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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 15:10:21 (permalink)
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So the consensus is these beta BIOS wont increase your performance, despite it raises the total board power limit to 500Watt




worked for me, 0 issues and scores to prove its working. Im on air beating out water cooled cards. The oc.exe file I was talking about was provided by someone on this forum. He got it directly from EVGA and wanted me to test it out. Here is some of my score with the bios from the front page of this forum.
 

 
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What are your precision x1 settings?
 
Also you are not beating other GPUs, your graphic score is lower than some on the list.
 
Edit: I am interested in these executable files, what do they do? I'd be willing to try it out as well, what youre doing sounds better than flashing to XC3 bios, but I need more clarifications before I 24/7 game doing these side solutions...




The people beating me are on Water or Shunt modded to all hell. Im in the top 126 with a 3090 on port royal on air. Are there some people above me on air too? Yes but most of them are hard modding the cards with shunts and crazy cooling. All im saying is im in the top 1% of 3090 with a simple bios flash and some OC tuning on x1. My setting are +198 core +1100 mem , 119% power fans at 100%. my temps avg 65c in port royal.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 15:20:00 (permalink)
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I have tried the XOC bios for both the normal and OC bios on the 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Still cannot get close to 500 watts, 440 is the most I have seen. Tried the XC3 bios and that did nothing for me either. Just did a TSE run with core @ +220, and memory @ +800. 433 watts was total draw. Leaving a lot on the table here not being able to utilize those bios's.
 
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/15406662
 

 




Same bios, almost the same x1 setting and this is what im getting. 520watt peak power and 495w avg for this run for me. +198 core +1000 mem on this run
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 15:34:08 (permalink)
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And i dont know how many times I need to say that the post I made was with the XOC bios, not the XC3.

Twice more should do it.
 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 15:38:30 (permalink)
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And i dont know how many times I need to say that the post I made was with the XOC bios, not the XC3.

Twice more should do it.
 



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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 15:42:44 (permalink)
The FTW3 PCB design is limiting the performance of these cards big time thats why so many people out there are hard modding. Its crazy that you can buy a card from another company and load it with EVGA's 500w bios and beat the EVGA card. lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 15:44:37 (permalink)
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I have tried the XOC bios for both the normal and OC bios on the 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Still cannot get close to 500 watts, 440 is the most I have seen. Tried the XC3 bios and that did nothing for me either. Just did a TSE run with core @ +220, and memory @ +800. 433 watts was total draw. Leaving a lot on the table here not being able to utilize those bios's.
 
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/15406662
 

 




Same bios, almost the same x1 setting and this is what im getting. 520watt peak power and 495w avg for this run for me. +198 core +1000 mem on this run
 

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But for the difference in cpu's you would stomp me. Best I can get in PR bench is 14k flat, 600 points behind you. Cpu really has little effect in that bench.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 15:50:12 (permalink)
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I have tried the XOC bios for both the normal and OC bios on the 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Still cannot get close to 500 watts, 440 is the most I have seen. Tried the XC3 bios and that did nothing for me either. Just did a TSE run with core @ +220, and memory @ +800. 433 watts was total draw. Leaving a lot on the table here not being able to utilize those bios's.
 
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/15406662
 

 




Same bios, almost the same x1 setting and this is what im getting. 520watt peak power and 495w avg for this run for me. +198 core +1000 mem on this run
 

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But for the difference in cpu's you would stomp me. Best I can get in PR bench is 14k flat, 600 points behind you. Cpu really has little effect in that bench.




Im still waiting on my 5950X from B&H. I was one of the lucky few not to get the "We will ship by March 2021" email. Just waiting for them to get stock... God knows how long that will take LOL. the 10980XE is a beast though, CRUSHED my overclocked 3900X by a lot lol. Im still running 3200 C16 ram too lol I have 4000 C15 waiting for my new CPU though
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 15:54:53 (permalink)
I am running c14 3200 @ 4000... doesnt acct for the wattage difference though, lol.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:02:59 (permalink)
Ok so this is weird
I flashed the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA - BIOS 2 (OC) from the first page onto my FTW3 Ultra. 

This flashed 94.02.26.48.F8. 
 
Checking the bios repository on Tech power up, this bios version is labeled as RTX 3090 24 GB (not the ultra.) 
The Ultra bios is apparently 94.02.26.48.F7.
 
Can those who have a successful power limit check what the bios version is on their Ultra card?
 
Not sure how accurate the the TechPower site is. 
 
   
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:07:23 (permalink)
The F7 version is for the Normal bios and the F8 is for the OC bios
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:09:11 (permalink)
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Ok so this is weird
I flashed the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA - BIOS 2 (OC) from the first page onto my FTW3 Ultra. 

This flashed 94.02.26.48.F8. 
 
