Hi Sergio. Thanks for all the great posts. I just received my evga ftw3 ultra hybrid card. Its pulling 460 watt max on the 500 watt oc bios. Will flashing the xoc bios allow 500watt power draw and will it mess up the fans on my hybrid card. Kind regards. Francis

As stated quite a lot on the past 20 pages, if you force flash (as in, not use EVGA's tool, but rather use NVFlash with the -f register) the 0.1 rev 500W VBIOS onto a 1.0 rev card, you'll pull the full 500W.

Frantastic1
Hi Sergio. Thanks for all the great posts. I just received my evga ftw3 ultra hybrid card. Its pulling 460 watt max on the 500 watt oc bios. Will flashing the xoc bios allow 500watt power draw and will it mess up the fans on my hybrid card. Kind regards. Francis

My pleasure bro, as stated before I flashed 94.02.42.80.27 VBIOS as I'm on FTW3 Ultra Air, not the Hybrid. I don't know what can happen to the fans because it will update the card's firmware, but I don't think there's a VBIOS like this for the Hybrid, maybe someone can help with this?
 
Cheers, Sergio!

Hi,
 
Got hold of a EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra to start some overclocking for better performance.
 
I'm quite new to the oc business and I have tried to read as much as possible in this forum about the power balance issue. My card has S/N starting with: 2012 and black lips, have updated the BIOS through Precision X1 and have BIOS version: 94.02.42.80.AD with Re-BAR enabled in BIOS slot 1 (Normal) and BIOS version: 94.02.42.80.27 with Re-BAR enabled in BIOS slot 2 (OC).
 
Could someone please write a simple tutorial how to best test if my card has power balancing issues and if it draws to much power from the PCIe slot?
 
Do I have the right BIOS versions, should I run the BIOS switch in Normal or OC mode? Should I do the overclocking with EVGA Precision X1 or MSI Afterburner and what oc settings should I use for either software? Should I use GPU-Z or HWMONITOR to monitor how much power my card draws from the different connections? How is the total power calculated? What benchmark or test software should I use to run the power load test, is Port Royal the only one that's good enough, is there any ok free alternatives since 3DMark Port Royal costs money.
 
Thanks in advance!
 
 

yangning8109
I flashed both 94.02.42.80.27 (Rev 0.1 500W) and 94.02.42.C0.02 (Rev 1.0 500W) VBIOS to my Rev 1.0 card, then ran 3Dmark multiple times to try to get Time Spy score as high as possible. I got ~1% higher score with 94.02.42.80.27 VBIOS. 
Rev 0.1 500W VBIOS pulls 505W MAX and Rev 1.0 500W VBIOS pulls 478W MAX in Time Spy test. However, I notices some display error (some lattices with abnormal color) when loading 3Dmark (not in Time Spy test) with Rev 0.1 500W VBIOS on my Rev 1.0 card (it returns normal after flashed to Rev 1.0 VBIOS, so it can't be hardware issue). I think that's a point why Jacob suggested not to flash Rev 0.1 to your Rev 1.0 card, there could be some compatibility issues since Rev 1.0 card has different PCB design, DrMOS and PWM controller.
Here is my Rev 1.0 card. (Original link https://ibb.co/zn396mj)
 

no it's not that it's because the 500W+ VBIOS will load the heck out the PCIe cables from the PSU at 160W+ easy

yangning8109
I flashed both 94.02.42.80.27 (Rev 0.1 500W) and 94.02.42.C0.02 (Rev 1.0 500W) VBIOS to my Rev 1.0 card, then ran 3Dmark multiple times to try to get Time Spy score as high as possible. I got ~1% higher score with 94.02.42.80.27 VBIOS. 
 

A 1% difference is within margin of error for the test.

AlpAne
Hi,
 
Got hold of a EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra to start some overclocking for better performance.
 
I'm quite new to the oc business and I have tried to read as much as possible in this forum about the power balance issue. My card has S/N starting with: 2012 and black lips, have updated the BIOS through Precision X1 and have BIOS version: 94.02.42.80.AD with Re-BAR enabled in BIOS slot 1 (Normal) and BIOS version: 94.02.42.80.27 with Re-BAR enabled in BIOS slot 2 (OC).
 
