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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/20 21:45:28 (permalink)
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The card is in gimp mode because it's not boosting to its base clocks.  210 mhz is 2D clocks.  Can you run GPU-Z with a load on the GPU at 1000 mhz and post the "Max" values in GPU-Z wattage sensors, under a stress test like Heaven benchmark?  For all of the wattages.



         Date        , GPU Clock [MHz] , Memory Clock [MHz] , GPU Temperature [°C] , Fan 1 Speed (%) [%] , Fan 1 Speed (RPM) [RPM] , Fan 2 Speed (%) [%] , Fan 2 Speed (RPM) [RPM] , Memory Used [MB] , GPU Load [%] , Memory Controller Load [%] , Video Engine Load [%] , Bus Interface Load [%] , Board Power Draw [W] , GPU Chip Power Draw [W] , MVDDC Power Draw [W] , PWR_SRC Power Draw [W] , PWR_SRC Voltage [V] , PCIe Slot Power [W] , PCIe Slot Voltage [V] , 8-Pin #1 Power [W] , 8-Pin #1 Voltage [V] , 8-Pin #2 Power [W] , 8-Pin #2 Voltage [V] , 8-Pin #3 Power [W] , 8-Pin #3 Voltage [V] , Power Consumption (%) [% TDP] , PerfCap Reason [] , GPU Voltage [V] , CPU Temperature [°C] , System Memory Used [MB] ,
2020-11-20 20:42:36 ,        1200.0   ,           1219.0   ,               31.0   ,               100   ,                  2988   ,               100   ,                  3008   ,           4306   ,          0   ,                        0   ,                   0   ,                    0   ,              463.8   ,                  24.4   ,              756.1   ,                428.6   ,              12.3   ,              36.0   ,                12.2   ,             29.4   ,               12.2   ,            382.4   ,               12.3   ,             16.0   ,               12.2   ,                       110.4   ,               1   ,        0.7370   ,               36.0   ,                  6862   ,

 
This was during a run on 4k Superposition.




It's reporting 384W from 8 pin #2?  Yikes...
 
Did you bypass the shunts?  Or just the fuses?  The board is in safety mode because of the strange power reporting.  It's reporting 756W from the memory, almost no power from the GPU core, etc...and the memory power draw is reported higher than the board power draw.
 
That explains why it's in safety mode.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/20 21:59:04 (permalink)
My take on this situation is as follow:
 
One person cannot expect to get the same overclocking results and benchmarks as the next person with the same GPU.
There are so many variables to take into consideration. All of us have different hardware and software components, which makes up our PCs.
Even if you build replica systems, overclocking results and benchmarks will differ.
 
Anyway, can't wait to get my EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra this week! :)
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/20 22:03:53 (permalink)
Seeing varying results from adding 500w I agree, being able to add advertised 500w like all the other cards out there flaunting this bios that works as advertised, I disagree. Everyone with adequate power should be able to add the 500w if it works for cheaper 3 pin cards...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/20 22:05:34 (permalink)
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It's reporting 384W from 8 pin #2?  Yikes...
 
Did you bypass the shunts?  Or just the fuses?  The board is in safety mode because of the strange power reporting.  It's reporting 756W from the memory, almost no power from the GPU core, etc...and the memory power draw is reported higher than the board power draw.
 
That explains why it's in safety mode.


Fuses are all completely bypassed. I removed the 8ohm shunt resistors that had been placed on top of the 5ohm shun resistors. I expected the card to operate as normal minus the protection of fuses. Instead I got this Frankenstein abnormality. In regards to power connector two - is it possible I need to reflow the 5 ohm shunt since it is acting like it doesn't exist at the moment? Is that how you read things?
 
By the way, the reason the fuses are all bypassed is because I was wrong about blowing the PCI-E fuse. In fact, that was the only one which didn't blow. It was the 3 on the other side of the card.
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/20 22:10:09 (permalink)
Have you guys tried running Quake 2 RTX? (free on steam). It’s a good test to see if the 500W beta bios actually works.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/20 22:12:59 (permalink)
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It's reporting 384W from 8 pin #2?  Yikes...
 
Did you bypass the shunts?  Or just the fuses?  The board is in safety mode because of the strange power reporting.  It's reporting 756W from the memory, almost no power from the GPU core, etc...and the memory power draw is reported higher than the board power draw.
 
That explains why it's in safety mode.


Fuses are all completely bypassed. I removed the 8ohm shunt resistors that had been placed on top of the 5ohm shun resistors. I expected the card to operate as normal minus the protection of fuses. Instead I got this Frankenstein abnormality. In regards to power connector two - is it possible I need to reflow the 5 ohm shunt since it is acting like it doesn't exist at the moment? Is that how you read things?
 
