so NA queue for 3060 is at around 6 min while the EU queue never started as everyone under 1m still hasnt got an email.

gsrcrxsi
 
"need" lol. you dont NEED any of the cards mentioned and you could likely more easily satisfy your goals with previous gen RTX 20 series or GTX 16 series cards. you WANT the new gen.
 
no one NEEDs a gaming GPU.

GTX 16 cards don't support ray tracing and 20xx cards don't do it well.
Why would I pay 20xx prices for cards that don't perform as well?  

nomoss
GTX 16 cards don't support ray tracing and 20xx cards don't do it well.
Why would I pay 20xx prices for cards that don't perform as well?  

 
an RTX 2080ti performs very well. and they aren't that hard to get. same with RTX 2080S, etc. I've bought like 6 EVGA RTX 2080ti XC Ultras from various avenues online (reddit/ebay/etc) over the last few months, and paid between 500-700 for them each. reddit r/hardwareswap is the best place to catch a deal IMO, and usually cheaper since you don't pay the ebay-tax.
 
if you can settle for a 3060 for some of these systems, you'd be perfectly fine with a 2070 or 2070S since they perform similarly.
 
if you can settle for a 3060ti for some of these systems, you'd be perfectly fine with a 2080 or 2080S since they perform similarly.
 
if you can settle for a 3070 for some of these system, you'd be perfectly fine with a 2080ti since they perform similarly (actually the 2080ti is a bit better here, and has more VRAM and more mem bandwidth).
 
 
lower your expectations or lower your settings. you can still enjoy a game even with raytracing turned off if you needed to.

gsrcrxsi

nomoss
GTX 16 cards don't support ray tracing and 20xx cards don't do it well.
Why would I pay 20xx prices for cards that don't perform as well?  

 
an RTX 2080ti performs very well. and they aren't that hard to get. same with RTX 2080S, etc. I've bought like 6 EVGA RTX 2080ti XC Ultras from various avenues online (reddit/ebay/etc) over the last few months, and paid between 500-700 for them each. reddit r/hardwareswap is the best place to catch a deal IMO, and usually cheaper since you don't pay the ebay-tax.
 
lower your expectations or lower your settings. you can still enjoy a game even with raytracing turned off if you needed to.
 
if you can settle for a 3060 for some of these systems, you'd be perfectly fine with a 2070 or 2070S since they perform similarly.
 
if you can settle for a 3060ti for some of these systems, you'd be perfectly fine with a 2080 or 2080S since they perform similarly.
 
if you can settle for a 3070 for some of these system, you'd be perfectly fine with a 2080ti since they perform similarly (actually the 2080ti is a bit better here, and has more VRAM and more mem bandwidth).

I don't buy used cards.  20xx new cards are not 500-700 dollars.
And I don't have to lower my expectations or settings.  What a silly thing to say.

nomoss
I don't buy used cards.  20xx new cards are not 500-700 dollars.
And I don't have to lower my expectations or settings.  What a silly thing to say.

 
or keep whining that you can't get what you "need" lol. keep scoffing at "used gpus" while those of us with sense are fulfilling our needs and moving on with life.
 
 

nomoss
I build systems for friends and family.  I put the 3070 I got off the queue into my wife's new build.  My own gaming computer died so I need a 30/70/80/90 for my next build.  My godson wants a budget build so I need a 3060 or Ti for that build.  My brother in-law wants a mid-range system so I need a 3070 for that build.  My buddy makes video games and does graphic arts so he wants a 3090.  My daughter plays minecraft and wants an RTX card for ray-tracing, so I need a Ti for her.

I'm not at all a fan of the 1 SKU per household because frankly, I would have bought 5 of the 3070s when I got my notify and been done looking for anything other than a 90.  But I understand that EVGA is doing what they can to limit the abuse of the system.  

But I'll buy every single card they notify me of, because if it doesn't work for the system builds I already have planned, it will be needed for the next batch of builds I take on.  If that makes someone mad because I got into all of the queues I could use before them, oh well.

kk...and this guy "NEEDS" PS5s for his friend, uncle, aunt, brother, sister, coworker, wetnurse...
 
https://i.imgur.com/ba8DJSq.jpg

nick_shl

stoney77788

Bora1114You were originally correct. The hash rate began rising in Jan 2020, and accelerated in Aug/sept when nvidia started selling directly to miners. It then accelerated again in Dec. He is only showing 3 months.

Ya should show the chart from Jan 20 to now. Shows steady thru first part of last year then it going up right there end of July beginning of Aug 20 and continuing to now.

