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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 15:35:03 (permalink)
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New PX1 is live that has a couple of updates for Kingpin card www.evga.com/px1

And I just did a complete clean up 
Thanks for update  
 The PUMP on the OLED Now Reads RAD
 
Improved Compatibility with EVGA Z10 Keyboard
 
Before you change settings in PX1 but after the Firmware is updated Power All Down.
 Make Sure your Power Down your Computer and turn off your Power Supply and Monitor  
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 16:31:09 (permalink)
Yes actually we cannot read the Pump RPM so that reporting was incorrect. We have fixed it now, it should be the radiator fanspeed.


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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 16:53:43 (permalink)
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You'll be happier with the ftw3. Install, play with the evga px1 software to set up the fans to your liking and play games.

For someone new the kingpin would be overkill and way too complex to fool around with.

I'd say skip the hybrid version as the single fan rad really isint up to the task. The stock fan cooler on the ftw3 is great and quiet enough at full speed fans to not bother you with headphones on.

I bought a 2080ti ftw hybrid from amazon, and when it came, I had noticed that someone opened the box and replaced it with a 1080 hybrid. Now that I'm in the process of returning it, I had learned that the kingpin was about to be released again and am reconsidering my options. The intention of my build is threefold- video editing, voice recording/audio streaming/podcasting, and potentially, in the future, game streaming.
 
Two things that are important to me are lack of noise (for recording) and the potential for overclocking. I purchased a i9 intel 9900k with the intention that I was likely eventually going to be overclocking it after I got settled in my groove and learned more about computers and overclocking. Similarly, with the graphics card, I am anticipating overclocking potential in the future. The hybrid made sense to me because I thought it would lead to more silent operating volume while recording/streaming. How I am reasoning the graphic card decision is that I am expecting many years of use, with the overclocking potential I am hoping to squeeze a few more years of use before obsolesces settles in. This is why I was considering the kingpin over reordering the 2080ti ftw. I don't know how to compare the potential between the cards and am hoping that you can fill me in. Thanks for the read.
 
Thoughts on everything?


Then buy the kingpin and know you got the best.. and I will be better for cooling and silence. Hit or miss on the ftw3 hybrid rad.. as plenty have reported noisy pumps.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 17:49:57 (permalink)
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Then buy the kingpin and know you got the best.. and I will be better for cooling and silence. Hit or miss on the ftw3 hybrid rad.. as plenty have reported noisy pumps.



Is the kingpin silent or does it need to be custom looped? Also, how am I supposed to measure for chassis choice? the kingpin's measurement don't include the tubing. Is that correct?
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 18:10:23 (permalink)
Sealed unit. Buy and install.. call evga for measurements would be best.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 18:13:02 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 19:25:51 (permalink)
Hi, everyone. First post on the forums. I have a quick question regarding the EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Kingpin Edition vs. the EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Ultra 3 FTW.
 
I already own the Ultra 3 FTW and love it. I can stably overclock the memory to 8300Mhz, and I can push 2070MHz-2100MHz Mhz on the core. Temps are well within range.
 
My question is, around how much more performance should I expect to receive, particularly in terms of overclocking gains, with the Kingpin Edition vs. what I'm currently receiving with my Ultra 3 FTW? I remember skimming an article around a month or so ago and the headline read something like "RTX 2080 Ti Kingpin Hits 2700 Mhz OC," but reading further explained that this was done with LN2.
 
Although that article was written a few months ago using prototype hardware, I can't imagine the Kingpin edition is capable of reaching clock speeds too much higher than what I'm seeing now with my FTW 3 Ultra (unless exotic cooling is being used.)
 
For the record, I'm probably never going to cool any video card with LN2 (unless EVGA figures out a way to bring a consumer-friendly AIO LN2 solution to the consumer market ), but I might eventually install an open loop with my Ryzen 3000 build (currently using a 6700k with a Corsair AIO cooler.) 
 
Thanks for any and all insight/advice in advance! 


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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 19:42:18 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 20:40:02 (permalink)
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Welcome and both the FTW3 and the KPE are great cards. Choose the KPE if you like to tweak your hardware and benchmark or stick with the FTW3 if you want excellent OOTB gaming perf.
 
