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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 13:30:54
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Hurin I realize you can't really reason people out of anger. . . but evga is at the mercy of nvidia's supply chain. And since queues have never been needed before, and we don't know how accurate the information they were getting from nvidia was. . . I find it sorta hard to blame evga or get angry at them for not implementing queues from day one. But heck, I sorta find it hard to be angry at nvidia too. They've got a hot product, they're selling out as fast as they can produce them. So, it's all sorta win-win for them. So maybe I'm too far to the "meh" side of things. The reports of them selling directly to miners though does annoy. I'll admit to that. /journaling.
I try to stay on the positive side, but there are certainly moments -- last week being one of them -- where the slow pace and smaller volumes of drops gets to me. I recognize the difficult position of EVGA, but I hope they -- too -- realize the challenges we consumers confronting. In the absence of information about the nature of this launch, a lot of folks sold their existing cards or put off buying a last gen card when their existing card failed...and are now...desperate. But, EVGA continues to demonstrate that they are trying...see the price grandfathering announcement from this week as an example. I continue to believe that my best bet for a card is EVGA and its queues....
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 13:30:56
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Dabadger84 The 3080 Ti will likely be as low-yield as the 3090 is, so I wouldn't count on it being more readily available, nor would I expect NVidia to be smart and stock pile them before release. Whenever they do come out it will be another crap-storm of scalping & zero availability, I will be amazed & shocked if I'm wrong about that.
Everything seems to be low yield right now. All I was saying is that the 3080ti is it's own card vs. a hybrid or HC that is identical to a standard 3080/3090 in terms of architecture. The 3080ti has a different amount of VRAM than the others which is a major difference, enough to make it a standalone card despite the 3080 tag. That means they have to be produced separately vs. pulled off the 3080/3090 assembly line and water cooled. The fact that EVGA is calling it a 3080 isn't all bad though because it probably allows them to do the same thing with the 3080ti that they did with the hybrids and HC (when it's released). Keep it in house, in other words. If they called it a 3085, or something like that, the other retailers might get access to it. As it stands right now, when the retailers say, "I demand that you give me 3080's!", they get their 3080's, but they don't get to pick and choose which ones they get. Now, since the 3080ti is a different card, maybe there will be more of them available than the hybrids and HC's. I doubt they will be readily available, but the high price is going to be a turn off for some. I'm also hoping that a lot more people get a card in their hands before the 3080ti queue starts. I don't want to see a bunch of people trying for one solely because they are light years away in a queue for another card.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 13:32:13
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KevinDontDance Apologies if this has been asked ad nauseam, but do Step-Ups get first dibs on inventory or do auto-notifies?
They are separate queues and EVGA feeds them both...not sure if they feed them equally. But they do not cross over (i.e., you cannot leverage your position in the auto-notify queues to step-up from your existing card when your name comes up on the auto-notify queue).
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 13:36:14
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Thanks, enewt! I appreciate it. I signed up for the auto-notify before I learned about step-up but I think I'll remove mine for the 3060ti, just a difference of a day. "Just" HAHAHA
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 13:37:43
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KevinDontDance Thanks, enewt! I appreciate it. I signed up for the auto-notify before I learned about step-up but I think I'll remove mine for the 3060ti, just a difference of a day. "Just" HAHAHA
I'd keep them both until you get your card. Keep the flexibility.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 13:46:42
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I went to newegg out of curiosity to see the prices here in Canada. AND OH MY GOD. The 3897 is marked at a whopping 1200$!!! (~1025$US) Like, holy crap. Unless EVGA didn't change the prices on the website yet, it's still shows at 880$US (~1120$CAD). Only MemoryExpress comes close at 1199$CAD. Looks like I'm sticking to the queue~~
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 13:47:49
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Lebon14 I went to newegg out of curiosity to see the prices here in Canada. AND OH MY GOD. The 3987 is marked at a whopping 1200$!!! (~1025$US) Like, holy crap. Unless EVGA didn't change the prices on the website yet, it's still shows at 880$US (~1120$CAD). Only MemoryExpress comes close at 1199$CAD. Looks like I'm sticking to the queue~~
The prices on EVGA.com have been updated for 2021 prices already....
