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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/08 21:41:48 (permalink)
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Your situation may be an outlier? Or maybe mine is, but I play cyberpunk at +1300 Ram and 2050 core all day long. The card will only draw the watts when it needs it.

yea cyberpunk I get above 2000mhz, I'm hitting CPU limits in that game and GPU is under 100% load all the time, Borderlands 3 drops slightly below 2000mhz at times and so does RDR2. what are your temps while playing, and what fan speed? once my temps go past around 73c clocks start to hit 2010mhz, then temps climb even higher and it's over. drops below 2K and stays there untill the next CPU bottleneck give the GPU some breathing room.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/08 21:43:40 (permalink)
I installed a Hybrid card today on my 3090 FTW3 Ultra with a working 500W bios. Just wanted to share my results with you guys. If your thinking about buying it do it! I reused the stock brace as it seems to lock down the block better and replaced the thermal paste with some Thermal Grizzly. Whole process took about 2 hours taking my time to clean. I have one concern and its with Msi Kombustor, After running it for 10 min my GPU2 temp was VERY high (Ram on the back of the card). In game I see anywhere from 10c-18c lower temps. Call of duty runs at 55c now! Pretty happy with the results for only $150 (after taxes). All my scores will be linked below 3dmark scores are now almost 15,000!!!
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/754467 (Current best run with new Water cooler) +205 core +975 mem 500w Bios
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/754467/pr/735792 Results of best run on air Vs Hybrid cooler
 

 
 
My temps in Kombustor after 10 min at 1440p, See the GPU2 running pretty toasty. Might need to switch up the thermal pads on the back of the card.
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/08 21:44:53 (permalink)
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Your wrong dude - I am getting 200fps in cod Cold War at 4K 21:9. I don’t think I have seen anyone getting that many frames in that game at 4K



I get 240+ in cod my bro... Whats ur 3dmark score with 1300+ mem in Port Royal?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/08 22:33:56 (permalink)
In games my temps do not go over 60. I use px1 500w oc bios, and have the fans set to auto. I do have a good amount of case fans - but the card on auto fans during cod never goes above 60 and I am 200+FPS at 4K 2055+ core 1300+ Ram
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/08 22:41:34 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/08 22:47:12 (permalink)
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Your wrong dude - I am getting 200fps in cod Cold War at 4K 21:9. I don’t think I have seen anyone getting that many frames in that game at 4K



I get 240+ in cod my bro... Whats ur 3dmark score with 1300+ mem in Port Royal?


You do not get 200fps. I get under 200 fps at 1440p with everything maxed out.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/08 22:53:16 (permalink)
I do get 200 FPS dude - you don’t know what you are doing and that’s pretty obvious by your subpar 1440 results, lmao
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/08 23:23:09 (permalink)
Congrats @Notchy44 on the port scores. 
You have a rare gem of a card!! Thanks for the detailed post.


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 00:47:36 (permalink)
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Your wrong dude - I am getting 200fps in cod Cold War at 4K 21:9. I don’t think I have seen anyone getting that many frames in that game at 4K



I get 240+ in cod my bro... Whats ur 3dmark score with 1300+ mem in Port Royal?


You do not get 200fps. I get under 200 fps at 1440p with everything maxed out.




Oh I dont? 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxNKfHHK_rU
This is before I put on the Hybrid water cooler lol
 
Sorry that your computer just isnt up to pair and gets under 200 fps in 1440p with everything maxed out lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 04:01:12 (permalink)
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Your wrong dude - I am getting 200fps in cod Cold War at 4K 21:9. I don’t think I have seen anyone getting that many frames in that game at 4K



I get 240+ in cod my bro... Whats ur 3dmark score with 1300+ mem in Port Royal?


You do not get 200fps. I get under 200 fps at 1440p with everything maxed out.




Oh I dont? 
 

