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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/20 16:30:47 (permalink)
What is the latest Bios version for RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 12:00:21 (permalink)
In terms of the 500W "fix" - Won't flashing rev 1.0 cards to 94.02.42.80.27 change the subsystem ID? Is this fully revertable if we flash back to 94.02.42.C0.02?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 13:33:48 (permalink)
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In terms of the 500W "fix" - Won't flashing rev 1.0 cards to 94.02.42.80.27 change the subsystem ID? Is this fully revertable if we flash back to 94.02.42.C0.02?




you won't have any issues with that, just be careful if you flash with XC3 VBIOS as it will update your firmware and it's not the same as the FTW3 Ultra Gaming Firmware...

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 13:42:29 (permalink)
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PCIe power is fine, i think 57 Watt. Its rev 1.0 board wo ok

Card is ftw3 ultra



Is the bios selector in the second position?
 
"Newer EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA cards will be shipping with the XOC BIOS already loaded on the secondary position. The below BIOS should ONLY be installed if your card DID NOT already have it applied."




Anybody hear of any of these coming through with the 500w bios from the factory?  Thx!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 13:58:29 (permalink)
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Same here,
 
what's your first 4 serial digits? Mine is 2012 black lips and it clocks to the moon, very good bin.
I dont think I will ask for a replacement since the card pulls 500w (490W) evenly (78W-139W-142W-130W)


2014 on mine.

It hasn't really been put through it's paces yet. I haven't quite finished the new build, so it's in an older machine that doesn't have enough horsepower to make the card break a sweat. The 3090 is light years better than the twin 950's I was running previously tho, so they're semi retired until I finish the new machine.

I'm hoping I won't have any issues with it.


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 14:19:44 (permalink)
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PCIe power is fine, i think 57 Watt. Its rev 1.0 board wo ok

Card is ftw3 ultra



Is the bios selector in the second position?
 
"Newer EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA cards will be shipping with the XOC BIOS already loaded on the secondary position. The below BIOS should ONLY be installed if your card DID NOT already have it applied."




Anybody hear of any of these coming through with the 500w bios from the factory?  Thx!




Yes but it's not that true...you need to see some pages back, either way i tell you here. RMA Program, Rev 1.0 Cards on the first position (normal) comes with VBIOS ending in C0.02 PT= 107% limited to 450W, and in second position (oc) comes with VBIOS ending in C0.05 PT=119% limited to 467W to protect too much draw (above 160W) from the PCIe cables (it's our best guess), to get full 500W+ you need to flash VBIOS 94.02.42.80.27


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 14:23:35 (permalink)
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Same here,
 
what's your first 4 serial digits? Mine is 2012 black lips and it clocks to the moon, very good bin.
I dont think I will ask for a replacement since the card pulls 500w (490W) evenly (78W-139W-142W-130W)


2014 on mine.

It hasn't really been put through it's paces yet. I haven't quite finished the new build, so it's in an older machine that doesn't have enough horsepower to make the card break a sweat. The 3090 is light years better than the twin 950's I was running previously tho, so they're semi retired until I finish the new machine.

I'm hoping I won't have any issues with it.



2014 cards are for RMA, but you can always try XC3 VBIOS first and see, in my case worked very good but in heavy consumption card will drop from 2100 to 1920 and less because of a problem with the voltaje regulator (at least what we guess). In my opinion there wasn't much I could do, I installed the Hybrid Kit and still dropped and Clocks jumped more than I would like at higher resolutions or heavy load benches.
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 14:51:27 (permalink)
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PCIe power is fine, i think 57 Watt. Its rev 1.0 board wo ok

Card is ftw3 ultra



Is the bios selector in the second position?
 
"Newer EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA cards will be shipping with the XOC BIOS already loaded on the secondary position. The below BIOS should ONLY be installed if your card DID NOT already have it applied."




Anybody hear of any of these coming through with the 500w bios from the factory?  Thx!




Yes but it's not that true...you need to see some pages back, either way i tell you here. RMA Program, Rev 1.0 Cards on the first position (normal) comes with VBIOS ending in C0.02 PT= 107% limited to 450W, and in second position (oc) comes with VBIOS ending in C0.05 PT=119% limited to 467W to protect too much draw (above 160W) from the PCIe cables (it's our best guess), to get full 500W+ you need to flash VBIOS 94.02.42.80.27


All the Best, Sergio!




So in short there is some limitation on the C0.05 bios, that 80.27 removes and even though flashing a 1.0 card would change subsystem ID, this doesn't cause any (known) problems?
 
