tt0ne

cerealkeller
has anyone heard if Optimus has shipped their first batch of FTW3 blocks yet?  Unfortunately I'm in the 2nd batch, they said it could be pushed to early December.
Yes, the price is pretty crazy.  But their blocks are epic.  The performance is outstanding.  If you paid for a 3090, you're obviously the type to want the best no matter what.  And I've never seen a block that can compete with what Optimus provides.

I am in the same batch as you. Where do you get December from? I thought based on the note they  made on the front of the product page that our batch is being manufactured as I type this and we can expect end of November for shipping? Did I read that wrong?

I emailed them and requested an ETA, that's what they said along with Covid is causing delays, as much as I like their blocks, I'd probably cancel my order and get an EK for half the price if EK has one before it arrives.

tt0ne
All,
 
The fuses I ordered all were just slightly too big. Can I use thin copper wire at each of the post points and have the fuse elevated off the PCB?
 

Ya, but why not just solder the connection?
Did ur fuses bloe cause of a short? Or did you go 3?mohm or lower?

tt0ne

bavor
Optimus has a reputation of missing delivery dates by weeks and months with previous preorders.  They also overhype the performance of their products.

Sources please.

I own other optimus products and know other owners form the techpowerup forums and some facebook groups.  Their previous preorders for 2080 ti FTW3 blocks and threadripper blocks were delivered many months late.  I've ordered products they said were in stock and they weren't.  Those products that they claimed were in stock showed up 3 or 4 months later.  My optimus AM4 specific block doesn't cool any better than a generic universal fit ~$60 corsair XC7 block until you get CPU power draw is above 275 watts.  

tt0ne
All,
 
The fuses I ordered all were just slightly too big. Can I use thin copper wire at each of the post points and have the fuse elevated off the PCB?
 

Well in theory u dont need fuse at all however thats kinda risky :D I think u can get away with elevating the fuse a bit.

howiejc
I got tired of waiting for a Strix 3090 and didn't want to pay outrageous prices for one, so yesterday I paid $2200 pre-tax for a FTW3 Ultra 3090 that is more or less just a reference power design with different cooling?
 
If EVGA doesn't really fix/address this soon or there is no viable shunt mod, I might just sell mine and buy an expensive Strix 3090 from those bastard scalpers.
 
The funny thing is that I would be one of the shortest-lived, first-time EVGA customers (losing me during the 3090 shipping transit time). Shame on me for not thoroughly researching.

Again, why this violent attitude towards EVGA ? As mentioned in this thread before, u got what u paid for, xoc bios is bonus. No its not reference design in fact its custom pcb, different IC used : uP9511R instead of reference MP2888A. Please just be patient and wait for official release of xoc bios rather than judging ftw3 card or even whole brand EVGA based on B E T A bios that is already in process of fixing.. Guys just be mature and dont direct your anger to this thread, its pointless, lets rather exchange statistics, infos etc and not hatred.

doorules

slovak_killer

howiejc
I got tired of waiting for a Strix 3090 and didn't want to pay outrageous prices for one, so yesterday I paid $2200 pre-tax for a FTW3 Ultra 3090 that is more or less just a reference power design with different cooling?
 
If EVGA doesn't really fix/address this soon or there is no viable shunt mod, I might just sell mine and buy an expensive Strix 3090 from those bastard scalpers.
 
The funny thing is that I would be one of the shortest-lived, first-time EVGA customers (losing me during the 3090 shipping transit time). Shame on me for not thoroughly researching.

Again, why this violent attitude towards EVGA ? As mentioned in this thread before, u got what u paid for, xoc bios is bonus. No its not reference design in fact its custom pcb, different IC used : uP9511R instead of reference MP2888A. Please just be patient and wait for official release of xoc bios rather than judging ftw3 card or even whole brand EVGA based on B E T A bios that is already in process of fixing.. Guys just be mature and dont direct your anger to this thread, its pointless, lets rather exchange statistics, infos etc and not hatred.

well said, 100% agree slovak_killer 

How much offser OC do you guys usually do on the 3090 with the 500Watt BIOS? At what OC do you start seeing difference between the 450Watt and 500Watt VBIOS?
 