He wasn't correct. All my calculations are correct: hash rate never was more than 300 TH/s before 2021!

I never said it was above 300, I said it started going up before you said it did, but its ok you obviously in this situation have to be 100% correct and no one else hense having to use bold on  "my calculations are correct".
Please make sure you understand what I said. I was correct in my statement that the hashrate was climbing before Jan 21. It was clearly as you can see on your own chart that it started going up as early as April of 2020. Slowly I admit but it was trending up. It spiked up towards the end of last year and again in January of this year.
 

Flintheart Glomgold
Update on the Best Buy situation:
 
My buddy called the line twice, the first time the guy was rather rude he said and wanted more data than he would give. The second time he just had to give and order number. The order was flagged because he reset his password right after he made the order.

So the gpu is still on the way right? Glad to hear someone got through the BB gauntlet, congrats to your buddy!

nick_shl

stoney77788

Bora1114You were originally correct. The hash rate began rising in Jan 2020, and accelerated in Aug/sept when nvidia started selling directly to miners. It then accelerated again in Dec. He is only showing 3 months.

Ya should show the chart from Jan 20 to now. Shows steady thru first part of last year then it going up right there end of July beginning of Aug 20 and continuing to now.

He wasn't correct. All my calculations are correct: hash rate never was more than 300 TH/s before 2021!

He was correct. You are just making up an argument to argue against. 

stoney77788I never said it was above 300, I said it started going up before you said it did

I never said that it did not started going up before 2021. Actually I said exactly opposite: "In Jan 21 hash rate reached 295 TH/s. Now hash rate is 413 TH/s".



 

nick_shl

stoney77788I never said it was above 300, I said it started going up before you said it did

I never said that it did not started going up before 2021. Actually I said exactly opposite: "In Jan 21 hash rate reached 295 TH/s. Now hash rate is 413 TH/s".



 

I am done other things to do and better use of this thread you have twisted and misunderstood everything I have said up to this point. Good luck to you and if you haven't gotten a card hope you do soon. 

gsrcrxsi

nomoss
I don't buy used cards.  20xx new cards are not 500-700 dollars.
And I don't have to lower my expectations or settings.  What a silly thing to say.

 
or keep whining that you can't get what you "need" lol. keep scoffing at "used gpus" while those of us with sense are fulfilling our needs and moving on with life.
 
 

Agree, used electronic goods are great value.  I myself bought an used gpu.  At this time there is no point in going for brand new stuff when its availability is less & price is high.   More or less these are asks not needs.  I have decided that 60fps on medium settings is good for time being, no point in paying more and fill the companies pockets, that extra money is worth used else where.

Armathyx

nomoss

gsrcrxsi
 
"need" lol. you dont NEED any of the cards mentioned and you could likely more easily satisfy your goals with previous gen RTX 20 series or GTX 16 series cards. you WANT the new gen.
 
no one NEEDs a gaming GPU.

GTX 16 cards don't support ray tracing and 20xx cards don't do it well.
Why would I pay 20xx prices for cards that don't perform as well?  

To be fair you only mentionned one of your systems needing RTX (for Minecraft). He's got a point, you don't need a RTX 30 series for a budget build, but then again it is your money and you do whatever you want with it.
 
However in times like these many of us are in the same situation as you, so why would you be made an exception?

Never said I wanted an exception.  I clearly said I understood why EVGA was limited the SKUs.  My comment was in response to an earlier poster who was whining about people being in the queues for multiple cards.

Every system build I'm doing is built around 30xx cards.  That's the choice of the people they are being built for.  And we're all patiently waiting.  

I don't put used cards into builds I do for people because if it fails they blame me.  Warranties protect them as the users and me as the builder.

What I find really funny is that gsrwhatever is starting silly arguments with everyone here and on numerous other threads while he's already bought a 3060 and a 3070 and simultaneously telling me that I should move on with my life instead of getting a new card with a warranty.  

But if arguing about it makes people happy, to each their own, I guess.

stoney77788Good luck to you and if you haven't gotten a card hope you do soon.

I do, but not one I want. I want EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 08G-P5-3667-KR because of cool 3 fan look and performance or EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC BLACK GAMING, 12G-P5-3655-KR because of price. But was lucky enough only to get overpriced(lets forget about shortage) 12G-P5-3657-KR.

order2chaos
12G-P5-3655-KR 2/25/2021 9:02:01 AM PT Yes
 
Just received my notification for the $329 base model 3060, so looks like the queue is moving forward with new stock.  

Congratulations and thanks for reporting back to the thread!  It is appreciated.