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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 13:59:58 (permalink)
I still feel the roll-out should've been more transparent on how to obtain points. Think about it! If you spend a lot with the company, you can get first dibs on the new products. My concern is, is this the future of them system and if so. Can we do more to get ahead. I am still waiting a year for my notification for my 3080 FTW model. The lords need to bless me. 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 14:00:26 (permalink)
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I just can't figure out this new 3.0 system out. Can someone, that understands it, please make a you tube video, to explain how it works.



I tried to here.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 14:29:39 (permalink)
Just popping in to say hello. I've been on the Motherboard forums still, but time has been a bit limited to keep up with the GPU queue. Also, 3.0 is...something.
 
Enewt, thanks for your FAQ, the example you gave actually clarifies it quite a bit. I'm not exactly sure how the scores are created (seems like nobody really is), but mine seems to be quite decent. I'm not looking for a new GPU any time soon though, so I won't be using that to get ahead of anyone lol. I do still have one active time stamp for a card that my friend wanted, but it's a 3895 and nowhere near the front of the line, so I'm assuming that's never going to happen. I told him to look elsewhere.
 
nomoss, love some of the recent pictures I've seen haha.
 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 14:39:14 (permalink)
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Let's see
 
Edit: Cool.

Hey guys how do you make the associates code link that everyone has?




It's in your profile. 


Well that didn't help at all. You mean..... what profile? I look in my public profile see nothing..... Also there are many links in my profile..... There is also a forum profile and god knows what other profiles. And god knows how many links are in THOSE profiles!

So I went to EVGA home page and clicked my EVGA profile and saw nothing resembling a link I could paste... in fact next to "associates code" it's blank.






Sorry, I thought it was pretty straight forward. It's this link after you sign in:
https://www.evga.com/associates/membership.aspx

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 14:41:51 (permalink)
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I just can't figure out this new 3.0 system out. Can someone, that understands it, please make a you tube video, to explain how it works.




There currently is no point in a definitive explanation on the 3.0 queue system since it is pretty much still in Beta ( Alpha) and will change anytime and for any length of time into the future until they get the results/behaviors they are expecting.  Sit tight and watch the forums (or the skies about the same result).




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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 14:43:48 (permalink)
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I just can't figure out this new 3.0 system out. Can someone, that understands it, please make a you tube video, to explain how it works.



I tried to here.




Super useful, but how do they weigh points exactly? If Joe has 100 and never received a card, but owns a card how would he rank against Jeff who has say 3000 points and received a card with queue 1.0 and signed up 2 days later?
 
This is like any MMR system, we may never know exactly how they weigh these things. 

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 16:24:33 (permalink)
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Let's see
 
Edit: Cool.

Hey guys how do you make the associates code link that everyone has?




It's in your profile. 


Well that didn't help at all. You mean..... what profile? I look in my public profile see nothing..... Also there are many links in my profile..... There is also a forum profile and god knows what other profiles. And god knows how many links are in THOSE profiles!

So I went to EVGA home page and clicked my EVGA profile and saw nothing resembling a link I could paste... in fact next to "associates code" it's blank.






Sorry, I thought it was pretty straight forward. It's this link after you sign in:
https://www.evga.com/associates/membership.aspx




Was my fault I checked my profile here in the forum I didn't realize it was separated ;D It should be there now

I finally figured out how to register. Far easier than it used to be.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 16:38:54 (permalink)
Thank you for the link, The example in the article using "Thor", "Camelus"," Jacob" and "enewt jr" really help me understand the new system. I'm amazed at EVGA, they really have made an effort to be fair, what a great company.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 16:52:06 (permalink)
I kind of gave up on the queue, not going to join the queue 3.0, feels like a never ending story, If I get the email great, if not, I'm going to wait for the 4xxx gen and maybe get a 4070, or whatever is close to the 3080 in performance

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2022/01/13 17:19:45 (permalink)
I am going to keep the Queue 3.0 Rules and the new Queue 3.0 Forum Thread links in the intro for a day or three for those that haven't heard the news yet. I have also attempted a rough FAQ to try to head off the inevitable questions that will arise as more casual queue followers learn about the new system going forward (constructive feedback is welcome as I was pulling it together while handling family duties and likely botched it up).
 
Thor's Day was basically a bust. Some left over salt from yesterday left me feeling a bit bloated and out of sorts. I need to work out. Some 3080 12gb units dropped to the lucky folks that made it in to the limited queue registration window on Tuesday (it was likely a limited cohort so that EVGA could test the Queue 3.0 priority system...I am confident the queue registration for those cards will open soon, perhaps even on or before January 27 when the 3050 is scheduled to launch).
 