Also, sorry to be so verbose, but just confirming then that if we flash back to C0.05 bios (on 1.0 board) the subsystem ID will be reverted back to correct value? So this is a non-permanent change? I've heard mixed reports otherwise, so just confirming.
 
Thanks.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 17:28:21 (permalink)
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PCIe power is fine, i think 57 Watt. Its rev 1.0 board wo ok

Card is ftw3 ultra



Is the bios selector in the second position?
 
"Newer EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA cards will be shipping with the XOC BIOS already loaded on the secondary position. The below BIOS should ONLY be installed if your card DID NOT already have it applied."




Anybody hear of any of these coming through with the 500w bios from the factory?  Thx!




Yes but it's not that true...you need to see some pages back, either way i tell you here. RMA Program, Rev 1.0 Cards on the first position (normal) comes with VBIOS ending in C0.02 PT= 107% limited to 450W, and in second position (oc) comes with VBIOS ending in C0.05 PT=119% limited to 467W to protect too much draw (above 160W) from the PCIe cables (it's our best guess), to get full 500W+ you need to flash VBIOS 94.02.42.80.27


All the Best, Sergio!




So in short there is some limitation on the C0.05 bios, that 80.27 removes and even though flashing a 1.0 card would change subsystem ID, this doesn't cause any (known) problems?
 
Also, sorry to be so verbose, but just confirming then that if we flash back to C0.05 bios (on 1.0 board) the subsystem ID will be reverted back to correct value? So this is a non-permanent change? I've heard mixed reports otherwise, so just confirming.
 
Thanks.




Don't apologize I'm here to help in whatever I can bro...For all this I mentioned you need a GPU with PCB rev 1.0...and no, it won't hurt, just be aware that Real 500W VBIOS will pull a lot from the PSU Cables, I'm using a SilverStone ST1500-TI TIANIUM PSU.


I flashed both ways no problems with nvflash -6 VBIOS.rom many times, also when I had the PCB rev 0.1 I used XC3 VBIOS, I'm one of the firsts along with other guys that been on this thread for a long time and experienced all issues so ask what you want and I'll gladly reply if I know the answer.
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 18:01:50 (permalink)
Did you actually see performance benefit (e.g. higher average boost clock) from 500W or just increased power draw?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 18:45:02 (permalink)
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Did you actually see performance benefit (e.g. higher average boost clock) from 500W or just increased power draw?




yes of course all benches run great with 500W VBIOS

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 21:02:36 (permalink)
If my serial starts with 2114 , I don't have to RMA?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/23 21:59:31 (permalink)
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If my serial starts with 2114 , I don't have to RMA?




Yes you do but 2114 are PCB rev 1.0...look on the PCIe Slot of the card
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 05:01:13 (permalink)
I sent my v0.1 3090 back last week. Hoping the card chugs through EVGA's system asap. Ideally I'd want it back for this weekend.
 
This is my third card being sent back, so the new one will be my FOURTH 3090 FTW3 Ultra. That is madness IMHO. Definitely makes me pause for my next card. 
 
How long does it typically take in the USA to get a card back once EVGA's RMA system receives it?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 05:18:42 (permalink)
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I sent my v0.1 3090 back last week. Hoping the card chugs through EVGA's system asap. Ideally I'd want it back for this weekend.
 
This is my third card being sent back, so the new one will be my FOURTH 3090 FTW3 Ultra. That is madness IMHO. Definitely makes me pause for my next card. 
 
How long does it typically take in the USA to get a card back once EVGA's RMA system receives it?


I don't understand ..why do you have to keep sending them back?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 05:25:15 (permalink)
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I don't understand ..why do you have to keep sending them back?



First one bought back in Nov 2020. Died after 3 days. Black screen. No fans spinning at all. Just didn't have an output. 
Second one received via RMA around early Dec. Died after one week. Fans spinning up and down. No output. Tried in several machines.
Third one received after a huge delay from EVGA over Xmas period. I was without a card for 5 weeks. Received Jan. Card is v0.1 and pulls 85W from the PCIe slot. I have posted screenies in here.
 
I was offered a v1.0 back in March-ish but I didn't have time to send it back due to working away a lot. 
 
Finally sent the third one back last week after EVGA agreed. 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 07:45:26 (permalink)
I've been out of the loop for a while. Wasn't there supposed to be an update to fix the card explosion issue/fan bonkers issue that happened with the New World game? Did that update ever materialize or is EVGA still playing dumb over it and trying to silently sweep it under the rug?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 07:49:14 (permalink)
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Anybody hear of any of these coming through with the 500w bios from the factory?  Thx!