This is before I put on the Hybrid water cooler lol
 
Sorry that your computer just isnt up to pair and gets under 200 fps in 1440p with everything maxed out lol


It seems that you are talking about different games, and in the origin post they didn't mention game and hardware settings. It's difficult to get 100+fps at real 4K (16:9, not 21:9 1440) in COD Cold War with DLSS off and Ray-tracing on 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 04:05:01 (permalink)
XOC beta bios thread about a problem that seems to impact a huge number of people and we've got these guys measuring e-dicks. cmon, get a grip.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 05:12:31 (permalink)
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XOC beta bios thread about a problem that seems to impact a huge number of people and we've got these guys measuring e-dicks. cmon, get a grip.


LOL, yea.
I'm not really seeing a problem like others are having with not being able to hit 500w power usage
My GPU can hit and hold sustained power draw of very close to 500w while benchmarking or gaming, problem is the GPU hits high temps (mid 70s @ 100% fan speed) while the user evgablee says he is using the 500w bios and hits 60c temps on auto fan speed. I can't even sustain 60C on 100 PL, my caseflow Is good I have (3_ 140mm fans pulling air in from the front (unobstructed) (2) 140mm fans pulling air out on top thru the CPU 240 rad, (1) 140mm fan pulling air out the back, and (1) 140mm fan pulling air out from the side right next to the GPU. I'm hitting temps 5c over ambient.
@evgablee, are you certain you are hitting sustained 500w or close power draw while getting 60c temps.
not sure If I should pull the cooler and re-apply the TIM, I just can't see how I could hit below ambient temps on air cooling...
See attached screnshots for power draw (right click on image and open in new tab for the bigger picture)
this is while playing BL3 @ 500w, OC 669mem/120core can't even break 2000mhz in this game due to temp. lowering the core clock and power draw to around 430w allows me to hold temps @ around 69-70c @ custom fan curve (of 10% more fan speed than temp, 70c +80% fan speed) and sustain in game clocks 2000mhz +
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 05:57:12 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 08:48:32 (permalink)
i have the same ViewSonic Elite , and yes in Warzone it is truly capable to run at over 200fps, even though , i cap the frame rate to match the monitors 165hz, truly a smooth experience. and thats on STOCK OC bios with +90mhz core +250 mem. If it ain't broken don't fix it they say. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 09:45:08 (permalink)
200 FPS is possible on Warzone and Modern Warfare at max settings, yes.  NOT in Cold War.  And this is at 1080p.
CW runs much worse than MW/WZ (WZ uses the MW engine), despite being a much older, uglier engine (the only thing that looks nice about CW are the 4k textures).
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 09:49:42 (permalink)
So I did some Overclocking using the voltage curve and have had excellent results.
by Under Volting the GPU to use a max of 975mv at 2100mhz I can OC the memory +669 (1000 GB/s bandwidth) I can hold a stable 2100mhz clock in game while only using around 400w, I set the PL to 119% just to eliminate to possibility to hit a power wall, also temps stay below 70c.
If I lower the core clock to 2055mhz I can use a constant 950mv and use around 380w of power and keep temps at around 65c
If I lower the core clock to 2010mhz I can use a constant 925mv and use around 360w of power and keep temps at low 60s
Amazing! and If the core clock does drop it's for a split second before it goes back up and only drops by like 15mhz.  If just gaming on Air cooling give voltage curve overclocking a shot you will hit higher overclocks at a considerably lower power draw and temperatures. IMO for gaming you don't even really need the 500w bios unless you're trying to hit insane overclocks.
see screenshot for result. I had a few small blips of 2085mhz drops, maybe need a small nudge of voltage for 2100mhz constant.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 10:16:22 (permalink)
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Your wrong dude - I am getting 200fps in cod Cold War at 4K 21:9. I don’t think I have seen anyone getting that many frames in that game at 4K

You can look on any online benchmark and see that this is not possible, unless you use ultra performance dlss that just lowers the resolution anyways. Obvious that you don't own the card.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 10:19:54 (permalink)
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Your wrong dude - I am getting 200fps in cod Cold War at 4K 21:9. I don’t think I have seen anyone getting that many frames in that game at 4K



I get 240+ in cod my bro... Whats ur 3dmark score with 1300+ mem in Port Royal?