As an aside, it has been months since the 3999 (3090 KPE HC) queue has moved. It is the one I am waiting for.  Sometimes I feel like I need to gather enewt jr. and a few friends, and head down to EVGA HQ and recreate this scene...but I am not smart enough to figure out how to communicate that the protest is about the 3999's lack of movement, and not requesting the formation of an EVGA_JacobF Only Fans account or some such thing. Amphibians do have some pretty smooth and tiny brains after all.... (Narrator: "True...true....")
 
Hopefully we get a little more action tomorrow -- Fabrication Friday -- let's go! 
 
Have a great night!
 
As of 5:15 pm PT Thursday, January 13, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents that a queue drop has reportedly occurred since the morning of January 13; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from that SKU's prior report*):
 
Card                                   SKU                    Most Recent Registration Timestamp to Receive an Invite to Purchase email
 
Ultra
3090 FTW3 Ultra                 3987                   05/12/2021 15:12:56
3090 XC3 Ultra                   3975                   10/13/2020 14:11:07
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3967                   06/05/2021 18:06:19
3080 FTW3 Ultra (12 Gb)    4877                   01/11/2022 09:36:19     (Queue 3.0 Rules)*
3080 FTW3 Ultra                3897-KL               12/03/2020 15:36:19
3080 XC3 Ultra (12 Gb)      4865                    01/11/2022 00:00:00        (Queue 3.0 Rules)*
3080 XC3 Ultra                  3885-KL               09/21/2020 15:57:55    
3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3797                   07/29/2021 11:10:45
3070 Ti XC3 Ultra               3785                    06/20/2021 11:20:37
3070 FTW3 Ultra                3767-KL               01/18/2021 15:31:30        
3070 XC3 Ultra                  3755-KL               12/28/2020 14:12:04
3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra            3667-KL                12/08/2020 18:52:00

Gaming
3090 FTW3 Gaming             3985                     09/24/2020 16:12:06      
3090 XC3 Gaming               3973                     09/24/2020 00:00:00
3080 Ti XC3 Gaming           3953                     06/30/2021 06:38:20 
3080 FTW3 Gaming            3895                     09/21/2020 09:57:19 
3080 XC3 Gaming               3883                     09/16/2020 11:14:32 
3070 Ti XC3 Gaming           3783                     06/30/2021 06:29:45
3070 XC3 Gaming               3753                    10/29/2020 06:37:16  
3060 Ti FTW3 Gaming         3665                    12/08/2020 18:52:16  
3060 Ti XC Gaming            3663-KL                01/30/2021 17:29:18    (114:14:09)
3060 XC Gaming                3657                     09/22/2021 19:08:22

Black
3090 XC3 Black                 3971                     09/24/2020 00:00:00 
3080 XC3 Black                 3881-KL                09/16/2020 16:07:01 
3070 XC3 Black                 3751                     10/29/2020 06:31:11  
3060 XC Black                   3655                     04/26/2021 04:01:06

Hybrid
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3988                   02/16/2021 22:33:39
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3978                    01/17/2021 22:10:07

3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid   3968                    06/03/2021 08:54:49
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hybrid     3958                     06/03/2021 14:43:27    
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid      3898-KL                12/16/2020 10:38:19 
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid        3888-KL                12/10/2020 09:21:56

Hydro Copper 
3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC          3989                     04/15/2021 10:00:31
3090 XC3 Ultra HC             3979                     06/23/2021 06:02:56       (00:00:35) 
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra HC       3969                     06/04/2021 09:01:10
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra HC          3959                     06/16/2021 05:06:11
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC           3899                     06/23/2021 06:00:34       (00:00:05) 
3080 XC3 Ultra HC             3889                     06/23/2021 06:00:10 

K|NGP|N 
K|NGP|N HC (Queue)          3999                    06/15/2021 09:17:29 
K|NGP|N Hybrid (Queue)     3998                    07/07/2021 07:59:57

 
* In the absence of information from EVGA about the respective tiers (EVGA score cohorts), the EVGA Queue Summary will report the latest timestamp report received (I'll assume that it comes from a registrant with a superlative EVGA Score (i.e., the highest tier) who has no prior history of buying a 30 series card from the EVGA Queue); Queue 3.0 rows in the summary will not include an "elapsed time" italicized parenthetical. 
 
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 17:46:35 (permalink)
Please, please revert to the old system. The new 3.0 system is godawful since you're just rewarding scalpers who've used bots to buy pallets of cards in the past with the opportunity to buy more cards, and spitting in the face of basically everyone else.
 
