justin_43

Straykatt
Everyone has the right to their opinion, this is still America right? The bottom line he's conveying is why have us sign up for a card with the assumption we would actually get one. In my case I signed up for the Xc3 gaming, I like the look of the card the best and it seemed reasonably priced so that was the one I signed up for on 09/16. Most comments say patience is a venture, just be patient they're coming - from my point of view its a different story. I have been patient, how long do you have to be patient before you raise a hand? Can anyone verify eVGA said the Xc3 gaming cards are coming to the queue? Or is everyone still assuming? The only thing I heard a couple months ago was they were ramping up with supply on all SKU's.  

I agree that EVGA didn't handle it properly. They put more stock into some SKUs and not others. They did not make people aware they would do this. It's simply because some SKUs make more money for them than others. It's not right. If they wanted to be fair they would take each allocation of GPUs and spread it evenly amongst the SKUs. But they don't do that because the supposed OC cards have such meager clocks that any GPU can hit them. So they allocate most GPUs to the more expensive SKUs, because they like making more money. But that being said it doesn't make it right to switch queues because yours isn't moving. That is not fair to other people. It's EVGA fault not the other person's in line. If there is a complaint to be made it's that EVGA is not evenly distributing the GPUs amongst each SKU.
 

cbaty

Straykatt
 
 
HA! Nice, cheers to you! I'm currently working full time at home (until 09/2021) in a stressful job while watching my two and three year with my wife working the Covid respiratory section of her hospital again due to the second wave. 

From all of us here, thank you, and thank you to your wife!

May you all stay healthy, and sane. <3 

JustinGN
 
 
You cannot vote with your wallet in a duopoly like the GPU market, therefore you must hold the partners accountable by whatever means are at your disposal.  Abstaining from participation does not bring about change.
 

JustinGN
As for fairness, I am quite keenly aware with how capitalism works.  The fairness I suggest is, in this specific case, simply not offering queues for products the company has no intention of making in a reasonable time frame, as that misleads consumers into signing up for products that you knowingly will not provide them. 

JustinGN
The fairness I suggest is improved transparency in production so that consumers can make a better informed choice of the product they choose to line up for or purchase. 

JustinGN
 
 
The fairness I suggest is meeting the existing demand (the five launch SKUs for the 3080 and 3090) first, before creating new demand by further constraining supply (the Hybrid and Hydro SKUs, which could be better served - and more profitable - by offering them as modification kits rather than unique SKUs). 
 

JustinGN
The fairness I suggest is not treating the various SKU queues as the equivalent of gacha games, and instead make it clear up front which SKUs will be prioritized over others before permitting sign-ups, or offering some sort of compromise or resolution after-the-fact if you made such an error.
 
I do not pretend that capitalism is equal, only that it should be fairer than it currently is.  I just keep my arguments on-point and on-topic here, given the niche nature of the community.

Straykatt
 
You never know until you ask, what's the worst that can happen? Them saying no, closed mouths don't get fed and all.

Dabadger84
Hey, I just found you... And this crazy... But I might a card, that you'll work with maybe. 🤣


If you know what this is you a real OG.

Straykatt

cbaty

Straykatt
 
 
HA! Nice, cheers to you! I'm currently working full time at home (until 09/2021) in a stressful job while watching my two and three year with my wife working the Covid respiratory section of her hospital again due to the second wave. 

From all of us here, thank you, and thank you to your wife!

May you all stay healthy, and sane. <3 

That was nice, thank you I appreciate that and same to you and yours.

wenrist

Straykatt

cbaty

Straykatt
 
 
HA! Nice, cheers to you! I'm currently working full time at home (until 09/2021) in a stressful job while watching my two and three year with my wife working the Covid respiratory section of her hospital again due to the second wave. 

From all of us here, thank you, and thank you to your wife!

May you all stay healthy, and sane. <3 

That was nice, thank you I appreciate that and same to you and yours.

My wife and I are both nurses. It's a tough job at the best of time, now the stress and anxiety are off the charts and a respiratory unit to boot. Good luck to you all and stay healthy.

IcedTea363
J and N Computer Services in New York was super easy to get one ordered. They had one in stock when I called this morning. Expecting shipping to be a few days but it should arrive prior to Christmas. 
I bought mine via phone call and paypal invoice. Adam was great over the phone, it's worth the try as they've got 7 coming 12/23 they're advertising to reserve over the phone(really good shop reviews online).
 
 

Dabadger84
Hey, I just found you... And this crazy... But I might a card, that you'll work with maybe. 🤣


If you know what this is you a real OG.

evgaboyd
I don't agree with merging the queues because if that happens many people in the queue's won't see a card for probably 6 months plus if the current trend continues.

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JustinGN

First of all, I am not saying I deserve jack squat in terms of getting a card before others.  I suggested merging queues because it seemed like the fairest, quickest, and easiest solution for EVGA to implement that would quell most of the dissent and let them get back to work making GPUs.  If I felt so entitled that I deserved a card before anyone else, I'd go buy from a scalper, use a bot, or go to EVGA privately since literally any of those options would have a higher likelihood of success.  Instead, I am here in the forums, trying to put a polite and professional tone to the grievance in general so that others who feel similarly affected can rally behind it without resorting to toxic behaviors or general whining.  I made a clear statement of my grievance, offered proposed solutions that would benefit those affected, but ultimately left the decision in EVGA's hands on what, if anything, should be done about it.  Equating their silence to a given position for or against my concerns is putting words in their mouth, which I refuse to do or accept.
 
As for the issues regarding bots, scalping, nVidia's own mistakes, etc, I am already tackling those issues in more relevant venues.  I brought up a specific grievance unique to EVGA that I wished to see them address based on comments across this and other sites catering/pandering to GPU owners, nothing more.  I do not want a handout, I do not want a freebie.  I will flatly reject any offer of "settlement" to make me go away.
 
All I, all any of us in those queues really want, is an official statement from EVGA that addresses our concerns, and makes clear what the path forward is, even if that's little more than "We're don't believe we did anything wrong, and you're free to go elsewhere".  The point is we want an answer.
 
I don't understand why so many people here get so offended or defensive at the notion that some of us believe EVGA made a mistake, as if they're above reproach because they're a for-profit company, or that companies cannot make mistakes.  I get that my proposed solutions to the issue may not sit well with everyone, but the default mode seems to be frothing-at-the-mouth rage at how "entitled" I am rather than proposing an alternative beyond the status quo.  Nobody is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, and part of being a good person is admitting them and addressing them.  EVGA may be a corporation, but corporations are run by people, so those people need to address it.

Dude seriously. We’ve all heard your thoughts/opinions on this. I have multiple times and I haven’t even been here a week. Can you please let it go so that this thread does not get locked down? I understand where you’re coming from, but I have been enjoying the conversation here with everybody and would like to continue conversing with everyone in this thread.

404ServerError
Dude seriously. We’ve all heard your thoughts/opinions on this. I have multiple times and I haven’t even been here a week. Can you please let it go so that this thread does not get locked down? I understand where you’re coming from, but I have been enjoying the conversation here with everybody and would like to continue conversing with everyone in this thread.

ironroad
Greetings,

Been following this thread for some time.

I'm signed up for

3881 (3080 xc3 black) 9/16/2020 6:32:34pm

3888 (3080 xc3 hybrid) 12/10/2020 9:17:15am

No emails on either, and don't expect any for a long time (I anticipated at least till March-April)

I really want a hybrid XC3, but will take myself off the list once I'm allowed to purchase whatever card is available first.

Best of luck to everyone and Happy Holidays!