enewt

DoctorDothraki
Got a notify for my 3967! (USA queue)
Email was sent 11:43am PDT Dec/3/2021

ktfreak4jesus
I just got mine! 
3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING
08G-P5-3785-KL  6/15/2021 10:30:58 AM PT

Congratulations to you both and thanks for reporting back.  
 
 
I love reading articles about the backstory of the PC games of my youth. Here is a  about a classic; I hope you enjoy it.
 
In other news, for folks who really want to support some camels,  are playing in their first ever NCAA Final tomorrow.
 
Have a great weekend. 
 
As of 5:50 pm PT Friday, December 3, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents queue movement from the morning of December 3; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from that SKU's prior report):
 
Card                                   SKU                    Most Recent Registration Timestamp to Receive an Invite to Purchase email
 
Ultra
                 3987                   04/23/2021 09:20:18
                   3975                   10/06/2020 16:08:40
             3967                   06/04/2021 13:03:23       (00:38:51)
                3897-KL               10/15/2020 13:18:42
                  3885-KL               09/21/2020 09:04:25    
             3797                   06/10/2021 08:40:51
               3785                    06/15/2021 10:30:58       (00:00:58)
                3767-KL               01/09/2021 14:57:37 
                  3755-KL                12/20/2020 12:14:01
            3667-KL                12/05/2020 21:43:02

Gaming
             3985                     09/24/2020 16:12:06      
               3973                     09/24/2020 00:00:00
           3953                     06/30/2021 06:38:20 
            3895                     09/21/2020 09:57:19 
               3883                     09/16/2020 11:14:32 
           3783                     06/30/2021 06:29:45
               3753                    10/29/2020 06:37:16  
         3665                    12/08/2020 18:52:16  
            3663-KL                01/14/2021 11:48:27
                3657                     09/22/2021 19:08:22

Black
                 3971                     09/24/2020 00:00:00 
                 3881-KL                09/16/2020 16:07:01 
                 3751                     10/29/2020 06:31:11  
                   3655                     02/27/2021 09:38:44

Hybrid
       3988                   02/01/2021 07:31:00
         3978                    01/17/2021 22:10:07
   3968                    06/03/2021 08:21:54
     3958                     06/03/2021 08:55:52 
      3898-KL                12/16/2020 09:18:44 
        3888-KL                12/10/2020 09:17:43

Hydro Copper 
          3989                     04/15/2021 10:00:31
             3979                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 
       3969                     06/03/2021 09:52:30       (00:47:06)

          3959                     06/16/2021 05:06:11
           3899                     06/23/2021 06:00:15 
             3889                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 

K|NGP|N 
 ()          3999                    06/15/2021 09:17:29 
 ()     3998                    03/10/2021 18:52:21

 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Best of luck!   twene  
 

I have to admit Enewt that I am extremely disappointed the 3881-KL que hasn't moved a second in almost exactly 1 full year. I understand it's your cheap model but that's just fkn sad.

Thanks enewt for the queue positions report. I will now exit the queues so someone else can waste their time hoping to get an -- outdated -- GPU, sometime in 2024!
 
No, philipma1957, EVGA has not handled this better than the rest. While I too appreciate that they created a queue instead of a raffle or a bot-riddled electronic cart, I now realize that this is just a slightly different take on the illusion being handed out by Newegg, Best Buy, and AMD. They all give us the hope that we'll somehow get to buy a GPU, when what we really want to know is whether it is even a realistic to wait.
 
If EVGA had been more forthcoming, I'd have realized many moons ago that signing up in March 2021 was a waste of time. Would it really be all that hard to give us an idea as to where the queues were at? Really?
 
No, I don't believe they handled it any better. EVGA has been just as obscure in their queue system as the others have been, because they have not been forthcoming about where the queues are at.
 

trevorhargis
How long has the queue sign-up been shut down for, any chance it'll pick back up? Just built a new PC and trying to find avenues to wait for 30-series GPU's (just like everyone else). Anyone got good advice for a first-time PC builder who hasn't upgraded anything in 8+ years?
 
Edit: The most recent postings on the forum don't give me much hope. Good luck to everyone!

- Say goodbye to your budget.
- don't wait for EVGA, keep looking
- pay attention to the forums and twitter for product announcements
- try and get the EVGA 3050 and do a stepup once you get it. 
- Only buy from authorized EVGA dealers.
- Say goodbye to your budget.  But it won't get cheaper by waiting too long.
 

celocello
I am in queue : PartNumberDateEnteredNotify Sent Active9/16/2021 3:29:52 AM PTNo TrueLess than 2 months and no NOTIFY. I am in EU

Only 2 months? Some persons waiting 12-14 months.