Checking the bios repository on Tech power up, this bios version is labeled as RTX 3090 24 GB (not the ultra.) 
The Ultra bios is apparently 94.02.26.48.F7.
 
Can those who have a successful power limit check what the bios version is on their Ultra card?
 
Not sure how accurate the the TechPower site is. 
 
   
 
 




This is the working bios
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:11:13 (permalink)
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This is the working bios
 


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Ok so it looks like is mislabeled on Tech power...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:16:11 (permalink)
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This is the working bios
 


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Notchy, It's also kind of weird that Texture Fillrate, Pixel fillrate, Bandwidth, and GPU Clocks are way higher than mine, even though it's the same card.????
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:18:03 (permalink)
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This is the working bios
 


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Notchy, It's also kind of weird that Texture Fillrate, Pixel fillrate, Bandwidth, and GPU Clocks are way higher than mine, even though it's the same card.????
 




Thats because im running a +135 core oc and +850 mem oc as my daily gaming setup lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:20:21 (permalink)
I have the F8 bios from here and i think the F7 is the oldier version right ?
 
About psu, sometime even you under the rated spec of your psu, it can happen it wont handle the load, the +5volt is important also, my 1600 p2 have 24 amp and on my 1000 p2 just 20 amp for example.
With my 1000 p2 i cant oc my 10980xe at 4.9ghz, it was not stable even i put 1.28volt and with my 1600 p2 4.9ghz is stable with 1.255 volt. My 1600p2 can oc my 10980xe at 5.0ghz and keep smiling.
 
The thing is if your psu begin to work hard then the 12 volt can go down a bit and bring unstability to the system even he can give the current. When its begin to be hard for a psu then voltage can drop and this is not what you want on high end system. You need tight regulation.
 
With my actual system, even a 1200 watt is not enough. Even psu configurator tell me a 1050 watt. When you begin ask yourself about ur psu then...you know the anwser.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:22:11 (permalink)
I want a waterblock for my card, WHERE ARE THEY ? Everyone have a WB but just us with the ftw3 dont have it lol arggggg.
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:22:34 (permalink)
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Thats because im running a +135 core oc and +850 mem oc as my daily gaming setup lol


Ah ok
 
So X1 is messed up too. 
I just opened it as I had a small overclock 90 core and 1000 mem, and it was back to stock values. 
Loaded the profile and indeed the the before mentioned went up. But I still don't know how you guys are getting above 100 on core. 90 is my limit. It crashes every time. Someone else posted +200, lol no way on my card. 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:24:15 (permalink)
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I want a waterblock for my card, WHERE ARE THEY ? Everyone have a WB but just us with the ftw3 dont have it lol arggggg.
 




Optimuis 
optimuspc.com/products/absolute-gpu-block-ftw3-3080-3090
 
Optimus Absolute GPU Block
 
for only $379 with a backplate :P
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:30:57 (permalink)
has anyone heard if Optimus has shipped their first batch of FTW3 blocks yet?  Unfortunately I'm in the 2nd batch, they said it could be pushed to early December.
Yes, the price is pretty crazy.  But their blocks are epic.  The performance is outstanding.  If you paid for a 3090, you're obviously the type to want the best no matter what.  And I've never seen a block that can compete with what Optimus provides.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 16:41:03 (permalink)
Ya sold out, but its really high price, maybe we will get one from EK in deccember for near half the price.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 17:16:00 (permalink)
Just received my FTW3 Ultra from Evga.
On the stock BIOS, 107% would result in the power limiter kicking in around 440W. After flashing the 500W XOC BIOS and increasing the limit to 119%, I get up to ~480W and sometimes up to 505W before it kicks in.
 
So for me, the XOC BIOS does work but does not provide a significant OC headroom. The best I can do right now is a sustained 2085MHz in Battlefield 5 at 1.012v after dropping from 2130MHz due to temps (mid 70s). The card also seems stable at 1.0v and 2070MHz but I wanted to get as close to 2100MHz as possible.
 
Any higher than 1.0v and I start hitting the power limit in Port Royal, but that's not a huge deal as I prioritize high clocks in games which benefit from the additional voltage while still drawing less power than benchmarks. Time Spy Extreme is a power-limiter fest regardless of the voltage, dropping the clocks into the 1800s on occasion.
 
I can't wait to put a waterblock on this card to avoid losing 45MHz over my target clocks, but then it looks like I'll still be running into the power limiter. I hope Evga releases an improved XOC BIOS by then because I'm not a fan of cross flashing BIOS.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 17:52:58 (permalink)
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has anyone heard if Optimus has shipped their first batch of FTW3 blocks yet?  Unfortunately I'm in the 2nd batch, they said it could be pushed to early December.
Yes, the price is pretty crazy.  But their blocks are epic.  The performance is outstanding.  If you paid for a 3090, you're obviously the type to want the best no matter what.  And I've never seen a block that can compete with what Optimus provides.