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I did not get as far as I had planned but here are some pics of the "Dark KPE" bench I am putting together for this weekends HOF attempt runs. Plan is to baseline liquid on CPU and KPE stock CLC + IPPC  3000RPM fans and then move on to subzero.
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 20:56:10 (permalink)
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Is that ?

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 21:13:51 (permalink)
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Will either of you please explain it to me like I'm 15? I am new to building computers, and I don't know the significance of the differences. At this point, I can differentiate numbers and watch videos on test benches. I'm deciding between the 2080ti ftw vs the kingpin and the stats look very similar.
 
Out of the box stock they look very similar, except for the kingpin has an extra fan, larger radiator, and slighting different numbers, and overclocking I know very little about.
 
What are the differences? Why are people excited? How are the cards different when overclocked?

I would really recommend EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2484-KR, 11GB GDDR6, RGB LED Logo & iCX2 Technology - 9 Thermal Sensors or the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER GAMING, 11G-P4-2489-KR, 11GB GDDR6, RGB LED & iCX2 Technology - 9 Thermal Sensors over the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N GAMING, 11G-P4-2589-KR, 11GB GDDR6, iCX2 & OLED for your use and being "new to building computers".
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 22:23:26 (permalink)
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Welcome to the Forum 

 
Thanks! :)
 
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Welcome and both the FTW3 and the KPE are great cards. Choose the KPE if you like to tweak your hardware and benchmark or stick with the FTW3 if you want excellent OOTB gaming perf.

 
Thanks for the reply. Do you (or anyone else reading this with knowledge of the Kingpin cards) think it's possible to push the core up into the 2250MHz/2300MHz with some tinkering and the default AIO cooling? Also, for the memory, is it possible to push it up near 8500Mhz?
 
My last question is how much harder can the Kingpin Edition be pushed when cooled with an open loop vs. the default AIO cooling solution from EVGA? 
 
As great a card as it is, I feel like power limitations ultimately leave performance on the table with the FTW 3 Ultra. The Kingpin Edition overcomes that limitation, but I'm just wondering if the increased performance is going to to be noticeable (aside from synthetic benchmarks). In short, how far (ballpark figures) can I push the Kingpin Edition out of the box without LN2 cooling. 
 
Thanks for any and all replies! :)


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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 22:40:32 (permalink)
Here's one of the KPE cards tested before, taken from KPE guide:


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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 23:02:31 (permalink)
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Here's one of the KPE cards tested before, taken from :




Awesome information. Thanks, TiN! 


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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/24 23:28:30 (permalink)
Interesting and informative chart, dunno how I missed that when looking through the KPE guide. Assuming most perform pretty similarly, it looks like the limit is going to be around 2250mhz in an open-loop setting and getting beyond that will require sub-ambient cooling. I was hoping for 2300mhz in an open-loop setting, oh well... can't win'em all.


 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 01:17:08 (permalink)
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If you want a quiet card I strongly recommend looking at techpowerup and guru3d for reviews because they properly test all the cards for noise and give you a decibel measurement.
According to them the Asus Strix with quiet bios is the quietest 2080 ti.
E.g. 35 % fan @74 C. My last air cooled card needed 60-65% for that temp. They're probably qiueter than a hybrid because they have some rad fan and pump noise.
If you prefer not to use Asus then any hybrid would be good and I'd choose them over the ftw3 air for noise.
(If you did get the ftw3 air cooled card you could probably lower the fan speeds and still get decent temps which could make it quieter.)
Like some people have already said, the kingpin would be a great card to have but it's probably not worth the extra money for most people just for gaming. (I still want one!).
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 02:46:38 (permalink)
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Welcome to the Forum 

 
Thanks! :)
 
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Welcome and both the FTW3 and the KPE are great cards. Choose the KPE if you like to tweak your hardware and benchmark or stick with the FTW3 if you want excellent OOTB gaming perf.