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 13:57:24
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I doubt EVGA has much inventory or we would have seen cards appearing either here or in EVGA retailers. I don't see any cards anywhere. I keep hoping production is ramping up and EGVA will start receiving large shipments by ship, which takes longer but is less expensive than air freight. The demand cannot be all that large since relatively few people buy GPUs nearly as powerful and expensive as the cheapest RTX 3060 TI. (Most people with computers don't even have discrete graphics cards.) So, the supply has to be very low and even a relatively modest increase in supply should have a major effect on satisfying demand. I don't have any inside information but I suspect that the main problem is a shortage of the GPU chips Samsung is fabricating for Nvidia, since a shortage of anything else would be more likely manifested as a shortage of particular makes or models of cards. Instead, whatever the problem is seems to be affecting ALL RTX 3000 series cards. I've been looking on the websites of all the major retailers and no-one seems to have any of the cards in stock or even available for pre-order.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 14:12:09
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Lebon14 I went to newegg out of curiosity to see the prices here in Canada. AND OH MY GOD. The 3987 is marked at a whopping 1200$!!! (~1025$US) Like, holy crap. Unless EVGA didn't change the prices on the website yet, it's still shows at 880$US (~1120$CAD). Only MemoryExpress comes close at 1199$CAD. Looks like I'm sticking to the queue~~
$1299 for the 3897-KR now too, it's brutal. Keep in mind if you are in Canada like me, we are going to get dinged with brokerage fee's by UPS too. So with converting to USD and paying the brokerage fee's ordering direct from EVGA we're still going to be paying a premium.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 14:17:55
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enewt “Wonder Twins activate...shape of pessimism incarnate.”
Can't help but be realistic. This isn't a fantasy where cards are appearing out of thin air. No reason to get people's hope up anymore it's going on 4 months now for some of us.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 14:18:47
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jehoffman1 I doubt EVGA has much inventory or we would have seen cards appearing either here or in EVGA retailers. I don't see any cards anywhere. I keep hoping production is ramping up and EGVA will start receiving large shipments by ship, which takes longer but is less expensive than air freight. The demand cannot be all that large since relatively few people buy GPUs nearly as powerful and expensive as the cheapest RTX 3060 TI. (Most people with computers don't even have discrete graphics cards.) So, the supply has to be very low and even a relatively modest increase in supply should have a major effect on satisfying demand. I don't have any inside information but I suspect that the main problem is a shortage of the GPU chips Samsung is fabricating for Nvidia, since a shortage of anything else would be more likely manifested as a shortage of particular makes or models of cards. Instead, whatever the problem is seems to be affecting ALL RTX 3000 series cards. I've been looking on the websites of all the major retailers and no-one seems to have any of the cards in stock or even available for pre-order.
I think you are underestimating the number of people who game on PC. There are 5 million members on pcmasterrace and that place is toxic as hell. The demand is there, people aren't spending their normal "fun" budget doing normal activities, I don't think $500 is breaking many banks. To your point, while the demand is real, the shortages are just as real. The AIBs have people in line dying to give them $400-2000+, they would be crazy to not do everything possible to try to meet that demand. There are multiple places out there dedicated to scanning retailers for "drops", and any stock is gone within seconds.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 14:19:59
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enewt “Wonder Twins activate...shape of pessimism incarnate.”
Can't help but be realistic. This isn't a fantasy where cards are appearing out of thin air.
No reason to get people's hope up anymore it's going on 4 months now for some of us.
Agreed. I dislocated my F5 finger (for the first time) the morning of September 17. But, folks are getting EVGA 30 series cards through the queues...it is just that we all wish they would have greater volumes (and more transparency).
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 14:39:21
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enewt
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enewt “Wonder Twins activate...shape of pessimism incarnate.”
Can't help but be realistic. This isn't a fantasy where cards are appearing out of thin air.
No reason to get people's hope up anymore it's going on 4 months now for some of us.
