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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 16:15:09
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Sigh.. just had another black screen freeze for about 8 seconds right after typing that.. only had firefox open with 4 tabs, and Precision X ..nothing else. And this is just after finishing a full fresh install of windows. :/
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 16:15:38
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this has been brought up before and I tested it for myself, but has anyone done any benchmarking with memory OCing only? The 3090s, and 3080s as well I would assume, have ECC memory which will add latency to your frametimes if it detects any errors. I tested the latency only, not the frame rate. But what I saw was huge latency spikes the higher the OC was, decreasing to certain extent as I lowered it, and the only clock speed where I saw no added latency was at 0, or stock. I'm just curious if anyone has some benchmarks to compare with just memory OC'd?
Here’s my data with just memory OCs in PR, core at 0 offset:
Memory
0: 13445
200: 13472
400: 13489
600: 13544
800: 13557
1000: 13569
1100: 13587
1150: 13590
1175: 13589
1200: 13588
1250: 13580
1300: 13546
1400: 13581
1600: crash
Awesome, thanks. Clearly it does help performance. Not a big difference, about .8% boost, although there may be titles where it’s more or less effective.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 16:28:32
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8jCpp1xNQr0&t=176s
Evga you got any more of them pcie power boosts being made?? Lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 16:48:49
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I would say if you’re using a decent PSU with good OCP, bypassing the 8pin fuses won’t increase risk much, if at all. The OCP in a PSU should detect an overcurrent situation and be able to react much faster than the fuses. However, I wouldn’t bypass the PCIe fuse as I’m not completely sure how the OCP is handled with it and you’re liable to take out the slot if not the entire motherboard.
Edit - If I were to guess, I’d say the fuses were added to save EVGA on repairing/replacing cards under warranty, especially ones that had been shunt modded prior to being returned. Much easier for them to “brick” the card and only have to replace a fuse rather than replace the entire card each time. I’ve done shunt mods on a few generations of cards, but I’ve always stayed away from the PCIe slot, and only modded the ones for the 8pin connectors.
My SMD fuses will be here tomorrow and the hot air gun comes the day after that so I think I can wait. In reality - my whole reason for wanting to go fuseless on the PCI-E shunt is just to verify that in fact that's the reason why the card won't let me post.
Can you describe what the owner of the card was doing when the fuse blew? Gaming, benchmarking, stress testing? I’ll PM if I don’t hear back.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 17:09:31
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https://m.youtube.com/wat..=8jCpp1xNQr0&t=176s
Evga you got any more of them pcie power boosts being made?? Lol
That child is so angry that he has to modify a graphics card to get it to perform above its advertised spec. Then he tells people to modify the card in a way to make it harder to tell it was modified for when you blow it up and have to RMA it. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 17:22:28
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All that stupid trouble to get 1.75fps at 4k, people can get happy to use a product like it should and have fun.
You think this guy happy after done this ? No he want more.
Use ur stuff, have fun playing games and you will get better performance in 3 years when they will release the rtx-4000. The card just came out and some are not happy with that beast in game....**** !
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 18:08:45
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 18:17:17
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https://m.youtube.com/wat..=8jCpp1xNQr0&t=176s
Evga you got any more of them pcie power boosts being made?? Lol
That child is so angry that he has to modify a graphics card to get it to perform above its advertised spec. Then he tells people to modify the card in a way to make it harder to tell it was modified for when you blow it up and have to RMA it.
Quite surprised if EVGA legal team is not looking into this guy and getting ready to send him a cease and desist letter. I would.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 19:11:07
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Nereus
Sigh.. just had another black screen freeze for about 8 seconds right after typing that.. only had firefox open with 4 tabs, and Precision X ..nothing else. And this is just after finishing a full fresh install of windows. :/
The Asus 3080 Tuf OC I picked up while in the EVGA Q also 'pauses' with a black screen occasionally (never gaming but web browsing / streaming) - my 2 week old 3090 FTW3 Ultra doesn't. I've swapped the cards between rigs and the black screen moves with the Asus. I'm waiting to see what happens with the next one or two driver releases before doing an RMA on the Asus.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 20:02:24
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All that stupid trouble to get 1.75fps at 4k, people can get happy to use a product like it should and have fun.
