mlippold

dmoheban

mlippold

Balthazor
Running the Extreme pre-set, I am seeing a 10% drop in my GPU score using the 51 vs. S61J.  I rolled back to S61J.

I couldn't detect any particular setting that would account for this lower GPU score; from what I could tell the PCI-E slots were running at x16 2.0, and everything else was configured the same between the two BIOSes.  Weird.

Yeah both of us had that same behavior with 49 but for some reason this time with 51 I'm running fine.   I ran the Performance presets in 3DMark and also Extreme and they both resulted in similar results that I'd gotten from S61J.    I did have to end up bumping up my CPU vcore two notches higher than what it was in S61J to get everything perfectly stable.

Do you happen to recall what I told you my Extreme performance was when I ran it that time?   Funny thing is, I think I have an even better result than I had back then (I think I was on 10.2 ATI drivers which should be able to the same speed as the 10.3a drivers I'm using right now).   My score from just a few minutes ago on Extreme is X28043.

So your saying that bios 51 has a faster SLI performance score than 49 bios?

 

I have to wait to see if Balthazor has the PM I was talking to him in, I don't remember what the score I had for the Extreme mode but I'm fairly sure I'm higher than what it was before with S61J.     The Performance mode test in 3DMark Vantage was almost exactly the same to S61J.   


Both Balthazar and myself had horrible speeds with 49, it was at least 10 percent lower in any 3DMark Vantage mode than what it was in S61J.   

You never sent me your extreme benchmark results, just your overall performance result, which was like 37000.
 
My extreme benchmark, with 5970s at stock using S61J, is 22k (for GPU).  Your score sounds about right due to the higher clocks you're running. 
 
When I run the 51 BIOS, my GPU score drops to 20k using the extreme benchmark.  No idea why, but I don't like it.

EVGA_JacobF

The last BIOS update had some issues with VT on some setups, this BIOS reverts back to the old method before these issues were introduced.

Only downside is the system will reboot once with VT enabled.

Guess if I want VT with out risking $800 in HDDs I will have to go all the way back to S61D. This is ridiculous that I have to go back 6 revisions to get a some what proper BIOS. I say some what because by going to the 61D I will end up with the 2TB array limit in the RAID BIOS now.

Please quit with all these minor and pointless updates and actually FIX the damn issues properly like they need to be.

Since going to a EVGA Board from a long line of Abit boards I was happy to see frequent BIOS updates provided unlike Abit. Now though I am getting irritated just like with Abit for the fact each new release is broken and keeps braking more parts of the system.

While I am happy with the hardware features and board layouts EVGA has. After this mess with the BIOS it is making me reconsider other manufacturers for future builds. It also makes me question if I should recommend your boards to others looking to build a system.

*UPDATE* Well after going back to 61D a BIOS I never had a double pump issue in before and even trying the 61B BIOS. I was surprised to see that those BIOS now had the double pump issue also where they didn't before. I don't know what the EVGA devs have done but this is annoying.

So for now I am back on 49 since i don't feel like risking $800 in HDDs and 3.53TB of data. Also for some odd reason VT is now working after re-flashing the 49 for a 3rd time. How long that will last I don't know, But this just show that the EVGA devs NEED to spend more time into fixing these issues and not releasing pointless updates. *UPDATE*

I'm extremely sour about not having the 1.5x multipliers for uncore. =o\

mlippold

Balthazor

You never sent me your extreme benchmark results, just your overall performance result, which was like 37000.
 
My extreme benchmark, with 5970s at stock using S61J, is 22k (for GPU).  Your score sounds about right due to the higher clocks you're running. 
 
When I run the 51 BIOS, my GPU score drops to 20k using the extreme benchmark.  No idea why, but I don't like it.

Darn, I thought I'd PM'd it to you.    Well for what it is worth, when I submitted the Extreme result it was showing a fair amount higher than the last Extreme result I'd submitted (which was about 2 or 2 1/2 weeks prior) so I *think* I had the better performing ATI drivers at that point (Pretty much from 10.2 or higher has been around the same speed for me).    
 
I'm still curious (since our builds are so close to each other) why mine is acting normal now and yours is not.    If you are bored you can try to duplicate how I flashed mine to see if it matters.  For the BIOS update this time I rebooted into the BIOS.   Reset to defaults and saved it, rebooted and held the escape key and loaded up my USB drive.    Flashed the 51 bios.   Rebooted and went into the BIOS.   Reset to defaults and saved it, then rebooted.   From there I configured it how I normally do.
 