Agreed. I dislocated my F5 finger (for the first time) the morning of September 17. But, folks are getting EVGA 30 series cards through the queues...it is just that we all wish they would have greater volumes (and more transparency).
EVGA keeps mentioning they are increasing production. And new SKUs keep dropping. Clearly they are increasing production of new SKUs.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 14:43:54
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I just want them to be upfront. Like guys we wont have anymore drops untill we resolve the msrp issue. Instead of having us sitting here waiting for drops for 2 days. Or guys due to whatever issues these sku's wont be moving for a while. Idk might be to much to ask for.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 14:53:45
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What is getting frustrating is that some of us put in for notifications back in *October* but still haven't gotten any e-mail (or even seen any supply, either here or elsewhere) but what makes it more disgusting are the skalpers selling these units for almost forty percent more than retail (and people actually BUY THEM) My 1070 is still running, but I really would like to upgrade it already.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 14:56:26
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WARNING! THIS IS THE EU QUEUE! For the North American Queue status, please refer to enewt's posts. Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues Recent moves are in bold, another "3080 Day" but only for the FTW3 that moved a wooping 7 minutes! Name SKU Latest Emailed Date 3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 9/24/2020 9:33:47 AM PT 3080 XC3 Ultra 3885 9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT 3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897 9/17/2020 7:25:56 AM PT 3070 XC3 Black 3751 10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT 3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT 3070 FTW3 Ultra 3767 10/29/2020 6:12:00 AM PT 3060 Ti XC Gaming 3663 12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT 3060 TI FTW 3667 12/05/2020 12:23:00 PM PT
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 14:56:48
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One thing just occurred to me. The docks were likely closed for two weeks at the end / start of the year. This would lead to a bit of a bottleneck right now for evga getting the cards as they are stuck in the port. I'm more worried now about Golden Week. There may be three weeks at the beginning of March with nothing.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 15:02:55
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Flintheart Glomgold One thing just occurred to me. The docks were likely closed for two weeks at the end / start of the year. This would lead to a bit of a bottleneck right now for evga getting the cards as they are stuck in the port. I'm more worried now about Golden Week. There may be three weeks at the beginning of March with nothing.
I am actually wondering whether during the holiday week EVGA directed inventory that would have normally gone to their warehouses to Best Buy, Newegg, etc...resulting in the only backlog of inventory that which we have generated over yesterday and today while they worked on the backend price grandfathering issue....
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 15:05:38
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Flintheart Glomgold One thing just occurred to me. The docks were likely closed for two weeks at the end / start of the year. This would lead to a bit of a bottleneck right now for evga getting the cards as they are stuck in the port. I'm more worried now about Golden Week. There may be three weeks at the beginning of March with nothing.
Now that you mentioned it, I passed by the port yesterday and it was overflowing with containers. So you might be on to something here.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 15:05:53
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enewt
Flintheart Glomgold One thing just occurred to me. The docks were likely closed for two weeks at the end / start of the year. This would lead to a bit of a bottleneck right now for evga getting the cards as they are stuck in the port. I'm more worried now about Golden Week. There may be three weeks at the beginning of March with nothing.
I am actually wondering whether during the holiday week EVGA directed inventory that would have normally gone to their warehouses to Best Buy, Newegg, etc...resulting in the only backlog of inventory that which we have generated over yesterday and today while they worked on the backend price grandfathering issue....
I was thinking this same thing last week but did not want to be the one who suggested this ugly idea :D
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 15:07:17
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guyerg I was thinking this same thing last week but did not want to be the one who suggested this ugly idea :D
You're welcome?!? Also, shout out to BovineGamer for continuing to keep track of the EU queue...keep up the good work!
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 15:14:14
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well newegg sold about 1000 3060ti units on ebay today in about 30 minutes. There were not evga so maybe the containers were filled with gpus from other venders. I did not always get to be on auto lists the first day they opened. But a few I got on with only a few hours delay. 08G-p5-3663-kr I que at 12/1/2020 the que opened 12/01/2020. I got in under 3 hours on this one. 08G-p5-3667-kr I que at 12/1/2020 the que opened 12/01/2020. I got in under 3 hours on this one.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 15:29:00
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philipma1957 well newegg sold about 1000 3060ti units on ebay today in about 30 minutes. There were not evga so maybe the containers were filled with gpus from other venders. I did not always get to be on auto lists the first day they opened. But a few I got on with only a few hours delay. 08G-p5-3663-kr I que at 12/1/2020 the que opened 12/01/2020. I got in under 3 hours on this one. 08G-p5-3667-kr I que at 12/1/2020 the que opened 12/01/2020. I got in under 3 hours on this one.
