drpoor

jbaysingar
I've seen "MSRP" used a few times in this thread to mean the low-end target price point for an entire product line (ex. $699.99 for 3080), and while I really don't enjoy being "that guy," I'd hate to see it lead to confusion when discussing prices.
 
MSRP is not a single all-encompassing target price point for all cards in a product line. In the case of 3080, MSRP does not mean $699.99 for every card. MSRP is the suggested price for each product as set by manufacturers like EVGA. Each card variant (aka SKU) has it's own MSRP (ex. while the MSRP for the 3080 Founder's Edition is $699.99, the MSRP for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra is $809.99, XC3 Ultra is $769.99, etc.).  So when when people have been saying nVidia requires AIB manufacturers to offer a 3080 card "at MSRP," what they actually mean to say is that nVidia requires them to offer a 3080 card with an MSRP of $699.99 (although EVGA cheated a little bit by setting an MSRP of $729.99 for the 3080 XC3 Black, but then initially offering it for $30 off until they met the required quota).
 
I just don't want people thinking that "MSRP" means $699.99 for all 3080s because then when someone mentions something like B&H offering the Asus 3080 TUF OC for $50 over MSRP, they might be confused as to why that's overpriced because they think that means $749.99, when it actually means $799.99, or think that an $809.99 3080 FTW3 Ultra is $110 over MSRP when it's not - it's exactly MSRP.
 
I will now await my rightly deserved beating for being "that guy."

No, MSRP is set by NVIDIA. The msrp for a 3080 is $699. If EVGA(or any board partner) wants to put a lift kit on the card or some fat rims and call it a "FTW" edition, that does not change MSRP. I am not suggesting that NVIDIA board partners are going overboard with AIB pricing. Looking at what EVGA is planning on charging for Hydrocoppers, I would say that is pretty fair. Looking at what Powercolor is charging for Red Devils, I would say that is bordering on scalping. No need to muddy the waters. MSRP is what it is and should be the baseline to judge what AIB's are charging.

viper809
Goodnight to all and lets hope tomorrow thursday is a great day! they usually are!

GrandestFinale
Oh dear sweet God, I think karma just decided to bite me. GPU just died out of nowhere (everything else is powering on but my Aorus RX 580's fans aren't spinning and I know it's not a cable issue because the little light on the side of the card indicating a lack of power would be blazing at me), leaving me without my rig. Glad I've got my laptop! It was a used one from eBay so sadly I might've been duped into getting a mining card, that at least gave me a year and a month before crapping out.

I really need that queue to pop now...

GrandestFinale
Oh dear sweet God, I think karma just decided to bite me. GPU just died out of nowhere (everything else is powering on but my Aorus RX 580's fans aren't spinning and I know it's not a cable issue because the little light on the side of the card indicating a lack of power would be blazing at me), leaving me without my rig. Glad I've got my laptop! It was a used one from eBay so sadly I might've been duped into getting a mining card, that at least gave me a year and a month before crapping out.

I really need that queue to pop now...

GrandestFinale
Yeah, karma's got a way of biting me when I've been a petulant little child in an otherwise civilized thread, eh? I've learned my lesson, and I really hope it's only the GPU dead on me because I am NOT skilled enough to diagnose finer details. That's what it looks like for now though.
 
Just in case though, I saw this listing for new EVGA 1070s on Amazon. Can these be used for stepup fodder?
 
I'm at the point where I genuinely might not be able to wait for the queue to hit me, that 580 was my first and ONLY card (this rig's technically still my first, aside from the upgraded CPU, cooler and case)!

Dabadger84

Litorth
 
Can we PM each other on this forum? Might be able to help...

You have to have a certain number of posts to be able to use PMs, not sure how many it is - it's an anti-spambot measure.

coldrain85

rsaylors
Depends.

Are people buying various SKUs because they are interested in the engendered differences that seem to justify their price difference - or are people buying anything they can get their hands on and the higher price is acting functionally as an increase in MSRP?

I for one would be happy to pay 800 for a water cooled solution - and don’t care about chip binning. This means I’m getting a deal if I get the 3888 and paying more than I would if products were available if I get the 3898.

In either case I would be very happy to get a 3080 that I’m officially not paying a scalper for. My 3070 is falling short of an acceptable frame rate in Cyber Punk on my ultra wide.

I'm buying any 3080 that I can get my hands on at this point. I passed on an air cooled 3080 in November when the hydro copper was announced, but then it got delayed and I got faked out as a result. My time stamp for the air cooled had already come and gone by then. Once I realized that I would have to spend another $400+ to get a decent tube kit, my infatuation with the HC ended pretty abruptly. Not having any other options, I got back in the queue for the air cooled on 12/3 knowing that it was hopeless since the queue for that card has barely advanced from the 9/17 launch date. It's in the 8am hour of 9/18 at the moment. Soon after that, I had a shot at buying a 3090 XC hybrid and could have had it in hand by now, but I don't want to spend that much on a card. I'm not a developer, I don't need that much VRAM. As of now I'm chasing a 3080 FTW Hybrid. If I get a buy link for it I am getting it without question. No more ******* around. However, as I mentioned above, if a 3080ti is announced before I get the hybrid I will likely go that way. I would rather have that than a 3080HC and an overpriced tube kit.

Dabadger84

joshcran77
My boss pulled me into a surprise meeting 4 minutes before the 3080 Hybrid notify went live. I brought my computer but couldn't load the webpage. Eventually got in on my phone at 9:17. So I am not expecting a 3080 Hybrid anytime soon. Now that the 3080Ti is more confirmed than it once was, I might grab something now and step up in Feb/March. And that means I might not have to pay for a 3090...

Won't be that long, the queue was barely functional for several minutes after 9AM, very few people got in it before that I think, though there are a few that got in at very early times, bulk of the entries started around 7-8 minutes after.  I waited til 24mins past because I'm not in a huge hurry to debating the finer details of going to a 3080 Hybrid or keeping what I have.

whiskeygreg
Good morning, folks! I hope we see that new queue moving today. I'm at 9:09:39 yesterday. 6 and a half minutes away!
 
Cheers

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whiskeygreg
Good morning, folks! I hope we see that new queue moving today. I'm at 9:09:39 yesterday. 6 and a half minutes away!
 
Cheers

I hope it moves some today as well! I’m at 9:09:10