I understand you just want to reward active forum users/loyal patrons, but in doing so you've shot yourself, and everyone else in the foot. You're better then this. EVGA was supposed to be on our side, not indirectly assist scalpers to buy more cards 

 
 
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 17:50:53 (permalink)
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Please, please revert to the old system. The new 3.0 system is godawful since you're just rewarding scalpers who've used bots to buy pallets of cards in the past with the opportunity to buy more cards, and spitting in the face of basically everyone else.
 
I understand you just want to reward active forum users/loyal patrons, but in doing so you've shot yourself, and everyone else in the foot. You're better then this. EVGA was supposed to be on our side, not indirectly assist scalpers to buy more cards 



Were you around for the prior 30 series launch days? The 05:59:58 to 6:15:00 window each launch day was filled to the gills with (what I believe to be) registrations by bots, scalpers, alt accounts, etc. (and some legitimate folks, certainly). Queue 3.0, while not exactly how I would do it, seems like a real step in the right direction.

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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 18:03:06 (permalink)
I have been waiting since February for a notification to try to get a card. Now I see I have to join a new queue which prioritizes big spenders to even get a chance again. This is pure greed on EVGAs part and only serves to give scalpers a tighter hold on the market. I've had many EVGA cards and they are my favorite. However this clearly shows EVGA does not care about gamer customers, only miners and scalpers.
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 18:41:57 (permalink)
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I have been waiting since February for a notification to try to get a card. Now I see I have to join a new queue which prioritizes big spenders to even get a chance again. This is pure greed on EVGAs part and only serves to give scalpers a tighter hold on the market. I've had many EVGA cards and they are my favorite. However this clearly shows EVGA does not care about gamer customers, only miners and scalpers.


You're still in queue2.0
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 18:42:50 (permalink)
Is the queue for the  3885-KL ... ever going to move? I'm over a year in line now, and I sincerely doubt that I'll ever get a card.
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 19:30:50 (permalink)
With the 3.0 que placing anyone who has already purchased a 3 series GPU to the back - how does this help the scalpers?  Seems like this would be a good addition to help those who have not yet purchased a GPU.
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 19:52:07 (permalink)
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With the 3.0 que placing anyone who has already purchased a 3 series GPU to the back - how does this help the scalpers?  Seems like this would be a good addition to help those who have not yet purchased a GPU.




scalpers can register tens of thousands of new accounts and register previously purchased GPUs to get scores and they'll be well ahead of majority of gamers who did not spend much time in forums.
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 20:29:50 (permalink)
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With the 3.0 que placing anyone who has already purchased a 3 series GPU to the back - how does this help the scalpers?  Seems like this would be a good addition to help those who have not yet purchased a GPU.




scalpers can register tens of thousands of new accounts and register previously purchased GPUs to get scores and they'll be well ahead of majority of gamers who did not spend much time in forums.


You seriously overestimate scalpers.  You are free to purchase from the queue of a competing manufacturer.

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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 22:47:16 (permalink)
New accounts would have low scores, if they bought anything from the 30 series queues they would be at the back of their tier.  They can only buy one from each series meaning one 3090, one 3080, one 3070, one 3060, and one 3050 from queue 3.0 rules.  And once they bought any of the 30 series they would be at the bottom of their tier.  

This would remove bots like Enewt shared on launch day flooding the queue and bogging down the system.  While queue in time would matter as one of the tie breakers in order, bit wouldn't be as critical.  I also agree with Nomoss that we are overestimating scalpers.  Some with really high EVGA scores have earned those scores either by being a long time member of the forum and contributing but I also think they participated in the folding program which I think awarded evga bucks which is also how they got their high scores.  Some of them might of won evga bucks for other things as well.  
 
This system is not going to be perfect for everyone, but atleast now they are taking into account brand loyalty to a certain extent.  I know 3 years might not seem like much, but where do they draw the line?  This is a perspective that not everyone might agree with or maybe thy like it based on where they stand.  EVGA was not going to please everyone so this really is a lose/lose situation for them.  This is what they get for selling direct to customers.  You honestly think you have it rough now, if they ever stop this program then many more will lose imo.  There have been a lot of people who were able to get cards through the queues that might not have been able to without the previous queue system especially at msrp.  
 

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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 23:09:04 (permalink)
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New accounts would have low scores, if they bought anything from the 30 series queues they would be at the back of their tier.  They can only buy one from each series meaning one 3090, one 3080, one 3070, one 3060, and one 3050 from queue 3.0 rules.  And once they bought any of the 30 series they would be at the bottom of their tier.  

This would remove bots like Enewt shared on launch day flooding the queue and bogging down the system.  While queue in time would matter as one of the tie breakers in order, bit wouldn't be as critical.  I also agree with Nomoss that we are overestimating scalpers.  Some with really high EVGA scores have earned those scores either by being a long time member of the forum and contributing but I also think they participated in the folding program which I think awarded evga bucks which is also how they got their high scores.  Some of them might of won evga bucks for other things as well.  
 