By the way, the reason the fuses are all bypassed is because I was wrong about blowing the PCI-E fuse. In fact, that was the only one which didn't blow. It was the 3 on the other side of the card.
 




Unfortunately this is completely beyond my knowledge.
Did you test with a multimeter?  
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/20 23:21:19 (permalink)
Yes, I used a multi-meter to test impedance across the fuses which is why I knew they were shot. You pointed me in the right direction whether you realize it or not -the GPU-Z readings pretty much spells it out. We've got most of the power readings telling us that everything is as it should be for a card that is only running at 210 mhz. Then one big giant Frankenstein  lookling at us for the 2nd PSU connector. It's like the 5ohm shunt has been removed which suggests to me it needs a reflow... and guess who just happened to pick a reflow station up the other day ;-)
 
Just for extra backup I removed three 5ohm shunt resistors from an old 1st generation Titan so in case the one that is giving me problems is actually defective now it can be replaced with a new one. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 00:02:56 (permalink)
Welp my friends GPU came in today, 3090 FTW3 ultra and I did the exact same thing as my card and guess what! It worked perfectly fine with 500 watt bios update. His card is brand new from EVGA as well just like mine. When you guys first got the card and loaded the bios did you also update the firmware as well? On his card it did not ask to update the firmware until after he flashed his card to the 500w bios. 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 00:55:59 (permalink)
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Welp my friends GPU came in today, 3090 FTW3 ultra and I did the exact same thing as my card and guess what! It worked perfectly fine with 500 watt bios update. His card is brand new from EVGA as well just like mine. When you guys first got the card and loaded the bios did you also update the firmware as well? On his card it did not ask to update the firmware until after he flashed his card to the 500w bios. 
 
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Yea I updated firmware, as I said previously, can u record video showing exact steps u did ? 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 00:58:17 (permalink)
What program was you running during the gpuz to show the 500w draw?




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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:02:07 (permalink)
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Welp my friends GPU came in today, 3090 FTW3 ultra and I did the exact same thing as my card and guess what! It worked perfectly fine with 500 watt bios update. His card is brand new from EVGA as well just like mine. When you guys first got the card and loaded the bios did you also update the firmware as well? On his card it did not ask to update the firmware until after he flashed his card to the 500w bios. 
 
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please document what you did
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:03:43 (permalink)
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Welp my friends GPU came in today, 3090 FTW3 ultra and I did the exact same thing as my card and guess what! It worked perfectly fine with 500 watt bios update. His card is brand new from EVGA as well just like mine. When you guys first got the card and loaded the bios did you also update the firmware as well? On his card it did not ask to update the firmware until after he flashed his card to the 500w bios. 
 
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Yea I updated firmware, as I said previously, can u record video showing exact steps u did ? 




Really no need for a video, All I did was make sure the card is set to OC mode, Fresh drivers installed (DDU uninstaller before installing latest nvidia drivers) click the installer and restart the computer then run a GPU stress test. It did not work at first before the firmware was updated and also tried using MSI afterburner. Fixed once we installed the firmware update from Precision X1. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:05:13 (permalink)
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Welp my friends GPU came in today, 3090 FTW3 ultra and I did the exact same thing as my card and guess what! It worked perfectly fine with 500 watt bios update. His card is brand new from EVGA as well just like mine. When you guys first got the card and loaded the bios did you also update the firmware as well? On his card it did not ask to update the firmware until after he flashed his card to the 500w bios. 
 
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Yea I updated firmware, as I said previously, can u record video showing exact steps u did ? 




Really no need for a video, All I did was make sure the card is set to OC mode, Fresh drivers installed (DDU uninstaller before installing latest nvidia drivers) click the installer and restart the computer then run a GPU stress test. It did not work at first before the firmware was updated and also tried using MSI afterburner. Fixed once we installed the firmware update from Precision X1. 

What gpu stress test are you using?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:06:05 (permalink)
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What program was you running during the gpuz to show the 500w draw?



MSI Kombustor 4 x64 
 
Then run (GL) Firmark - Donut
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:08:09 (permalink)
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Welp my friends GPU came in today, 3090 FTW3 ultra and I did the exact same thing as my card and guess what! It worked perfectly fine with 500 watt bios update. His card is brand new from EVGA as well just like mine. When you guys first got the card and loaded the bios did you also update the firmware as well? On his card it did not ask to update the firmware until after he flashed his card to the 500w bios. 
 
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Yea I updated firmware, as I said previously, can u record video showing exact steps u did ? 




Really no need for a video, All I did was make sure the card is set to OC mode, Fresh drivers installed (DDU uninstaller before installing latest nvidia drivers) click the installer and restart the computer then run a GPU stress test. It did not work at first before the firmware was updated and also tried using MSI afterburner. Fixed once we installed the firmware update from Precision X1. 