You do not get 200fps. I get under 200 fps at 1440p with everything maxed out.




Oh I dont? 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxNKfHHK_rU
This is before I put on the Hybrid water cooler lol
 
Sorry that your computer just isnt up to pair and gets under 200 fps in 1440p with everything maxed out lol


This is warzone not cold war. Much easier to run.



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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 10:45:14 (permalink)
I just want to know if they're working on an update to this BIOS Some people have said EVGA is working on one but I can't find anything myself to support that.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 11:38:47 (permalink)
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I just want to know if they're working on an update to this BIOS Some people have said EVGA is working on one but I can't find anything myself to support that.


what is wrong with the bios?
I think the issues some people are having is with the hardware. Some GPUs are pulling too much watts at the PCIe and with the load balancing the GPU can't pull any more power even with the 500w Bios, you can try doing a PCIe shunt mod, all you need is a resistor and a 2.5mm thermal pad, and all that is necessary is taking off the back plate and placing the resistor down and clamping it down with the bakcplate, no soldering required.
My GPU is not having any of these issues, and I can pull 500w continuously without the shunt mod.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 11:44:27 (permalink)
I think my card is fine but I don't want to put this BIOS on it because of the plethora of issues people are having in this thread. My card easily hits its original 450W limit fine in benchmarks and heavy games and my PCI-e slot usually hovers around 77W. I would just feel better about EVGA acknowledging some of these issues and providing an new BIOS at some point soon. My card already overclocks pretty well (+140 core / +550 mem) so I really want to see what it can do with the limit raised. I suppose I couldn't hurt anything trying it but I'd rather wait for a new version.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 11:54:37 (permalink)
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I think my card is fine but I don't want to put this BIOS on it because of the plethora of issues people are having in this thread. My card easily hits its original 450W limit fine in benchmarks and heavy games and my PCI-e slot usually hovers around 77W. I would just feel better about EVGA acknowledging some of these issues and providing an new BIOS at some point soon. My card already overclocks pretty well (+140 core / +550 mem) so I really want to see what it can do with the limit raised. I suppose I couldn't hurt anything trying it but I'd rather wait for a new version.


Air cooler is not enough for 500W, you will get nothing more out of it without exotic cooling.
with the Air cooler I suggest undervolting the GPU for better Overclocks , decreased power draw, and lower temperatures.
If you don't mind me asking what is you core clock in game/benchmark while hitting 450w power draw and what is the temperature.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 12:02:48 (permalink)
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I think my card is fine but I don't want to put this BIOS on it because of the plethora of issues people are having in this thread. My card easily hits its original 450W limit fine in benchmarks and heavy games and my PCI-e slot usually hovers around 77W. I would just feel better about EVGA acknowledging some of these issues and providing an new BIOS at some point soon. My card already overclocks pretty well (+140 core / +550 mem) so I really want to see what it can do with the limit raised. I suppose I couldn't hurt anything trying it but I'd rather wait for a new version.


Air cooler is not enough for 500W, you will get nothing more out of it without exotic cooling.
with the Air cooler I suggest undervolting the GPU for better Overclocks , decreased power draw, and lower temperatures.
If you don't mind me asking what is you core clock in game/benchmark while hitting 450w power draw and what is the temperature.


Not true at all... Air cooled is fine with 500w. I saw a 500 point increase with this bios when I was on air. Temps raised to 70c but well under what I was comfortable with. Will you see a much higher score on water? Yes see my post above when I went to the hybrid cooler. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 12:04:00 (permalink)
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XOC beta bios thread about a problem that seems to impact a huge number of people and we've got these guys measuring e-dicks. cmon, get a grip.




This thread is to share results of a working bios not just to **** about hardware related issues with the bios.... Post away
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 12:15:15 (permalink)
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I think my card is fine but I don't want to put this BIOS on it because of the plethora of issues people are having in this thread. My card easily hits its original 450W limit fine in benchmarks and heavy games and my PCI-e slot usually hovers around 77W. I would just feel better about EVGA acknowledging some of these issues and providing an new BIOS at some point soon. My card already overclocks pretty well (+140 core / +550 mem) so I really want to see what it can do with the limit raised. I suppose I couldn't hurt anything trying it but I'd rather wait for a new version.