LOL- Im in queue since Nov of last year.  Good luck to those that joined in 2021.
 
3080 FTW3 Ultra                3897-KL               10/15/2020 13:18:42
3080 FTW3 Gaming            3895                     09/21/2020 09:57:19 

Do you know if customer Support were the one's that sent out the email and what month? I'm currently checking everything from EVGA, only update i got for that model was back in November when they accidently sent out confirmation emails. 

Oh wow.  I haven't been on this thread for months and months.  I would have thought things would be a bit better off.
 
I was going to have my friend sign up for the list figuring it would only be a couple of months but geez.
 
Guess I didn't realize quite how lucky I truly was. 

CptT95

BeatTheDookieUp
Do you know if customer Support were the one's that sent out the email and what month? I'm currently checking everything from EVGA, only update i got for that model was back in November when they accidently sent out confirmation emails. 

Email webmaster@evga.com and tell them your 3897 sku never automatically switched to the lhr queue
There was atleast one person whom had this issue and got it fixed and received an invite to purchase email shortly after

Also how many notifies do you have?
If more then two then you should have gotten email about reducing that to two and that the Ultra models are your best bet ie: 3767 3797 3897 3885 3967 3987

dtulojr
EVGA has pretty much destroyed their reputation and good relationship they had with their customer base. What reason do any of us have to remain loyal to your brand?

The issues at hand are not EVGA specific and I think that EVGA has done their best with the que system to help individuals purchase the product that they desire. I am happy to be in the que as it seems my best option at the moment. I will not pay the scalpers even if that meant I could get a graphics card today.  I have been purchasing EVGA motherboards and GFX cards for a long time and dont have much to complain about except for what i recall as their 610i 630i motherboards. Both felt like I threw the money away. Well the fan noise on my SLI 780i system was crazy too although that ting was working up to just last year.

talonthorn
Thanks enewt for the queue positions report. I will now exit the queues so someone else can waste their time hoping to get an -- outdated -- GPU, sometime in 2024!
 
No, philipma1957, EVGA has not handled this better than the rest. While I too appreciate that they created a queue instead of a raffle or a bot-riddled electronic cart, I now realize that this is just a slightly different take on the illusion being handed out by Newegg, Best Buy, and AMD. They all give us the hope that we'll somehow get to buy a GPU, when what we really want to know is whether it is even a realistic to wait.
 
If EVGA had been more forthcoming, I'd have realized many moons ago that signing up in March 2021 was a waste of time. Would it really be all that hard to give us an idea as to where the queues were at? Really?
 
No, I don't believe they handled it any better. EVGA has been just as obscure in their queue system as the others have been, because they have not been forthcoming about where the queues are at.
 

 
i under stand your feelings.
 
i did well on 3090 cards
and i got a 3060 card
 
all my october and sept and nov and dec 2020 picks were a waste.
 
my wins
were
1/31 the kingpin came in july
2/1 the 3090 hybrid came yesterday
2/1 the 3090 ftw3 came in october
 
so in march you only stood a shot picking 3090 cards
 
 

ZU476B72N4PC
Got a step up offer this week from 3070 Ti FTW3 (purchased in June) to 3080 FTW3... feels kinda dirty with the original queue stuck on Oct 15 but I guess it'll put a refurb 3070 Ti into circulation.

Oh yeah, it gets even better. They're upgrading recent customers, over others who can't even buy a single 3-series card. Thanks for helping to make my point.
 
Grats on the upgrade, regardless!

@dtulojr: 
 
EVGA hasn't destroyed their reputation nor relationships with their customer, nor have they abandoned their customer base.  Maybe you personally feel that way, but there are a lot of people who don't.
 
Read this for some background on why EVGA must supply resellers https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3427846. 
 
1.  The Elite program changed by adding the 100 post as an option and, thankfully, that option has been discontinued.  The Elite program also, as always, allowed you to apply when you had bought x products during a set time frame and still does.
 
2.  Again EVGA modified the queue system to try and allow more people to get GPUs and there were notifications all over the site, forums, and emails that were sent to inform those in the queues to select two queues they wanted to keep.  They even suggested which ones were most viable.
 
3.  NVIDIA made the switch to LHR, not EVGA.  EVGA has zero say in what NVIDIA decides to do with GPU chips.
 
If you don't like the way EVGA does direct sales, then you can try Zotac, they may still have direct sales at much higher prices.  Other AIBs do not do direct sales anymore.  AMD still sells direct, but everything on their direct sales site has been out of stock for a very long time.
 
