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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/02/01 12:33:28 (permalink)
You just pull it out and install new one - with your fingers :) Very easy operation.

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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/02/01 17:14:38 (permalink)
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Hello, thanks for sharing.  Just wondering how easy is it to swap? I have no experience changing circuitry/capacitors, unfortunately.


Never done it myself, but should be pretty easy from videos I've watched. It's a socket so just pull the old one out and put the new one in no soldering or anything. I think they even sell a little tool make removing easier.
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/02/14 18:12:46 (permalink)
This soundcard seems to be designed for audiophiles and considering most home stereo dac's are much more than $250. Rotel RDD-1580 $799 US, Schitt Audio Yggdrasil $2399 US, Bryston Audio BDA-3 $3495, dCS Debussy $11,999 US, Berkeley Audio Design Alpha DAC Reference Series 3 $22,000 US, this is very low cost dac...
 
Actually think this is alternative to stuff like Audioquest DragonFly Red $199 US, Project PreBox S2 Digital Dac/preamp $399, Schiit Bifrost $399.
 
Since you not paying for fancy cabinet, linear power supply supply it is only $250. Dac could be comparable to $400 -600 external DAC's, depending on how well the sata power connection keeps noisy digital power from typical PC power supply out of dac itself.
 
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/02/15 09:36:36 (permalink)
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Line out Op-amp swapped. I chose burson V5i-d amp. Sounds awesome now!

Looking at the V5i-D myself.

https://www.bursonaudio.com/products/supreme-sound-opamp-v5i/
Did you review the v6?
Or are they to big to use on the NU Audio Card?
https://www.bursonaudio.com/products/supreme-sound-opamp-v6/
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/02/15 23:14:10 (permalink)
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Line out Op-amp swapped. I chose burson V5i-d amp. Sounds awesome now!

Looking at the V5i-D myself.

https://www.bursonaudio.com/products/supreme-sound-opamp-v5i/
Did you review the v6?
Or are they to big to use on the NU Audio Card?
https://www.bursonaudio.com/products/supreme-sound-opamp-v6/




Taken from this page - https://www.bursonaudio.com/products/supreme-sound-opamp-v6/
 

Measuring 12.4mm X 14.5mm X 29mm (0.48 in x 0.57 in x 1.14 in) the V6 are the smallest discrete op-amps in the world. They conveniently fit wherever they’re used.

 
You would need to measure your NU Unit (Pun ) to see if it would fit under the cover without modifications


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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/02/16 13:16:37 (permalink)
Thanks and Great Pun

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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/02/16 14:04:47 (permalink)
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You just pull it out and install new one - with your fingers :) Very easy operation.



BTW you mentioned the Burson V6. You sure that'll work? It happens to be that a seller (that is authorized by the way) on Amazon is selling the V6 dual op amps. I'm no stranger to audio equipment but this will be the first time rolling op amps. So if I'm reading the specs right according the Burson site, the V6 can handle voltages as low as 3.5V to a max of 16.5V. The socket you put the V5i in is the 4.5V socket. If that works then that means I can put a V6 into the headphone socket too? That's the socket on the Nu Audio rated at 14.5V.
 
 
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/02/17 09:33:06 (permalink)
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You just pull it out and install new one - with your fingers :) Very easy operation.



BTW you mentioned the Burson V6. You sure that'll work? It happens to be that a seller (that is authorized by the way) on Amazon is selling the V6 dual op amps. I'm no stranger to audio equipment but this will be the first time rolling op amps. So if I'm reading the specs right according the Burson site, the V6 can handle voltages as low as 3.5V to a max of 16.5V. The socket you put the V5i in is the 4.5V socket. If that works then that means I can put a V6 into the headphone socket too? That's the socket on the Nu Audio rated at 14.5V.
 
 




EVGA NU OP-amps:
Headphone - ADI OP275
Line Out - ADI AD8056
 
Compatibility list from the Burson V6 page I linked above -
 

Dual Op-amps:
AD823, AD823AN, AD8066, AD8620, AD712, AD827, C4570, JRC4556AD, JRC4580, JRC5532, JRC5532D, JRC5534, LF353, LM4562, LME49860, LM833N, MUSES8920, NE5532, NEC4520, NEC4570, NJM2068D, NJM2114, NJM2214D, NJM4558, NJM4558D, NJM4560, NJM5532, NJM4558P, OP275, OPA1612, OPA2277PA, OPA2132, OPA2134, OPA2604, JRC4558, RC4558D, RC4558P, TL052, TL072, MUSES01, MUSES02, MUSES8820, MUSES8920, MUSES8832

 
So the dual OP-amps for the headphones are direct compatible but you would need to contact them about the AD8056 for compatibility
post edited by GGTV-Jon - 2019/02/17 09:35:55


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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/02/19 15:37:38 (permalink)
mac/linux support?
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: Why only 5.1 out on Optical 2019/02/20 08:59:27 (permalink)
Why only 5.1 over optical.
When will you have 9.2 over optical for new gaming games.
 