Air cooler is not enough for 500W, you will get nothing more out of it without exotic cooling.
with the Air cooler I suggest undervolting the GPU for better Overclocks , decreased power draw, and lower temperatures.
If you don't mind me asking what is you core clock in game/benchmark while hitting 450w power draw and what is the temperature.


Not true at all... Air cooled is fine with 500w. I saw a 500 point increase with this bios when I was on air. Temps raised to 70c but well under what I was comfortable with. Will you see a much higher score on water? Yes see my post above when I went to the hybrid cooler. 


hmm. I can't get temps below 75 @ 500w with fans at 100%
I get better results and higher clocks when I undervolt the GPU and limit power draw. obviously I can't achieve a maximum possible OC that way but at least the core clock does not drop due to thermals. I should probably pull the cooler and replace the TIM
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 12:17:25 (permalink)
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I think my card is fine but I don't want to put this BIOS on it because of the plethora of issues people are having in this thread. My card easily hits its original 450W limit fine in benchmarks and heavy games and my PCI-e slot usually hovers around 77W. I would just feel better about EVGA acknowledging some of these issues and providing an new BIOS at some point soon. My card already overclocks pretty well (+140 core / +550 mem) so I really want to see what it can do with the limit raised. I suppose I couldn't hurt anything trying it but I'd rather wait for a new version.


Air cooler is not enough for 500W, you will get nothing more out of it without exotic cooling.
with the Air cooler I suggest undervolting the GPU for better Overclocks , decreased power draw, and lower temperatures.
If you don't mind me asking what is you core clock in game/benchmark while hitting 450w power draw and what is the temperature.


Not true at all... Air cooled is fine with 500w. I saw a 500 point increase with this bios when I was on air. Temps raised to 70c but well under what I was comfortable with. Will you see a much higher score on water? Yes see my post above when I went to the hybrid cooler. 


hmm. I can't get temps below 75 @ 500w with fans at 100%
I get better results and higher clocks when I undervolt the GPU and limit power draw. obviously I can't achieve a maximum possible OC that way but at least the core clock does not drop due to thermals. I should probably pull the cooler and replace the TIM




Do you have bottom fans blowing cold air up into the card? Seems like that was a BIG help for me. In games at 4k I would never see above 70c at 85% fan speed. Benchmarking I had a avg of around 63c at 100% fan speed on air. Here is a link to my best air cooled vs Hybrid cooled. https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/754467/pr/735792
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 16:54:03 (permalink)
Does any one know why when running a heavy raytracing game, it draws more power? Does it have to do with the core or vram over clock? My undervolt OC holds 2000mhz when up to temps at any non rt game with +750 mem, but when i play a game with Ray tracing, I start bumping power limit again and drops my clocks to 1900ish. Does ray tracing  games use more vram and cause the added power draw making me hit power limit?  Thanks
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 18:36:32 (permalink)
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Does any one know why when running a heavy raytracing game, it draws more power? Does it have to do with the core or vram over clock? My undervolt OC holds 2000mhz when up to temps at any non rt game with +750 mem, but when i play a game with Ray tracing, I start bumping power limit again and drops my clocks to 1900ish. Does ray tracing  games use more vram and cause the added power draw making me hit power limit?  Thanks


I am by no means an expert, but I do remember reading somewhere that RT does increase vram usage quite a bit. So makes sense that there could be a higher power draw.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 18:52:44 (permalink)
Hmmm... signed up for notify on 3090 Hybrid and been with EVGA for like 15 years. Some random video on the tube popped up and said boycott blah blah blah... honestly don’t think it will sway me as I’m not gonna push it to its absolute limits and EVGA has been good to me but apparently have some reading to do
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/09 18:58:08 (permalink)
Maybe I’m not understanding the first post on the page correctly, but is there no link to the original OC BIOS for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid? All I see is the Normal BIOS and the XOC BIOS.
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