Kind of judgey over people who enjoy building rigs for benchmarking. Everyone has their thing. You may be a casual gamer, he's a benchmarker. To each their own. I used to enjoy chasing benchmarks but people have a lot more time and money than they used to so it became less fun to me.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 20:09:29
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@dark and @lord I see you two on the FSU HOF at #16 and #28! I’m creeping up behind you at #31. Nice to see the true EVGA representation there.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 21:24:32
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manatane
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Can u say for which card they sent u the bios ? Its saying no compatible display adapters found even if have ID of Ultra or Non Ultra
yeah same here, tried both the OC and the Normal file
I wonder if will need to go back to the original bios from factory before it will let us flash these.
I tried on my Normal bios switch, I never flashed that bios to the new Beta Normal bios yet. Also when I switched back to the OC bios I had to reinstall the beta OC drivers again to get my full 500 watt power again. I wonder if anyone is switching back and forth and not running the oc.exe again.
Are you just swapping bios and driver randomly there or did I (we all) miss a beta OC driver that would be needed to get that bios to work ?!
Also, are you saying that reflashing the oc bios over (despite it being already present on the oc switch) after switching to normal and then back to oc helped you getting the 500w again ?
Yes , refreshing the file that is provided on the front page of this forum ( If you look at the file is called OC.exe dont know why people are questioning what it is lol) did fix my power slider issues and im fully back to 500+ watts again.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 21:25:56
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I tried on my Normal bios switch, I never flashed that bios to the new Beta Normal bios yet. Also when I switched back to the OC bios I had to reinstall the beta OC drivers again to get my full 500 watt power again. I wonder if anyone is switching back and forth and not running the oc.exe again.
What is oc.exe ???
Its the file that EVGA provided to flash the 500 watt beta onto the card..?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/18 21:27:47
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I tried on my Normal bios switch, I never flashed that bios to the new Beta Normal bios yet. Also when I switched back to the OC bios I had to reinstall the beta OC drivers again to get my full 500 watt power again. I wonder if anyone is switching back and forth and not running the oc.exe again.
What is oc.exe ???
Ditto.. what the heck is that?
firmware update aka nvflash in .exe, dont worry it doesnt work.
Works for me as intended. Not everyone is having the same issues.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 01:19:52
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https://m.youtube.com/wat..=8jCpp1xNQr0&t=176s
Evga you got any more of them pcie power boosts being made?? Lol
PLEASE DONT LISTEN TO HIM ! Even with pcie power boost, youre not supposed to draw high current through small pcie finger pinout, theres a reason why pcie is power limited, also theres a fuse that will blow if u overload pcie regardless of power boost. That guy has no idea what hes talking about, hes not relevant.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 01:21:03
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Notchy44
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I tried on my Normal bios switch, I never flashed that bios to the new Beta Normal bios yet. Also when I switched back to the OC bios I had to reinstall the beta OC drivers again to get my full 500 watt power again. I wonder if anyone is switching back and forth and not running the oc.exe again.
What is oc.exe ???
Ditto.. what the heck is that?
firmware update aka nvflash in .exe, dont worry it doesnt work.
Works for me as intended. Not everyone is having the same issues.
From scientific point of view we have to take it as youre the only one its working for rn, so youre rather exception than a rule. I was trying to replicate your situation but had no luck for now.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 01:31:04
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I tried on my Normal bios switch, I never flashed that bios to the new Beta Normal bios yet. Also when I switched back to the OC bios I had to reinstall the beta OC drivers again to get my full 500 watt power again. I wonder if anyone is switching back and forth and not running the oc.exe again.
What is oc.exe ???
Ditto.. what the heck is that?
firmware update aka nvflash in .exe, dont worry it doesnt work.
Works for me as intended. Not everyone is having the same issues.
From scientific point of view we have to take it as youre the only one its working for rn, so youre rather exception than a rule. I was trying to replicate your situation but had no luck for now.
I highly doubt I’m the only one it’s working for, on this forum Iv already seen a few people reach out saying it’s working. Unfortunately most people are not like me and post on forums like this when something works. I have a friend that has a ftw3 being delivered tomorrow, I will repeat the same step I did and see if his card works with the 500 watt bios in his computer.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 01:43:21
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Notchy44
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I tried on my Normal bios switch, I never flashed that bios to the new Beta Normal bios yet. Also when I switched back to the OC bios I had to reinstall the beta OC drivers again to get my full 500 watt power again. I wonder if anyone is switching back and forth and not running the oc.exe again.