 
Thanks for the reply. Do you (or anyone else reading this with knowledge of the Kingpin cards) think it's possible to push the core up into the 2250MHz/2300MHz with some tinkering and the default AIO cooling? Also, for the memory, is it possible to push it up near 8500Mhz?
 
My last question is how much harder can the Kingpin Edition be pushed when cooled with an open loop vs. the default AIO cooling solution from EVGA? 
 
As great a card as it is, I feel like power limitations ultimately leave performance on the table with the FTW 3 Ultra. The Kingpin Edition overcomes that limitation, but I'm just wondering if the increased performance is going to to be noticeable (aside from synthetic benchmarks). In short, how far (ballpark figures) can I push the Kingpin Edition out of the box without LN2 cooling. 
 
Thanks for any and all replies! :)


Beyond a certain point additional clock speed on memory doesn’t even affect gaming performance. Same for core clock speeds.

I’m always skeptical of people who claim stable +1200 memory overclocks across all games or applications they use, even with a higher end card. Maybe my card or the games I play are just finicky, but even with my Kingpin I had to back off on my memory overclocks a bit for daily driving. Benching is a different story, though.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 04:44:02 (permalink)
@SilverStacker2019 The KPE 2080 ti is made for the hardcore overclocker who need the absolute best card they can get to squeeze every last bit of power out it to set records and get the highest scores in benchmarks. Then there are people like me that will never use this card to it’s full potential but enjoy knowing that I have the best card on the market. EVGA made this card for us lowly gamers as well by including an AIO cooler. As far as the price difference goes, it’s all about premium components on the card. Hand picked GPU and memory chips combined with a custom PCB completely remove the normal “Silicon Lottery” component that we face when selecting a lower price card.

If you truly are new to building computers this may not be the card for you. But if you are fortunate enough to be able to afford this card it gives you the ability to join the big boys in the benchmarking game should you decide to down the road. It also allows you to push higher stable overclocks for gaming than your average card with the premium components mentioned above which is my entire justification for owning this card. I put off upgrading from the 1080 ti until now just for this reason and I am happy with my decision. Hopefully this helps clear things up for you. My use case for this card is probably much closer to yours than to the majority of the folks in this thread so I figured I would chime in.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 06:44:08 (permalink)
As I said.. my ftw3 ran at 2205 for benches and 2190mhz for gaming at 36-39c max while benching and games if it hit 40c at times it would drop to 2175. Hitting the power limit is all that bothered me durring benching. Cause of that I'd get lower scores. I would need to drop the clock to 2145mhz to mostly stay under the power limit of the card and end up with 300+ higher benches.

I guess I was spoiled way back when with the 1080 classified that had a high enough power limit and the clocks would not drop period.

I plan to add many rads this time over the 480 rad to keep the temps as close as possible to my room temps which at times can get to 64f!

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 06:52:58 (permalink)
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As I said.. my ftw3 ran at 2205 for benches and 2190mhz for gaming at 36-39c max while benching and games if it hit 40c at times it would drop to 2175. Hitting the power limit is all that bothered me durring benching. Cause of that I'd get lower scores. I would need to drop the clock to 2145mhz to mostly stay under the power limit of the card and end up with 300+ higher benches.

I guess I was spoiled way back when with the 1080 classified that had a high enough power limit and the clocks would not drop period.

I plan to add many rads this time over the 480 rad to keep the temps as close as possible to my room temps which at times can get to 64f!


Lol dude, since when is 64 degrees Fahrenheit room temperature considered warm? That’s proverbial ice box level temperatures and it gets super hot and humid where I live. The room my rig is in currently will easily get to 74-75 F if I’m in there playing games for a long time.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 07:37:50 (permalink)
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As I said.. my ftw3 ran at 2205 for benches and 2190mhz for gaming at 36-39c max while benching and games if it hit 40c at times it would drop to 2175. Hitting the power limit is all that bothered me durring benching. Cause of that I'd get lower scores. I would need to drop the clock to 2145mhz to mostly stay under the power limit of the card and end up with 300+ higher benches.

I guess I was spoiled way back when with the 1080 classified that had a high enough power limit and the clocks would not drop period.

