-less (as in no DVI no HDMI no Displayport no nada) GPUs en masse to mining companies directly, but I think that's mostly in China and whatnot, don't think it's as prevalent over here in the U.S., but that still effects our supply, we're already in a Die shortage, that's just making it worse.
 
retep88
This assumes cards are even being made.  all it takes is just one little, critical surface mount component to be in short supply and you end up with a pile of GPUs sitting in a warehouse waiting for parts before they can be assembled.  Just last month there were reports of the auto industry shutting down factories because they couldn't get the electronic parts they needed to finish the cars.  It COULD be miners, but more likely, it just short supply of the parts need to make the complete cards.



Seems like it's a combination of all of the above resulting in supply being like a trickle this entire time.

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jehoffman1
Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.




NVidia is sending a whole swath of their supply directly to mining companies - and the shortage was said to be getting worse not better, before Chinese New Year is taking effect, so it's going to get even worse... then even worse again because of CNY... then the next round of tariff exemption expirations is going to raise prices.
 
In other words, we're going to see movement equivalent to the week before Christmas, for the entirety of the next 2-3 months, is my guess.  Hope I'm wrong, don't think I will be.




This assumes cards are even being made.  all it takes is just one little, critical surface mount component to be in short supply and you end up with a pile of GPUs sitting in a warehouse waiting for parts before they can be assembled.  Just last month there were reports of the auto industry shutting down factories because they couldn't get the electronic parts they needed to finish the cars.  It COULD be miners, but more likely, it just short supply of the parts need to make the complete cards.




 
Are cards being made due to miners.
Are mining cards being made due to mining.
There are the nvidia's
 
3090
3080 
3070
3060 ti. all work well for mining  with only the 3090 being too pricey
 
the amd 6000 series are too costly
 
and not sure if amd is making many 
 
5000 series 
 
pretend 80mh is the average  hash number for new cards
 
12.5 are 1000mh or 1 gh
125 are 10000mh or 10 gh
 
1250 are 100,000mh or 100 gh
 
12500 cards are 1,000,000 mh or 1000 gh or 1 th
 
the hashrate for Eth coins = 385 th
 
https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate
 
 
the chart shows growth from 204 th on August 10 2020
 
to 385th on feb 11 2021
 
that is 181 th or 181 x 12500 = 2,262,500 cards
 
added to the mining game.
 
I would argue that is close since there are some special asic machines that mine eth.
but some cards no longer can mine eth. Plus my 80mh a card number ag is pretty high 
So the question is how many cards have been produced over the 2-2.5 million cards  number I give.
Some gamers got cards
Some scientists got cards
Some graphic artist got cards.
 
Did nividia and amd produce 5 million cards?  Since August  I do not know.
 
Did scalpers really gamble big time and are they holding 100k cards world wide or 1 million cards world wide.
 
Knowing how many cards are getting scalped would help to understand how bad this is.
If scalpers worldwide have 1 million card inventory and have had solid sales for months it will be very hard to ever see them go.
 
Not know numbers makes this so hard to know how long this will continue.
 
(Hint) eth went up. so bad news.
 
 


There are ETHASH ASICS that have released in that time frame at 1 to 2GH so that will heavily skew your numbers (I know of one site that has 45 and another with ~50 of these and that's just 2 places). Also a LARGE amount of people are mining on personal cards due to values being high through sites like Nicehash. Their number of 1 to 2 GPU users has 4x; this is your standard gamer trying to pay off their card(s) or make some side cash.
 
I am not denying that a large amount of cards are going to miners. But I don't think it is anywhere near the number you are stating. Even the company I work for is having difficulties getting silicone for automated valves, it is a widespread issue that has multiple causes but little fixes as there are just not enough plants outside of China and Korea making what is needed, and they are behind and can only make so much. Maybe this will help create more plants in other places but I doubt it due to labor rates.
 
Disclaimer: I use to be very into mining from 2015 to 18 and still very much follow the scene but am not mining like I used to. Just on a couple cards in the basement.
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Where, WHERE, are all the GPU chips going????
 