What is oc.exe ???
Ditto.. what the heck is that?
firmware update aka nvflash in .exe, dont worry it doesnt work.
Works for me as intended. Not everyone is having the same issues.
From scientific point of view we have to take it as youre the only one its working for rn, so youre rather exception than a rule. I was trying to replicate your situation but had no luck for now.
I highly doubt I’m the only one it’s working for, on this forum Iv already seen a few people reach out saying it’s working. Unfortunately most people are not like me and post on forums like this when something works. I have a friend that has a ftw3 being delivered tomorrow, I will repeat the same step I did and see if his card works with the 500 watt bios in his computer.
I only know u for now, havent seen others, okay doesnt matter. Can u maybe record a video with exact steps so we can replicate in 1:1 ?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 01:49:08
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I mean if it works on my friends computer I’ll do another video showing it works. I can also do a write up of the exact steps as well.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 02:27:07
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Turbo-12R
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sirien
https://m.youtube.com/wat..=8jCpp1xNQr0&t=176s
Evga you got any more of them pcie power boosts being made?? Lol
That child is so angry that he has to modify a graphics card to get it to perform above its advertised spec. Then he tells people to modify the card in a way to make it harder to tell it was modified for when you blow it up and have to RMA it.
Quite surprised if EVGA legal team is not looking into this guy and getting ready to send him a cease and desist letter. I would.
Im gonna assume framechaser... that noob is finally on port royal ladder... Pretty ****ty ocer from what i can tell, especially with those temps on that result. 🙄
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 02:32:23
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sirien
https://m.youtube.com/wat..=8jCpp1xNQr0&t=176s
Evga you got any more of them pcie power boosts being made?? Lol
That child is so angry that he has to modify a graphics card to get it to perform above its advertised spec. Then he tells people to modify the card in a way to make it harder to tell it was modified for when you blow it up and have to RMA it.
Quite surprised if EVGA legal team is not looking into this guy and getting ready to send him a cease and desist letter. I would.
Im gonna assume framechaser... that noob is finally on port royal ladder... Pretty ****ty ocer from what i can tell, especially with those temps on that result.
🙄
IDK why someone cares about 3Dmark ladders, nobody from XOC scene cares about it, look at HWBot results.. I was never on any 3DMark ladders and despite this I have some very high scores in FireStrike etc
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 07:21:47
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Yeah
That 10amp on the PCIe means 120watt max and that fuse will likely blow.
A safe margin may be around 80% of the fuse rating so going over 96watt is starting to move into the danger zone.
It seems evga has it set to limit around 75w which is about 63% of the fuse, conservative and safe.
With that fuse in play at 96w you would need to draw 135w on each of the three 8 pin plugs to draw 500w total.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 07:24:42
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EVGA does not have it set to 75w. I've seen 86w through the PCIe slot in GPUz on stock bios and XOC.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 08:02:12
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So the consensus is these beta BIOS wont increase your performance, despite it raises the total board power limit to 500Watt
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 08:07:11
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So the consensus is these beta BIOS wont increase your performance, despite it raises the total board power limit to 500Watt
No. (with the exception of that one person who was complaining about it, but at least 4 others that I saw did see improvements with cards that did work at/around 500W - in this thread) But you're not going to see huge gains.
post edited by arestavo - 2020/11/19 08:09:16
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 08:25:40
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Yes , refreshing the file that is provided on the front page of this forum ( If you look at the file is called OC.exe dont know why people are questioning what it is lol) did fix my power slider issues and im fully back to 500+ watts again.
Unless I'm missing something, isn't it called update.exe ?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 08:37:05
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I dont see any update and the file is the same name as before
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 08:45:23
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I dont see any update and the file is the same name as before
The links on the first page contain a file called update.exe, not OC.exe. So has something changed? 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 09:11:38
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EVGA does not have it set to 75w. I've seen 86w through the PCIe slot in GPUz on stock bios and XOC.
I believe it is set/intended to be right around 75W from what I have read and seen myself. A spike above for a period of time is likely an anomaly. I ran a test today to graphically show this. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/19 09:13:01
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No its the same 3987_BIOS_OC and inside the folder the name and size is the same : update.exe 19 141 ko.
Name is update.exe coz its a simple way under windows to update to this bios, but theres no new update for now. When they will put an update the name 3987 will change.
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