How did you track how many units Newegg sold? Is there a tool or option I can use to do this?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 15:38:59
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I go to neweggs ebay store and look at all the gpus they have listed I then check to see if I want one. I do it every morning. They listed two different one today that sold out really fast. Since they are not evga I do not want to show a link for rival gear.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 15:55:27
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All those cards, sitting in the EVGA warehouse waiting...there must be... dozens of them...
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 16:02:07
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While I am also sitting here suffering patiently like many of you, I have to say, it’s nice to see all of the support and comraderie. At least we’re all waiting eternally for cards together <3
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 16:04:23
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Flintheart Glomgold One thing just occurred to me. The docks were likely closed for two weeks at the end / start of the year. This would lead to a bit of a bottleneck right now for evga getting the cards as they are stuck in the port. I'm more worried now about Golden Week. There may be three weeks at the beginning of March with nothing.
I don't know about the docks, but Air Cargo was open over the holidays. I am a retired lawyer. I now operate a dog rescue organization. We picked up a shipment of dogs from Asia on 12/27 and another on 1/1. The dogs were a small part of the cargo on the plane and I saw 3 more planes from the same airline land on 12/27 while we were waiting for the dogs to be released. So, cargo IS arriving from Asia--and the amount coming by air is almost certainly a tiny fraction of the amount coming by sea. While we were waiting, I watched cargo being moved from the air cargo warehouses into semi trucks. It's all done by forklifts that drive right into the trucks with the loads--no human handling. I doubt very much that EVGA gets any shipments in less than pallet loads, and they probably have large orders, e.g., for Amazon, shipped directly to the customer, rather than having the merchandise delivered to EVGA and then redelivered to the customers. The merchandise that comes directly to EVGA is probably to used satisfy warranty claims with the leftovers being used for individuals signing on the to "queue"s. Fulfilling "queue" orders is only a minor part of EVGA's business and we are lucky they are willing to undertake the task. I suspect they are doing it to build brand loyalty in the hopes that the people who buy here will encourage their friends to buy EVGA products through retailers once availability becomes more reasonable. I've been collecting parts to build a new computer. I have everything but the GPU--I want a 3060TI, but would take a 3070 if I could get it sooner--and the CPU--I want a Ryzen 5900X, which is in as short supply as the higher end graphics cards. I'm waiting because I am not willing to be antisocial and encourage the the scalpers to grab parts before the end users can.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/01/12 16:10:45
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Legit I will pay the higher price if I can just get my Kingpin already. The sooner I have that & get it all nice & happy in my system so I can move on to only looking for a CPU/motherboard upgrade the better (very likely going with a 5900x & an Asrock or Gigabyte X570 motherboard). KevinDontDance Apologies if this has been asked ad nauseam, but do Step-Ups get first dibs on inventory or do auto-notifies?
Nope, from what I understand it is the exact opposite, Step Up doesn't even have priority over RMAs.
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2021/01/12 16:11:33
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Yeah I build rigs as a side job. I have parts for everything, but the gpus. I am kind of stuck as all my intel cpus and mobos are gen 10 and we are nearing gen 11. am hoping to get enough parts to build 3 rigs for 3 long time customers. They are all using 1080tis I got here at evga.com
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
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I’m looking for GPU for over 3 months now. Gave my old build from November 2016 to my son (with gtx 1070), and decided to start new one without GPU, thinking “I will get it before Christmas “. Thankfully i5-10600k has onboard video so I been playing Half-life 2. I’m on episode 2 right now and I have to say I really enjoy it (max out at 1080 with high frame rates). However soon I going to need some “new” game. Any suggestions?
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