I plan to add many rads this time over the 480 rad to keep the temps as close as possible to my room temps which at times can get to 64f!


Lol dude, since when is 64 degrees Fahrenheit room temperature considered warm? That’s proverbial ice box level temperatures and it gets super hot and humid where I live. The room my rig is in currently will easily get to 74-75 F if I’m in there playing games for a long time.


Gota get you a basement and dehumidifier!

Cant wait to when I can crank the air and the basement gets even colder. I already gota wear a sweat jacket.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 08:27:17 (permalink)
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As I said.. my ftw3 ran at 2205 for benches and 2190mhz for gaming at 36-39c max while benching and games if it hit 40c at times it would drop to 2175. Hitting the power limit is all that bothered me durring benching. Cause of that I'd get lower scores. I would need to drop the clock to 2145mhz to mostly stay under the power limit of the card and end up with 300+ higher benches.

I guess I was spoiled way back when with the 1080 classified that had a high enough power limit and the clocks would not drop period.

I plan to add many rads this time over the 480 rad to keep the temps as close as possible to my room temps which at times can get to 64f!


Lol dude, since when is 64 degrees Fahrenheit room temperature considered warm? That’s proverbial ice box level temperatures and it gets super hot and humid where I live. The room my rig is in currently will easily get to 74-75 F if I’m in there playing games for a long time.


Gota get you a basement and dehumidifier!

Cant wait to when I can crank the air and the basement gets even colder. I already gota wear a sweat jacket.



Ya hitting the powerlimit and watching clocks jump all over the place is bothersome. Really hated it when I got my first Pascal.
 
Good thing there is a RTX 2080 TI KPE

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 08:55:53 (permalink)
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Good thing there is a RTX 2080 TI KPE

I am now seeing 408-422 Watts

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 09:05:02 (permalink)
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Gota get you a basement and dehumidifier!

Cant wait to when I can crank the air and the basement gets even colder. I already gota wear a sweat jacket.


No basements at all here dude! lol

Has anyone fiddled with the XOC BIOS yet?
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 09:05:09 (permalink)
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Good thing there is a RTX 2080 TI KPE

I am now seeing 408-422 Watts


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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 11:16:38 (permalink)
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19156621/fs/19156641/fs/19155644
I am seeing 422Watts GPU 2220MHz and Memory 2140 MHz but not yet toping the Scores.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 12:14:16 (permalink)
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https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19156621/fs/19156641/fs/19155644
I am seeing 422Watts GPU 2220MHz and Memory 2140 MHz but not yet toping the Scores.


Wheres your bottleneck?

My past score 30950 and graphic score of 39534

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19097982

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 12:41:58 (permalink)
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Wheres your bottleneck?

My past score 30950 and graphic score of 39534

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19097982

Well being you no longer own that card your score is now null.
39,534  40,537 + 2.5 % But you have no FTW3 Card to Beat this Graphics Score now.
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19097982/fs/19130948
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 12:47:18 (permalink)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/35654899
 
Not bad for my FTW3.  Just got her delivered a couple hours ago so haven't had much time to tweak yet.  

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/25 12:49:27 (permalink)
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Wheres your bottleneck?

My past score 30950 and graphic score of 39534

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19097982

Well being you no longer own that card your score is now null.
39,534  40,537 + 2.5 % But you have no FTW3 Card to Bet this Graphics Score.
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19097982/fs/19130948


Sorry I own the score! That's all mine. It's in my results list haha. And it will be topped when I score that kingpin.. and after I sell the card year or 2 later that score will still be mine.

Intel i9 9900K @ 5.2Ghz Single HUGE Custom Water Loop.
Asus Z390 ROG Extreme XI MB
G.Skill Trident Z 32GB (4x8GB) 4266MHz DDR4 
EVGA 2080ti K|NGP|N w/ Hydro Copper block.  
34" Dell Alienware AW3418DW 1440 Ultra Wide GSync Monitor
Thermaltake Core P7 Modded w/ 2x EK Dual D5 pump top,2 x EK XE 480 2X 360 rads.1 Corsair 520 Rad.
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