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: Why only 5.1 out on Optical 2019/02/20 13:15:50 (permalink)
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Why only 5.1 over optical.
When will you have 9.2 over optical for new gaming games.
 


Example of a game with 9.2 please


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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: Why only 5.1 out on Optical 2019/02/20 13:17:34 (permalink)
delete please - double post from my phone
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: Why only 5.1 out on Optical 2019/02/23 12:47:32 (permalink)
Will this card get Stereo mix like the majority of onboard and add in cards..Asus xonars for instance. I like this card for the ability to change op amps like the Xonar essence. But the lack of stereo mix is disappointing. 
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: Why only 5.1 out on Optical 2019/02/23 16:11:06 (permalink)
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Will this card get Stereo mix like the majority of onboard and add in cards..Asus xonars for instance. I like this card for the ability to change op amps like the Xonar essence. But the lack of stereo mix is disappointing. 


I'll have to check when I get back in on Monday.  I believe this is a feature that can be added, but I need to confirm that.  It's been one of the things I've asked to be put in, but it's not one of our top priorities at this time (we have some other nice stuff coming first).


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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: Why only 5.1 out on Optical 2019/02/25 02:16:48 (permalink)
I hope customers are satisfied.
I will help on other communities to people understand importance of dedicate sound cards.
Special enthusiasts who can afford high end audio but didn't done that and spent money on few keyboards, mouse, headphones and still used onboard audio. Difference is like Intel HD and NVIDIA GPU.
 
You don't need to spend money on expensive hi-fi solutions, amplifiers, speakers, etc...
Only pair of good active PC - Desktop Speakers. You can connect them to TV if you want or PC and connect to sound card like EVGA NU Audio.
 
I believe it's better than SBZxR and everything is on one board.
On SBZxR I need to use second board for Optical cable and than I must use bad cables to connect both parts of sound card.
 

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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/09 08:53:11 (permalink)
Hey guys - burson op-amp v6 is available on massdrop
 
Just check this thread: https://forums.evga.com/Burson-V6-opamp-on-massdrop-best-way-to-upgrade-Nu-Audio-opamp-m2931409.aspx



 
post edited by genghiskhanpl - 2019/03/09 08:56:07

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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/10 15:13:40 (permalink)
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You just pull it out and install new one - with your fingers :) Very easy operation.



BTW you mentioned the Burson V6. You sure that'll work? It happens to be that a seller (that is authorized by the way) on Amazon is selling the V6 dual op amps. I'm no stranger to audio equipment but this will be the first time rolling op amps. So if I'm reading the specs right according the Burson site, the V6 can handle voltages as low as 3.5V to a max of 16.5V. The socket you put the V5i in is the 4.5V socket. If that works then that means I can put a V6 into the headphone socket too? That's the socket on the Nu Audio rated at 14.5V.
 
 




EVGA NU OP-amps:
Headphone - ADI OP275
Line Out - ADI AD8056
 
Compatibility list from the Burson V6 page I linked above -
 

Dual Op-amps:
AD823, AD823AN, AD8066, AD8620, AD712, AD827, C4570, JRC4556AD, JRC4580, JRC5532, JRC5532D, JRC5534, LF353, LM4562, LME49860, LM833N, MUSES8920, NE5532, NEC4520, NEC4570, NJM2068D, NJM2114, NJM2214D, NJM4558, NJM4558D, NJM4560, NJM5532, NJM4558P, OP275, OPA1612, OPA2277PA, OPA2132, OPA2134, OPA2604, JRC4558, RC4558D, RC4558P, TL052, TL072, MUSES01, MUSES02, MUSES8820, MUSES8920, MUSES8832

 
So the dual OP-amps for the headphones are direct compatible but you would need to contact them about the AD8056 for compatibility




I checked with them and the AD8056 is compatible. They should add it to the list asap. 
 
I do wish EVGA had provisions for the Opamps in order to use the V6 from Burson. I went with the Muses02 instead. Not going to remove the cover like a representative at Burson suggested.
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/10 15:20:28 (permalink)
Might just need to get some plastic spacers and raise the cover to clear the Bursons.
I will hopefully have some in my hand in the next few weeks and will look at what is required for clearance without cutting holes


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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/10 15:41:20 (permalink)
Have you seen the V6? It's literally a tower. You won't be able to keep the cover on.

Now if someone at EVGA will tell us that the cover doesn't shield against RF and EMI then I'm game to order the Burson V6 right now.
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/10 15:44:07 (permalink)
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Have you seen the V6? It's literally a tower. You won't be able to keep the cover on.