This system is not going to be perfect for everyone, but atleast now they are taking into account brand loyalty to a certain extent.  I know 3 years might not seem like much, but where do they draw the line?  This is a perspective that not everyone might agree with or maybe thy like it based on where they stand.  EVGA was not going to please everyone so this really is a lose/lose situation for them.  This is what they get for selling direct to customers.  You honestly think you have it rough now, if they ever stop this program then many more will lose imo.  There have been a lot of people who were able to get cards through the queues that might not have been able to without the previous queue system especially at msrp.  
 




The 3 year cutoff might be due to accounting. The GPU's come with a 3 year warranty, which needs to be reported on their financials as a warranty expense (which is based on an estimate related to total unit sales for the year, among other things.) Also, Loyalty Rewards programs have an accounting dependency as well, which could have contributed to this decision (I wouldn't at all be surprised if it did.) To keep their liabilities for The Business as simple as possible, while also trying to reward their "loyal" customers, 3 years was what they landed on.
 
As a sidenote, Warranty expense also likely has a lot to do with why there are no longer lifetime warranties on anything from EVGA. It's highly likely that the liability grew beyond what they were comfortable holding, the more time that went by, combined with the lower chance of having RMA units in stock as time went on as well. Also likely why the recent reduction from 10 year extended to 6 year extended happened. Who knows, maybe they'll change things up eventually like Apple did with their AppleCare+ warranties, whereby we might be able to pay monthly for extended warranty "forever*".
 
*forever being until they finally say the item is obsolete and not covered anymore.
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 23:15:34 (permalink)
I entered the queue I think few days after the launch of the rtx 3000 series for a 3070, two years ago, and I was never able to purchase my card. This is frankly unacceptable. I also accepted to change from non lhr to lhr model, than was moved to Eu queue ( I was in the us queue and don’t know why) and was assured that I will not lose the position.
I don’t think that since then my position was respected but none of the staff of EVGA was able to tell me what’s happening. I own a press magazine and was able to access, for reviews purposes, to a lot of cards from other vendors, but this was just for personal use so I wanted to check how was the buying experience buying directly from the manufacturer shop. And it was a nightmare. @EVGA_JacobF
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/13 23:22:15 (permalink)
Well the way it's looking at getting a Hydrocopper 3080ti I'm still a month and a half for FTW3 edition.  UGGGHHHHHHH.  I am guessing Nvidia will have 4000 series cards first, then we'll have to use the 3.0 system, scratch that it'll be 5.0 by then.  At this point I am almost just going to buy a 6900xt from Microcenter and be done. 
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/14 00:12:50 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/14 02:50:29 (permalink)
😫😫😫 never got a chance to get in queue for 3060
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/14 06:06:09 (permalink)
Can anyone explain to me why under "my notified" still shows "True" under "Active" when I clicked on the "removed notify" button a few days away??
 
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/14 06:14:01 (permalink)
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I entered the queue I think few days after the launch of the rtx 3000 series for a 3070, two years ago, and I was never able to purchase my card. This is frankly unacceptable. I also accepted to change from non lhr to lhr model, than was moved to Eu queue ( I was in the us queue and don’t know why) and was assured that I will not lose the position.
I don’t think that since then my position was respected but none of the staff of EVGA was able to tell me what’s happening. I own a press magazine and was able to access, for reviews purposes, to a lot of cards from other vendors, but this was just for personal use so I wanted to check how was the buying experience buying directly from the manufacturer shop. And it was a nightmare. @EVGA_JacobF

 
The 3070 launched 14 months ago, not two years.  Nvidia forced the LHR change.  It's a queue, not a contract.
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/14 06:18:23 (permalink)
And you think it’s normal that after 14 months it’s still not my turn? Really? I’ve seen people reserving a card 9/10 months later and take their cards before me (also more than one) cards that was sold after a while at scalper price… the queue system doesn’t work. Could be so simple to let user reserve their cards with a % of the price.
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/14 06:19:16 (permalink)
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Can anyone explain to me why under "my notified" still shows "True" under "Active" when I clicked on the "removed notify" button a few days away??
 
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If you just recently removed it, it was too late to make any of your other queues active. The deadline for locking in your queues was a few months ago (back in October, I think). They reactivated the removal buttons in preparation for future queues, but they stated it would not change your current queues.

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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/14 06:22:48 (permalink)
Well as we all look forward to the RTX 4080 , I guess we can expect an msrp of 2699$ if these trends continue
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Re: EVGA.com 30 Series Queue System 2022/01/14 06:26:39 (permalink)
Why not 3999$ , with Huangs  greed, by rtx 6xxx there will be 7 PC gamers left in the world.
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