Rumor has the 40 series showing up maybe mid 2022 if NVIDIA decides to go early.  They will be in short supply also.  By sometime in 2023, if all goes well, the shortages may be well on their way to being alleviated.
 
You, me, and every consumer chooses which business they want to use.  If you do not want to use EVGA, then don't.
 
Your perception is your reality.
 
 
 

Not sure about this queue system been waiting since 2020 to get a 30x GPU meanwhile StockX has more EVGA graphics cards in stock than evga


KR 10/14/2020 8:43:44 PM PT
10G-P5-3883-KR 10/14/2020 8:43:11 PM PT
10G-P5-3881-KR 10/14/2020 4:31:20 PM PT
10G-P5-3897-KR 10/14/2020 4:30:59 PM PT
10G-P5-3895-KR 10/7/2020 6:13:29 PM PT

I’m thinking 40x series will be out before I get one.

Does anyone know if these two SKUs are still being produced?
            3895                     09/21/2020 09:57:19 
               3883                     09/16/2020 11:14:32 
They have been in the exact same spot for what seems like months.

dtulojr
Absolutely I do. And I'm willing to bet there are thousands who also do. Maybe they're forum members, maybe they aren't.
 

 
How is that any different from any other entity?  Some like them, some don't and the key is the majority.
 

dtulojr
I don't have an issue with resellers getting supplies for their products. I have an issue with them prioritized to the point where they get thousands, and a couple here and there are released elsewhere. It's forcing people to spend money they otherwise shouldn't or wouldn't. It's legal, but its unethical. It's no different than a bundle exclusivity practice, and it's supported by EVGA.

 
EVGA's contracts, both their own and those required by NVIDIA, are binding.  They must deliver x products or face penalties.  The vast majority of any company's revenue (for most, all) comes from these contracts and to abrogate them means corporate suicide.  Direct sales, particularly in the tech industry are becoming scarce as most companies realize the cost versus revenue is not worth it.
 

dtulojr
I have no problem with that program existing. I have a problem with the exclusivity and prioritization towards recent repeat customers, while telling others that they're doing the best they can to make sure as many people get an opportunity to purchase their products. In a nutshell, they appear to be lying.

 
The program started that way, it was based on products purchased during the prior 12 or 18 months (I don't remember).  EVGA has notifications on the site that explain that program members have the first 24 hours to purchase.  After that it is open to everyone.  How is that lying?  Most business rely heavily on repeat customers for sales.  EVGA is not the first company to offer an incentive to repeat customers.  The automobile industry has been doing it for decades to encourage customer retention. 
 

dtulojr
Yes, they did. And I switched. And came to find out those products were later discontinued or haven't been received for sale through the site for the better part of a year. And can't change what I'm waiting for, not that going to the back of the queue will matter anymore.
 

 
Did you happen to look at and check the twice daily summaries that @enewt puts out?  They give the relative movement of different queues.  Additionally, EVGA put out information as to what was considered the best options based on what NVIDA was allocating. 
 

dtulojr
This is fair, to a point; EVGA refused to implement strict and effective controls to prevent bots and scalpers and miners from obtaining their products, NVIDIA crippled their products, then EVGA further raised their prices on the now crippled product.
 

 
They do have and have had bot protections.  As far as miners and scalpers, how do you propose EVGA legally stop them from buying GPUs? 
 
Miners in the queues are probably part timers who are mining at night when their system isn't doing anything else like work or gaming.  The full time miners aren't waiting in queues. 
 
Are there scalpers in the queues?  Of course there are, but a company can't tell a consumer what to do with their property after they purchased it.  However, unless they were in the first minute of a queue, most scalpers are hitting the drops at retailers.  I don't think they are willing to wait a year to get their ROI.
 

dtulojr
You're actually suggesting I abandon NVIDIA and switch to AMD?

 
Nope, I was just pointing out that every company is in the same situation.  As far as platforms/brands, you choose what works for you like I do.  Speaking of which, when Intel enters the discrete desktop GPU market, rumored to be Q2/2022, it will be another option for consumers.
 

dtulojr
Funny. I remember a whole lot of people saying that about 2021...

 
Industries themselves knew that it would take years notwithstanding click bait news stories.
 

dtulojr
It's as if you entirely missed every single point I attempted to make...

 
If by "missed" you mean that I don't agree, then that is correct.