Also do you still do the cap V/F curve after a certain point trick?
 
 

Baasha
Is the BIOS linked on the first page the 500W BIOS for the FTW3 Ultra?

Yep.

changboy
Maybe soon we will be able to flash the oc kingpin bios to the 3090 ftw3 ultra with 1920mhz boost ???

We will see, problem is KP is probably going to be MP2888A card,  FTWs are uP9511R based. Wanna see how will FTW behave first.

jaxkrabbit
How much offser OC do you guys usually do on the 3090 with the 500Watt BIOS? At what OC do you start seeing difference between the 450Watt and 500Watt VBIOS?
 
Also do you still do the cap V/F curve after a certain point trick?
 
 

This is what I am wondering. 3090ftw3 Ultra I have a +100 gpu with the 450watt. Hoping to maybe squeak out a +150 gpu

Im still willing to bet that its a cooling issue with these cards on why the preform differently.  I flashed the xc bios and my performance was the same with the xoc bios.  My card peaks at 86C and averages 72C.  Im on first batch with optimus.  Lets see these cards under water cooling.  I m willing to bet we will get better average GPU frequency as well as higher max.  Has any one tried to repaste there cooler to see if it makes a difference?

I find it laughable to see the disparity between different industries regarding the expectation of having "finished" products when products launch as opposed to "patching" them after launch. 

It would seem video card manufacturers are trying to enter the same mentality of game developers where they never release a "finished" part... but instead release only partially developed things with the intent of fixing it later, completely wasting early adopters time and money. 

Excellent! Could be useful for a water-cooled setup with a block.

Notchy44

howiejc

slovak_killerAgain, why this violent attitude towards EVGA ? As mentioned in this thread before, u got what u paid for, xoc bios is bonus. No its not reference design in fact its custom pcb, different IC used : uP9511R instead of reference MP2888A. Please just be patient and wait for official release of xoc bios rather than judging ftw3 card or even whole brand EVGA based on B E T A bios that is already in process of fixing.. Guys just be mature and dont direct your anger to this thread, its pointless, lets rather exchange statistics, infos etc and not hatred.

I have high standards. You expect a premium product when paying a premium price, especially if competitors offer something better for the same price. Also, that whole lack of MLCCs debacle which is clearly inferior to the reference design didn't help either.
Again, my fault for not thoroughly researching.


Ultimately, I really do hope EVGA proves me wrong and resolves this with future BIOS updates so that people can actually hit the 500W limit in reality.
 
Resorting to a shunt mod to avoid power limit throttling is pretty stupid if it's unnecessary and can be avoided.

 
Please don't listen to frame chasers with this whole you have to shunt mod your card to get the bios to work. My card is working perfectly fine with the bios as is a few other people on this forum. I bet a LOT more people are having success but they are not willing to take the time to post. This is a BETA bios so yes it still has time to mature. This card was not advertised with 500 watts and EVGA did not have to release this bios flash as the card performs above the ratings on the box STOCK.

This
i questioned his content since i first saw his video and honestly the logic is not sound. plus some of us are able to draw the full potential power for the 500w without any hardware modifications...so once again, his conclusion and reasoning is unfounded.
 
The only video i saw of his is where he stated he shunted the top 5 and showed a power draw, then stating that he shunted the pcie and claiming it fixed the 500w bios but it was showing the exact same power draw... (obviously shunting will increase the power draw) duh and proclaiming that he is a genius and he fixed the issue. ummm ok... but looks like he is a good shepherd herding so many viewers
 
That said, his score is poor on PR and can be achieved using the stock ftw3 bios without any shunts; it is exceptionally poor considering his avg temps are at 40c if i remember correctly. where my card can hit that score at 55C+ avg...... assuming he did keep all shunts on the card, (i don't see why you would remove them) should theoretically be hitting 15500+ repeatedly, especially with that avg temp
 
/shrug just saying
 
 
 

Shunt modding hides the power draw from the power monitoring software. So if you’re still power throttling, it’s going to show the same power draw in GPUz as it did prior to the mod