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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 08:46:06 (permalink)
Yeah my daily driver is a 3440 x 1440 monitor but it's upstairs and moving my pc up there is a two man (well my and the wife job). Will report back when I have tested it up there, hopefully later today.


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 09:17:54 (permalink)
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I have a 2014 serial card that I am gaming on since Dec 2020. With a 119% power limit it would average between 75-77W, but it has the PCI-E +12 power spikes to 81W at times.
At 100% power limit it usually hovers around 66-70W in most extreme workloads, and most of the time I keep it at 100%, except in some really demanding games, where every frame counts.
 
Also I think I got an above average or even a golden chip, since I was able to undervolt it at a decent clock, and can do 1950 @0.900V, 100% PL, 9752 MHz memory. If I RMA my card there is a big chance that I would get a worse chip, which I don't want to risk, especially since EVGA now is keeping the best bins for the K|NGP|N cards.
 
All BIOSes have low power limits and extreme throttling (XOC and K|NGP|N have massive thottling and I didn't try the 1000W BIOS since it is an idiotic thing to do on air cooling).
 
The only BIOS that worked for me was the XC3 BIOS since the BIOS cannot read the third PCI-E connector, GPU usually doesn't drop below 2050 MHz at 4k during high loads like 3DMark TimeSpy Extreme.
 
Since I am running a high-end mobo (Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero) and a reputable PSU (EVGA 1000 G3), I don't think I should bother RMAing the card, since many people got worse cards after RMA, especially those who are not from the US. 

I don't want to crush your dreams but this isn't a golden sample ;-) The card that I have sent in was 100% game stable 1965mhz@887mv.
Don't get me wrong, your chip is above average but not golden.



Well ... Thank you for crushing my dreams then , anyway I am content with what I have. 
 
On another note, from the posts above, looks like even batches 2112 and 2114 could have the PCI-E problem, so it depends on the luck of the draw.
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 09:36:13 (permalink)
I know intel folks get better scores in these benches but I finally started getting decent results. This is on my revised card with KPE520w bios.
Port Royal: I scored 15 595 in Port Royal
Time Spy (Gfx: 23191): I scored 21 861 in Time Spy

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 09:42:30 (permalink)
Just sent an email off for my card. I've seen up to 86w on PCIe slot.. which is WAY too much. No reply yet, but its still early. I really hope to get a revised card and not the same model.. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 09:55:13 (permalink)
I had a score of 14850 on proyal on my 3090 with the original ventilation.
Since the last update I don't have more than 14185!
Am I the only one with this problem?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 10:07:30 (permalink)
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I had a score of 14850 on proyal on my 3090 with the original ventilation.
Since the last update I don't have more than 14185!
Am I the only one with this problem?


The last update of what exactly?  If it's drivers, my scores have gone up.

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 10:19:31 (permalink)
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Just sent an email off for my card. I've seen up to 86w on PCIe slot.. which is WAY too much. No reply yet, but its still early. I really hope to get a revised card and not the same model.. 


fingers crossed... so far 3 business days and no response :-/
Edit: 
Just got contacted from EVGA to set up RMA... let see how this will play out... Really hope for the best although, I am not an optimist on this regard :-/
post edited by spider1701 - 2021/05/11 10:55:55


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 10:44:57 (permalink)
I'm talking about the last update of port royal.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 11:03:32 (permalink)
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Just sent an email off for my card. I've seen up to 86w on PCIe slot.. which is WAY too much. No reply yet, but its still early. I really hope to get a revised card and not the same model.. 


fingers crossed... so far 3 business days and no response :-/
Edit: 
Just got contacted from EVGA to set up RMA... let see how this will play out... Really hope for the best although, I am not an optimist on this regard :-/


I got a quick response, but they said NO cross ship or advanced RMA. I can't be without a card for this. I have a fan failing too, so I might just try my luck on an advanced RMA with that route. 
 
I don't know why they're not doing a cross. It wasn't my fault that they designed this poorly. For the cost of this card, you'd expect stellar customer service. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 11:12:02 (permalink)
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Just sent an email off for my card. I've seen up to 86w on PCIe slot.. which is WAY too much. No reply yet, but its still early. I really hope to get a revised card and not the same model.. 


fingers crossed... so far 3 business days and no response :-/
Edit: 
Just got contacted from EVGA to set up RMA... let see how this will play out... Really hope for the best although, I am not an optimist on this regard :-/


I got a quick response, but they said NO cross ship or advanced RMA. I can't be without a card for this. I have a fan failing too, so I might just try my luck on an advanced RMA with that route. 
 
I don't know why they're not doing a cross. It wasn't my fault that they designed this poorly. For the cost of this card, you'd expect stellar customer service. 


true...
I can only hope that 3090OC program is providing quality cards… if so, I will gladly wait… rather that or wait till the faulty card burns my PC.
I really hope the 3090OC program is sending revised PCB.
In advanced RMA you probably get standard card with OLD PCB (but that is only wild guess since my card has OLD PCB and bad power balancing issues).