Yes but it's not that true...you need to see some pages back, either way i tell you here. RMA Program, Rev 1.0 Cards on the first position (normal) comes with VBIOS ending in C0.02 PT= 107% limited to 450W, and in second position (oc) comes with VBIOS ending in C0.05 PT=119% limited to 467W to protect too much draw (above 160W) from the PCIe cables (it's our best guess), to get full 500W+ you need to flash VBIOS 94.02.42.80.27


All the Best, Sergio!





This is great, thanks.  Going to need to go back through and read the whole thread.  
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 08:19:42 (permalink)
so i pulled my card to check the revision and its 0.1 , here is gpuz screen capture. Would you please verify i should RMA?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 12:29:38 (permalink)
Does anyone know how the 8-pin connectors align with naming in GPU-Z? For example, if the card is viewed in the typical scenario (installed horizontally in PCIE slot) then moving from left to right are those #1, #2, #3, or reverse?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 21:10:01 (permalink)
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I've been out of the loop for a while. Wasn't there supposed to be an update to fix the card explosion issue/fan bonkers issue that happened with the New World game? Did that update ever materialize or is EVGA still playing dumb over it and trying to silently sweep it under the rug?




that happens to rev 0.1 cards not to rev 1.0, before New World I reported they did the same on other games also

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 21:20:25 (permalink)
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so i pulled my card to check the revision and its 0.1 , here is gpuz screen capture. Would you please verify i should RMA?




I sent my rev 0.1 not because it was a bad card but for the crazy jumps in Core Clocks. Even though i was using VBIOS XC3, on Port Royal and other benchmarks and with the Hybrid Kit installed clocks dropped too much. Rev 1.0 cards are way more stable and on air they pump better FPS and that reflects benchmarks score and in games, if you put them on water the better. In addition, i found that my rev 1.0 card at less clocks than rev 0.1 scores better, and this is because clocks stay steady till a certain point depending on the load/temp/boots etc, while the rev 0.1 was jumping crazy to lower clocks (1825, 1865 from 2055+). This was also reported by other users here on this thread.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 22:14:39 (permalink)
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Does anyone know how the 8-pin connectors align with naming in GPU-Z? For example, if the card is viewed in the typical scenario (installed horizontally in PCIE slot) then moving from left to right are those #1, #2, #3, or reverse?




#3 towards the back of the PC.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/24 23:15:26 (permalink)
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so i pulled my card to check the revision and its 0.1 , here is gpuz screen capture. Would you please verify i should RMA?




can't see the image...

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/25 14:00:54 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I was just able to make an order for the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Bstock card (24G-P5-3987-RX), what are the chances I'm going to get a card with hardware issues? like the power issues in this thread? I know this card only comes with a 1 year warranty, is there anyway to get more?
 
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arestavo
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/25 15:59:08 (permalink)
I_max2k2
Hi,
 
I was just able to make an order for the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Bstock card (24G-P5-3987-RX), what are the chances I'm going to get a card with hardware issues? like the power issues in this thread? I know this card only comes with a 1 year warranty, is there anyway to get more?
 
Thanks all.


EVGA will take care of you if there is a problem within that 1 year warranty. No, you can't extend that warranty through EVGA: https://www.evga.com/supp...tails.aspx?faqid=59300
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/26 04:52:49 (permalink)
Can anyone tell me the difference between the FTW3 Ultra vBIOS and the FTW3 Hybrid vBIOS? Getting ready to flash my 3090 FTW3 Ultra that I installed a hybrid cooler on after the fact. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I’m assuming maybe the difference would be how the fan control page is laid out?- where it doesn’t show three fan curves since the two radiator fans run from the same header on the card. Just curious if there is any difference in the voltage curve or anything of that sort.

Thanks!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/26 19:02:02 (permalink)
4th card arrived today
v1.0 3090 FTW3 Ultra
450W with the BIOS on it (OC switch)
490 with the XOC 500W BIOS
 
Very happy right now. Will put the waterblock on it over the weekend
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/26 23:37:48 (permalink)
Got my 3090 FTW3 and it seems to be solid so far.  Re-setup my Lancool Mesh II with 3x front unobstructed 140mm fans (no mounting frame, canted, using improvised zip tie mount!!) two are CLC280 fans plus one stock case fan, shroud ramp mod, two bottom T30's, rear GT 2150 and the CLC280 top exhaust with A12's zip tied to it.  Running cool.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/08/27 00:55:54
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/08/27 13:11:50 (permalink)
Brand new sealed card, hybrid FT3 ultra as a replacement '500w special program' 
 
Rev 1.0 - Still only pulling 468.2w in port royal with very high clocks on the 500w XOC bios preloaded in OC mode bios switch
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