As I mentiond prior as well I had to bump up my CPU vcore voltage two notches to be completely stable in Linx (I use without VDroop if that matters).
 

 
I tried 51 again, loading the defaults the same way you describe, except I used an ISO instead of USB flash.  Same result - inconsistent, but lower GPU benchmarks, ranging from 18750 to 21000 in the extreme preset.  I get a consistent 22000 using the S61J BIOS.  CPU score is completely unaffected by the BIOS, only the GPU score is affected.
 
I tried enabling and disabling VT, and reinstalling the intel chipset drivers, but no change.  So I just rolled back to S61J again.  I still couldn't detect any setting that would account for the lower GPU score; the cards were running at full x16 2.0 speeds, so it wasn't that.

Balthazor

mlippold

Balthazor

You never sent me your extreme benchmark results, just your overall performance result, which was like 37000.
 
My extreme benchmark, with 5970s at stock using S61J, is 22k (for GPU).  Your score sounds about right due to the higher clocks you're running. 
 
When I run the 51 BIOS, my GPU score drops to 20k using the extreme benchmark.  No idea why, but I don't like it.

Darn, I thought I'd PM'd it to you.    Well for what it is worth, when I submitted the Extreme result it was showing a fair amount higher than the last Extreme result I'd submitted (which was about 2 or 2 1/2 weeks prior) so I *think* I had the better performing ATI drivers at that point (Pretty much from 10.2 or higher has been around the same speed for me).    
 
I'm still curious (since our builds are so close to each other) why mine is acting normal now and yours is not.    If you are bored you can try to duplicate how I flashed mine to see if it matters.  For the BIOS update this time I rebooted into the BIOS.   Reset to defaults and saved it, rebooted and held the escape key and loaded up my USB drive.    Flashed the 51 bios.   Rebooted and went into the BIOS.   Reset to defaults and saved it, then rebooted.   From there I configured it how I normally do.
 
As I mentiond prior as well I had to bump up my CPU vcore voltage two notches to be completely stable in Linx (I use without VDroop if that matters).
 

 
I tried 51 again, loading the defaults the same way you describe, except I used an ISO instead of USB flash.  Same result - inconsistent, but lower GPU benchmarks, ranging from 18750 to 21000 in the extreme preset.  I get a consistent 22000 using the S61J BIOS.  CPU score is completely unaffected by the BIOS, only the GPU score is affected.
 
I tried enabling and disabling VT, and reinstalling the intel chipset drivers, but no change.  So I just rolled back to S61J again.  I still couldn't detect any setting that would account for the lower GPU score; the cards were running at full x16 2.0 speeds, so it wasn't that.

Wierd indeed.   I guess I'll check for consistency in my Extreme score and see what happens.   I might end up rolling back just for the vcore voltage alone if the performance is about the same as before.

Well I was hoping this release would fix the XPM Profile of setting the ram speed when I use an i7 930, but it didn't.

kram36

Well I was hoping this release would fix the XPM Profile of setting the ram speed when I use an i7 930, but it didn't.

Yea....EVGA has a lot of work ahead of them to get these bios right....

Anyone know if the Nahelem Turbo mode bug has been fixed for a 920 D0? I mean if I set Turbo mode on and Performance mode off will the multipliers still go crazy?

I have to say I am not having any issues with this bios other than no S3, but I think I am just going to have to live with out that. Today I hit a stable 4 ghz overclock for the first time, and she feels like she has more, but with the h50 I am hitting 80c temps with linx so I think i may just leave it there.

rody

dmoheban

Anyone know if the Nahelem Turbo mode bug has been fixed for a 920 D0? I mean if I set Turbo mode on and Performance mode off will the multipliers still go crazy?

there is an option under cpu features, i think it is CxE or something like that, disable that and the multiplier should not jump around anymore.

rody

I downloaded the iso but it's empty. What's that?

wcrf08

I'm about to change my Xeon W3520 champ for an i7 980x.

What bios do you guys recommend??

My Classified is the 759-A1.

Thank you.

 
If you do not use VT, then bios 49 is the best so far.

49 is the best for the new processor,.

The way the iso is created you won't see anything and really have no reason to see anything. Just burn the iso with win7 burn and there you go. I fell to understand why ppl feel they have to open it up before burning. It's not a bad download. It's just the way the file is created.

expedision

wcrf08

I'm about to change my Xeon W3520 champ for an i7 980x.

What bios do you guys recommend??

My Classified is the 759-A1.

Thank you.

 
If you do not use VT, then bios 49 is the best so far.

hmm I don't and my board was flashed to 49 right before I sold my 920. My 980X will be here shortly today