TSMC's and Samsung's fabs need to be churning out GPU chips at a rapid rate to stay profitable. Manufacturing problems might have accounted for early glitches in supply, but they've had months of production now. Yet EVGA is many months behind on filling direct orders and one doesn't see graphics cards at major retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon and B&H. Even the numbers of scalped cards available are small compared with the production reasonably to be expected.
 
The chips are going SOMEWHERE.
 
It would not surprise me if the U.S. Government and foreign governments are diverting the GPU chips for use in weapons systems or the like and that's why they are not being made into consumer graphics cards.




NVidia is sending a whole swath of their supply directly to mining companies - and the shortage was said to be getting worse not better, before Chinese New Year is taking effect, so it's going to get even worse... then even worse again because of CNY... then the next round of tariff exemption expirations is going to raise prices.
 
In other words, we're going to see movement equivalent to the week before Christmas, for the entirety of the next 2-3 months, is my guess.  Hope I'm wrong, don't think I will be.




This assumes cards are even being made.  all it takes is just one little, critical surface mount component to be in short supply and you end up with a pile of GPUs sitting in a warehouse waiting for parts before they can be assembled.  Just last month there were reports of the auto industry shutting down factories because they couldn't get the electronic parts they needed to finish the cars.  It COULD be miners, but more likely, it just short supply of the parts need to make the complete cards.




 
Are cards being made due to miners.
Are mining cards being made due to mining.
There are the nvidia's
 
3090
3080 
3070
3060 ti. all work well for mining  with only the 3090 being too pricey
 
the amd 6000 series are too costly
 
and not sure if amd is making many 
 
5000 series 
 
pretend 80mh is the average  hash number for new cards
 
12.5 are 1000mh or 1 gh
125 are 10000mh or 10 gh
 
1250 are 100,000mh or 100 gh
 
12500 cards are 1,000,000 mh or 1000 gh or 1 th
 
the hashrate for Eth coins = 385 th
 
https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate
 
 
the chart shows growth from 204 th on August 10 2020
 
to 385th on feb 11 2021
 
that is 181 th or 181 x 12500 = 2,262,500 cards
 
added to the mining game.
 
I would argue that is close since there are some special asic machines that mine eth.
but some cards no longer can mine eth. Plus my 80mh a card number ag is pretty high 
So the question is how many cards have been produced over the 2-2.5 million cards  number I give.
Some gamers got cards
Some scientists got cards
Some graphic artist got cards.
 
Did nividia and amd produce 5 million cards?  Since August  I do not know.
 
Did scalpers really gamble big time and are they holding 100k cards world wide or 1 million cards world wide.
 
Knowing how many cards are getting scalped would help to understand how bad this is.
If scalpers worldwide have 1 million card inventory and have had solid sales for months it will be very hard to ever see them go.
 
Not know numbers makes this so hard to know how long this will continue.
 
(Hint) eth went up. so bad news.
 
 


There are ETHASH ASICS that have released in that time frame at 1 to 2GH so that will heavily skew your numbers (I know of one site that has 45 and another with ~50 of these and that's just 2 places). Also a LARGE amount of people are mining on personal cards due to values being high through sites like Nicehash. Their number of 1 to 2 GPU users has 4x; this is your standard gamer trying to pay off their card(s) or make some side cash.
 
I am not denying that a large amount of cards are going to miners. But I don't think it is anywhere near the number you are stating. Even the company I work for is having difficulties getting silicone for automated valves, it is a widespread issue that has multiple causes but little fixes as there are just not enough plants outside of China and Korea making what is needed, and they are behind and can only make so much. Maybe this will help create more plants in other places but I doubt it due to labor rates.
 
Disclaimer: I use to be very into mining from 2015 to 18 and still very much follow the scene but am not mining like I used to. Just on a couple cards in the basement.




There probably has been a large increase in ASICs however many miners choose GPUs over ASICS for eth because of the resale value and versatility when mining. I have no doubt Nvidia and many AIBs are selling in bulk to miners however if they could produce more cards they would. There is a shortage, however many companies are burning their typical consumers in order to make a quick return on large scale buyers knowing that eventually they will have production to meet demand.
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