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 11:12:05 (permalink)
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so I might just try my luck on an advanced RMA with that route. 

Just know the source of most RMA cards is other RMAs. I'm sure the pool of RMA'd non-revision cards is MUCH higher than the pool of guaranteed revisions through the email program. 

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 11:14:58 (permalink)
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so I might just try my luck on an advanced RMA with that route. 

Just know the source of most RMA cards is other RMAs. I'm sure the pool of RMA'd non-revision cards is MUCH higher than the pool of guaranteed revisions through the email program. 


Relly hope this is not case of 3090OC program or I would be really pissed


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 11:18:49 (permalink)
Maybe I worded my response poorly. I meant to say the email program, while still probably having previously rma'd cards, seems to at least be sending out revised boards instead of whatever they find lying around.

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 11:29:43 (permalink)
Yeah I was gonna RMA my 400w card but if they won't cross ship I'm not doing it, ridiculous that a company of evga's size and wealth can't cross ship cards to make up for their poor pcb design.

I guess I'll just have to put up with a 400w card until it dies


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 11:29:55 (permalink)
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Maybe I worded my response poorly. I meant to say the email program, while still probably having previously rma'd cards, seems to at least be sending out revised boards instead of whatever they find lying around.

I hope so...
If my RMA will end successfuly I will post what I have got.
 
Update:
I have got information that there is ETA for RMA approval so lets hope it will not take rest of my live.
post edited by spider1701 - 2021/05/11 11:47:37


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 11:34:33 (permalink)
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Yeah I was gonna RMA my 400w card but if they won't cross ship I'm not doing it, ridiculous that a company of evga's size and wealth can't cross ship cards to make up for their poor pcb design.

I guess I'll just have to put up with a 400w card until it dies

According to your screens it is question what will die first PC or CARD. My primary reason for RMA is that freeking PCIE slot power draw which is eating more than PCIE 3 8pin :-/


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 12:30:44 (permalink)
if need someone get this card i can help. I get autonofity but i have already 3090 kngpn.
https://forums.evga.com/I...w3-ultra-m3292141.aspx
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 13:11:31 (permalink)
Well I received my new card today. Serial # 2114. What a difference! I am seeing max board draw of 507.8w with only 66.6w on the PCIE bus! That was just with port royal. Haven't ran time spy extreme yet. Before I touch the card overclock wise, I got a 502.3w board draw. This was just with the BIOS switch in the OC position. I am getting much better scores with way lower overclocks now. The chip in my new card doesn't seem to be quite as good as my original 2014 card, but it scores higher and performs better at lower clocks. So all in all I am extremely happy! With my old card I would struggle to get over 450w board draw with 87+w PCIE draw... Hopefully this will ease some minds of people on the fence about doing the special RMA. The BIOS loaded on this card is different than the newest one I flashed to my old card just last week. The new BIOS on the new card is 94.02.42.C0.02. The newest BIOS I loaded on the old card was 94.02.42.80.27. 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 14:15:54 (permalink)
Just got my 2114 card from the replacement program. Gonna install it after dinner and run some tests. Hoping for the best...

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 14:25:27 (permalink)
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Well I received my new card today. Serial # 2114. What a difference! I am seeing max board draw of 507.8w with only 66.6w on the PCIE bus! That was just with port royal. Haven't ran time spy extreme yet. Before I touch the card overclock wise, I got a 502.3w board draw. This was just with the BIOS switch in the OC position. I am getting much better scores with way lower overclocks now. The chip in my new card doesn't seem to be quite as good as my original 2014 card, but it scores higher and performs better at lower clocks. So all in all I am extremely happy! With my old card I would struggle to get over 450w board draw with 87+w PCIE draw... Hopefully this will ease some minds of people on the fence about doing the special RMA. The BIOS loaded on this card is different than the newest one I flashed to my old card just last week. The new BIOS on the new card is 94.02.42.C0.02. The newest BIOS I loaded on the old card was 94.02.42.80.27. 
 


Europe or US? In either way Congratulations :-)
post edited by spider1701 - 2021/05/11 14:28:58


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 14:34:24 (permalink)
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Just sent an email off for my card. I've seen up to 86w on PCIe slot.. which is WAY too much. No reply yet, but its still early. I really hope to get a revised card and not the same model.. 


fingers crossed... so far 3 business days and no response :-/
Edit: 
Just got contacted from EVGA to set up RMA... let see how this will play out... Really hope for the best although, I am not an optimist on this regard :-/


I got a quick response, but they said NO cross ship or advanced RMA. I can't be without a card for this. I have a fan failing too, so I might just try my luck on an advanced RMA with that route. 
 
I don't know why they're not doing a cross. It wasn't my fault that they designed this poorly. For the cost of this card, you'd expect stellar customer service. 