Now if someone at EVGA will tell us that the cover doesn't shield against RF and EMI then I'm game to order the Burson V6 right now.



I can only go off of what they have listed on their website -

Measuring 12.4mm X 14.5mm X 29mm (0.48 in x 0.57 in x 1.14 in) the V6 are the smallest discrete op-amps in the world. They conveniently fit wherever they’re used.
 

 
I do not yet have an NU in my hands, I will next Teusday


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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/15 07:01:45 (permalink)
Today I wrote my last exame in my german medical program and I just have one year left in med. school...so what do you do to celebrate such a day? You listen to your favourite music while being totally drunk via a EVGA NU AUDIO soundcard and it just hits your soul deep inside.
 
Thanks EVGA for being awesome. Keep going!
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/17 17:16:44 (permalink)
ty_ger07The headphone jack flopping around at 0:27 isn't confidence inspiring.  You can see that the jack is designed to have a nut securing it, but EVGA omitted it for whatever reason.



There is NO nut on STX I/II as well, but I know they used silver solder so is pretty hard to break apart.   I don't know on EVGA though.
 
You can buy them btw, they are dirty cheap.
 
Size: 6.35mm or 1/4".
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/17 18:29:53 (permalink)
What's the X4 (clock) value?
 
Also, why this thing is limited to 384 if the AKM is able to do 768kHz@32-bit with no problem?
 
The IC also supports DSD512 (22.4MHz).
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/20 11:05:26 (permalink)
Quick question. I have a Sound Blaster Z and I think it may be time to retire it if this card has two features that I've grown attached to. The ability to monitor the microphone input to the headphone/line out without a noticeable delay (Typically within the driver software itself). As well as a stereo mix input option. In my research I haven't been able to find confirming the existence of either of these features.
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/03/20 11:31:33 (permalink)
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The ability to monitor the microphone input to the headphone/line out without a noticeable delay (Typically within the driver software itself). As well as a stereo mix input option. In my research I haven't been able to find confirming the existence of either of these features.

 
Unfortunately, the NU Audio lacks both of those features. I believe EVGA has said at some point they might look into adding stereo mix input, but I've yet to see any indication they are considering low-latency monitoring.
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/04/04 04:24:27 (permalink)


just installed Burson V6 Vivid op-amp

first impressions: JUST WOW! nice improvment to burson v5i I had before
wider sound-stage, better separation, dynamics.....

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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/04/06 17:05:54 (permalink)
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just installed Burson V6 Vivid op-amp

first impressions: JUST WOW! nice improvment to burson v5i I had before
wider sound-stage, better separation, dynamics.....


Funny I was about to ask about if it would work on the speaker op-amp slot. My two just arrived and I put one on the headphone op-amp slot. WOW. But does this mean...I can put two V6 op-amps on BOTH slots?
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/04/06 19:38:13 (permalink)
Looks like you bent the caps, i may try this V6 on the headphone out only,
 
but it really doesn't look like there's much room around either op amps
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/04/06 21:58:27 (permalink)
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Funny I was about to ask about if it would work on the speaker op-amp slot. My two just arrived and I put one on the headphone op-amp slot. WOW. But does this mean...I can put two V6 op-amps on BOTH slots?


That's a very interesting question... please share your experience if you try it. I've also been looking into trying Bursons.
 
The NU Audio headphone amp taps into the line-out signal path, so replacing the line-out op-amp affects the sound of both outputs. So, the question is, would replacing both line-out and headphone op-amps make things even better, or is it overkill?
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Re: EVGA NU AUDIO: LIFELIKE AUDIO 2019/04/06 23:44:32 (permalink)
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Funny I was about to ask about if it would work on the speaker op-amp slot. My two just arrived and I put one on the headphone op-amp slot. WOW. But does this mean...I can put two V6 op-amps on BOTH slots?


That's a very interesting question... please share your experience if you try it. I've also been looking into trying Bursons.
 
The NU Audio headphone amp taps into the line-out signal path, so replacing the line-out op-amp affects the sound of both outputs. So, the question is, would replacing both line-out and headphone op-amps make things even better, or is it overkill?


Well according to Burson, the V6 has a minimum supply voltage of +/- 3.5V to +- 16.5V VDC. 
 
EVGA's manual specs the speaker Op-Amp at +5V, -5V and says something about...
 
"However, the AD8056 op-amp is a very specialized IC and has a maximum operating voltage of 6V (symmetrical +6V, -6V), which means it can only operate in the 5V environment of the Line amplifier, which is socket U613." Also mentions the U613 is a "three stage regulated" socket. 
 
If I'm reading this right, both could theoretically work together on the card without wrecking everything but...I just...really could use some sage advice from either EVGA or Burson at this point.
 
 
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