There are multiple posts about it elsewhere on the forum in a different post.  Its off topic for this discussion about the BIOS.  The people from the first batch won't get their cards until December at the earliest according to someone I know who ordered one in the first batch.
 
https://forums.evga.com/Optimus-ftw3-block-back-in-stock-m3133779.aspx
 
Optimus has a reputation of missing delivery dates by weeks and months with previous preorders.  They also overhype the performance of their products.
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 18:05:13 (permalink)
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Just received my FTW3 Ultra from Evga.
On the stock BIOS, 107% would result in the power limiter kicking in around 440W. After flashing the 500W XOC BIOS and increasing the limit to 119%, I get up to ~480W and sometimes up to 505W before it kicks in.
 
So for me, the XOC BIOS does work but does not provide a significant OC headroom. The best I can do right now is a sustained 2085MHz in Battlefield 5 at 1.012v after dropping from 2130MHz due to temps (mid 70s). The card also seems stable at 1.0v and 2070MHz but I wanted to get as close to 2100MHz as possible.
 
Any higher than 1.0v and I start hitting the power limit in Port Royal, but that's not a huge deal as I prioritize high clocks in games which benefit from the additional voltage while still drawing less power than benchmarks. Time Spy Extreme is a power-limiter fest regardless of the voltage, dropping the clocks into the 1800s on occasion.
 
I can't wait to put a waterblock on this card to avoid losing 45MHz over my target clocks, but then it looks like I'll still be running into the power limiter. I hope Evga releases an improved XOC BIOS by then because I'm not a fan of cross flashing BIOS.


Hey Emmanuel, did you just flash using the file on the first page?
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 18:12:51 (permalink)
Yep, I flashed it onto the OC BIOS of the card; I did not flash anything over the "normal" ROM. I also made backups of both OC & Normal ROMs just in case.
 
So is the consensus that the early adopters with the very first batch of these cards can't get above 440W? Or have there been exceptions? Again though, the XOC improvement is marginal.


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 19:06:32 (permalink)
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Yep, I flashed it onto the OC BIOS of the card; I did not flash anything over the "normal" ROM. I also made backups of both OC & Normal ROMs just in case.
 
So is the consensus that the early adopters with the very first batch of these cards can't get above 440W? Or have there been exceptions? Again though, the XOC improvement is marginal.


Not certain its a consensus, but it seems a possibility. I had a relatively early purchase (first few shipments) so I am wondering if there was a minor revision that changed it. I have seen spikes to 112%, but very very rarely, and usually not much above 105.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 19:19:19 (permalink)
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H-Emmanuel
Yep, I flashed it onto the OC BIOS of the card; I did not flash anything over the "normal" ROM. I also made backups of both OC & Normal ROMs just in case.
 
So is the consensus that the early adopters with the very first batch of these cards can't get above 440W? Or have there been exceptions? Again though, the XOC improvement is marginal.


Not certain its a consensus, but it seems a possibility. I had a relatively early purchase (first few shipments) so I am wondering if there was a minor revision that changed it. I have seen spikes to 112%, but very very rarely, and usually not much above 105.


I don't think it's a thing. I just got my card and it was a store retail purchase. They got a massive shipment from EVGA. So I guess I have one of the the latest cars available. So I'm not sure what the deal is with the bios...
 
One thing I just found out though, is the Afterburner allows me to overclock way more that X1. 
Getting a solid +160 core and +1000mem on afterburner and all benchmarks (royal, superposition, Heaven..) not crashing. x1 the most I could manage was 90core and 1000 mem. Benchmarks all improved with Afterburner as well. 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 19:24:19 (permalink)
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Can you describe what the owner of the card was doing when the fuse blew? Gaming, benchmarking, stress testing? I’ll PM if I don’t hear back.



Hi CK,
 
It happened immediately at power on.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 19:42:14 (permalink)
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has anyone heard if Optimus has shipped their first batch of FTW3 blocks yet?  Unfortunately I'm in the 2nd batch, they said it could be pushed to early December.
Yes, the price is pretty crazy.  But their blocks are epic.  The performance is outstanding.  If you paid for a 3090, you're obviously the type to want the best no matter what.  And I've never seen a block that can compete with what Optimus provides.



I am in the same batch as you. Where do you get December from? I thought based on the note they  made on the front of the product page that our batch is being manufactured as I type this and we can expect end of November for shipping? Did I read that wrong?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 19:43:43 (permalink)
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Optimus has a reputation of missing delivery dates by weeks and months with previous preorders.  They also overhype the performance of their products.



Sources please.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/19 19:46:46 (permalink)
All,
 
The fuses I ordered all were just slightly too big. Can I use thin copper wire at each of the post points and have the fuse elevated off the PCB?
 

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