Did that multiple times, DDU, new drivers, fresh bios flash.. nothing changed for me, still maxing out at 425W. Firmware is already updated since day one.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:11:57 (permalink)
Can u show us your precision info ? just click exclamation mark on right corner, its besides PX1 version number. For me Its missing firmware version.
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:19:30 (permalink)
Sure I will attach it, Im uploading a video of the card in a stress test as well so you guys can see a live video of the card and the Gpu-Z power draw.
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:22:08 (permalink)
youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:28:42 (permalink)
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video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:31:33 (permalink)
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youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
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how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:32:46 (permalink)
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youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg




simply put: not possible on my card. with the same bios you have. not looking good.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:39:29 (permalink)
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youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg


tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:43:01 (permalink)
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youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg


tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.




What is your power supply setup? how old is it? Also are you using 3 full pci-E 8 pins? Just hard to believe after 2 cards that I have personally installed in 2 completely different builds worked perfectly fine. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:47:11 (permalink)
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youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg


tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.




What is your power supply setup? how old is it? Also are you using 3 full pci-E 8 pins? Just hard to believe after 2 cards that I have personally installed in 2 completely different builds worked perfectly fine. 




Man allooott of people are having problems not just me, it's a 1000w supernova evga power supply from last march, yeah it's 3 separate 8 pins. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:48:41 (permalink)
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Notchy44
youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg


tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.




What is your power supply setup? how old is it? Also are you using 3 full pci-E 8 pins? Just hard to believe after 2 cards that I have personally installed in 2 completely different builds worked perfectly fine. 


People aren't resorting to shunt modding for no reason this is like, a a widely known and talked about thing you are actually in the small minority it works for
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:49:02 (permalink)
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youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg


tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.




What is your power supply setup? how old is it? Also are you using 3 full pci-E 8 pins? Just hard to believe after 2 cards that I have personally installed in 2 completely different builds worked perfectly fine. 




Man allooott of people are having problems not just me, it's a 1000w supernova evga power supply from last march, yeah it's 3 separate 8 pins. 




No I get it, just crazy that some can work and some dont. How old is your card? Mine is 2 weeks old directly from EVGA. I know we have checked the revisions already and they match but maybe they stealth changed something?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:50:33 (permalink)
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youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg


tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.




What is your power supply setup? how old is it? Also are you using 3 full pci-E 8 pins? Just hard to believe after 2 cards that I have personally installed in 2 completely different builds worked perfectly fine. 


People aren't resorting to shunt modding for no reason this is like, a a widely known and talked about thing you are actually in the small minority it works for




TBH I believe a LOT more people have this working than you think. Most people don't care to post if the Bios working as intended.
post edited by Notchy44 - 2020/11/21 02:18:25
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:51:17 (permalink)
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youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg


tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.




What is your power supply setup? how old is it? Also are you using 3 full pci-E 8 pins? Just hard to believe after 2 cards that I have personally installed in 2 completely different builds worked perfectly fine. 




Man allooott of people are having problems not just me, it's a 1000w supernova evga power supply from last march, yeah it's 3 separate 8 pins. 




No I get it, just crazy that some can work and some dont. How old is your card? Mine is 2 weeks old directly from EVGA. I know we have checked the revisions already and they match but maybe they stealth changed something?


My card came out of newegg oct 9th, the beta bios came out like probably 15th or right around there your card left the 25th. they could have known about it and been planning a shift, i dunno.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 01:54:43 (permalink)
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youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working


how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max




Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg


tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.




What is your power supply setup? how old is it? Also are you using 3 full pci-E 8 pins? Just hard to believe after 2 cards that I have personally installed in 2 completely different builds worked perfectly fine. 




Man allooott of people are having problems not just me, it's a 1000w supernova evga power supply from last march, yeah it's 3 separate 8 pins. 




No I get it, just crazy that some can work and some dont. How old is your card? Mine is 2 weeks old directly from EVGA. I know we have checked the revisions already and they match but maybe they stealth changed something?


My card came out of newegg oct 9th, the beta bios came out like probably 15th or right around there your card left the 25th. they could have known about it and been planning a shift, i dunno.




Yeah its really weird, I have another friend getting a FTW3 in the next fews days. I will be building his computer and will post the results of that as well.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/11/21 06:20:08 (permalink)
Yep. Same issue here. Can never pull above 430-440w with the xoc bios but can pull 455w with the OC stock bios and that's with a Seasonic Prime 1300 titanium. I have a corsair hx 1200 also as a spare but I seriously doubt it's the power supply...right? My Seasonic is barely a year old.
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