No advanced RMA!. So if we purchased the advanced RMA when we registered our cards they won't honor it? That's some bad service there.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 14:46:11 (permalink)
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No advanced RMA!. So if we purchased the advanced RMA when we registered our cards they won't honor it? That's some bad service there.

I asked that on the reply. I purchased the Advanced RMA with the Saturday option. If they didn't honor that in this case, I'll be really pissed.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 14:51:25 (permalink)
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No advanced RMA!. So if we purchased the advanced RMA when we registered our cards they won't honor it? That's some bad service there.

I asked that on the reply. I purchased the Advanced RMA with the Saturday option. If they didn't honor that in this case, I'll be really pissed.


I understand if they don't want to do cross ship on the cards for people without an advanced RMA. But for those that purchased the Advanced RMA I feel that they have to honor that. We already paid for a service. Some of us pay for that service for peace of mind and a quick turnaround in case something ever happened. They should not be able to deny that service since that's a service in a per card basis. As far as I know it won't transfer to another card you will have to purchase it again on an RMA card.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 15:22:05 (permalink)
How long did it you guys to get email replies to your "special RMA emails"?


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 15:52:38 (permalink)
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Well I received my new card today. Serial # 2114. What a difference! I am seeing max board draw of 507.8w with only 66.6w on the PCIE bus! That was just with port royal. Haven't ran time spy extreme yet. Before I touch the card overclock wise, I got a 502.3w board draw. This was just with the BIOS switch in the OC position. I am getting much better scores with way lower overclocks now. The chip in my new card doesn't seem to be quite as good as my original 2014 card, but it scores higher and performs better at lower clocks. So all in all I am extremely happy! With my old card I would struggle to get over 450w board draw with 87+w PCIE draw... Hopefully this will ease some minds of people on the fence about doing the special RMA. The BIOS loaded on this card is different than the newest one I flashed to my old card just last week. The new BIOS on the new card is 94.02.42.C0.02. The newest BIOS I loaded on the old card was 94.02.42.80.27. 


Did you get a new in retail box card or a refurbished one? I just sent mine off, fingers crossed I get a new one. Seen a couple people get refurbished ones. Although it would probably be fine and still covered under warranty, it would just leave a bad taste in my mouth with how much the cards cost. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 16:14:43 (permalink)
US... sorry I meant to put that in my last post but forgot
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 16:15:15 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 16:22:06 (permalink)
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Well I received my new card today. Serial # 2114. What a difference! I am seeing max board draw of 507.8w with only 66.6w on the PCIE bus! That was just with port royal. Haven't ran time spy extreme yet. Before I touch the card overclock wise, I got a 502.3w board draw. This was just with the BIOS switch in the OC position. I am getting much better scores with way lower overclocks now. The chip in my new card doesn't seem to be quite as good as my original 2014 card, but it scores higher and performs better at lower clocks. So all in all I am extremely happy! With my old card I would struggle to get over 450w board draw with 87+w PCIE draw... Hopefully this will ease some minds of people on the fence about doing the special RMA. The BIOS loaded on this card is different than the newest one I flashed to my old card just last week. The new BIOS on the new card is 94.02.42.C0.02. The newest BIOS I loaded on the old card was 94.02.42.80.27. 
 


Interesting.. With mine, I can hit 500w with 80.27, but c0.02 limits to ~465w and was the bios that px1 pushed to my card.  Did you at least max out the power slider?
 
I wish EVGA would tell us how to know if we have affected boards.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 16:25:34 (permalink)
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No advanced RMA!. So if we purchased the advanced RMA when we registered our cards they won't honor it? That's some bad service there.

I asked that on the reply. I purchased the Advanced RMA with the Saturday option. If they didn't honor that in this case, I'll be really pissed.


I understand if they don't want to do cross ship on the cards for people without an advanced RMA. But for those that purchased the Advanced RMA I feel that they have to honor that. We already paid for a service. Some of us pay for that service for peace of mind and a quick turnaround in case something ever happened. They should not be able to deny that service since that's a service in a per card basis. As far as I know it won't transfer to another card you will have to purchase it again on an RMA card.


They honored my next day air saver advanced RMA. I put the initial email in last Wednesday and got my new card today. There was a delay of a day because I hadn't uploaded the invoice yet... new card shipped yesterday and made it cross country in less than 24 hours. I will ship out my 2014 card tomorrow. So it cost me $44 to buy the EAR for my new 2114 card and I'm ok with that. Shipping was paid both ways and I was able to keep my handicapped card until I got my new one. In my opinion EVGA really stepped up for those of us that were having issues by offering this special RMA. I know a lot of people think they should have done a recall, but I'm hoping they have the issue ironed out and anyone that wants a new card has the option to get one. The other thing I was excited about was my new card has black lips! No more clown lips in my system, and I have a properly functioning card! lol.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/05/11 17:05:59 (permalink)
Wow I hope they step up for me too I'm still waiting on a reply to my email about the card only pulling 400 watts and 80+ through the pcie slot. Did u purchase the advanced rma Before you submitted the email?


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