Could someone please write a simple tutorial how to best test if my card has power balancing issues and if it draws to much power from the PCIe slot?
 
Do I have the right BIOS versions, should I run the BIOS switch in Normal or OC mode? Should I do the overclocking with EVGA Precision X1 or MSI Afterburner and what oc settings should I use for either software? Should I use GPU-Z or HWMONITOR to monitor how much power my card draws from the different connections? How is the total power calculated? What benchmark or test software should I use to run the power load test, is Port Royal the only one that's good enough, is there any ok free alternatives since 3DMark Port Royal costs money.
 
Thanks in advance!

 
Anyone who can point me in the right direction, please!
 

Mivis
So, my card is rev 0.1 pulling about 450watts. I want to water cool my pc. Shoould I rma to get a rev 1.0 to be able to get the 500watts as supposed? Thank you!

RMA it. I've been through 2 RMA's now with Rev 0.1 cards each time. Hoping I get a Rev 1.0 in the mail today.
Rev 0.1's are very finicky. I've had Halo: MCC cause one to die. The second one I just immediately RMA'd through 3090oc@evga.com
 
Edit: Nevermind another rev 0.1....

You will get 14800 port royal and the benchmark will run with an average of 2115mhz

AlpAne

AlpAne
Hi,

Got hold of a EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra to start some overclocking for better performance.

I'm quite new to the oc business and I have tried to read as much as possible in this forum about the power balance issue. My card has S/N starting with: 2012 and black lips, have updated the BIOS through Precision X1 and have BIOS version: 94.02.42.80.AD with Re-BAR enabled in BIOS slot 1 (Normal) and BIOS version: 94.02.42.80.27 with Re-BAR enabled in BIOS slot 2 (OC).

Could someone please write a simple tutorial how to best test if my card has power balancing issues and if it draws to much power from the PCIe slot?

Do I have the right BIOS versions, should I run the BIOS switch in Normal or OC mode? Should I do the overclocking with EVGA Precision X1 or MSI Afterburner and what oc settings should I use for either software? Should I use GPU-Z or HWMONITOR to monitor how much power my card draws from the different connections? How is the total power calculated? What benchmark or test software should I use to run the power load test, is Port Royal the only one that's good enough, is there any ok free alternatives since 3DMark Port Royal costs money.

Thanks in advance!

 
Anyone who can point me in the right direction, please!
 

Most people use GPU-Z to see the PCIE slot and PCIE plug power, while using something that really loads the GPU - like Time Spy Extreme, Doom Eternal (max settings, no vysync or gsync), or the like.

PCIE slot power shouldn't exceed 67W as read by GPU-Z. I'm tired of writing out why, so in short - GPU-Z only reads 12V and not 12V + 3V power. If you want a more in-depth explanation, flip back over the last 20 pages and it is bound to pop up.

Fire_2
Brand new sealed card, hybrid FT3 ultra as a replacement '500w special program' 
 
Rev 1.0 - Still only pulling 468.2w in port royal with very high clocks on the 500w XOC bios preloaded in OC mode bios switch

 
Please read all I posted about this...XOC pre-loaded VBIOS won't do 500W for many reasons, you need to flash the VBIOS I mentioned (94.02.42.80.27) to get 500W+

Mivis
What about the silicon lottery??? Is that the average or the minimum that I would get?

read my posts bro...some pages back

arestavo

AlpAne

AlpAne
Hi,

Got hold of a EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra to start some overclocking for better performance.

I'm quite new to the oc business and I have tried to read as much as possible in this forum about the power balance issue. My card has S/N starting with: 2012 and black lips, have updated the BIOS through Precision X1 and have BIOS version: 94.02.42.80.AD with Re-BAR enabled in BIOS slot 1 (Normal) and BIOS version: 94.02.42.80.27 with Re-BAR enabled in BIOS slot 2 (OC).

Could someone please write a simple tutorial how to best test if my card has power balancing issues and if it draws to much power from the PCIe slot?

Do I have the right BIOS versions, should I run the BIOS switch in Normal or OC mode? Should I do the overclocking with EVGA Precision X1 or MSI Afterburner and what oc settings should I use for either software? Should I use GPU-Z or HWMONITOR to monitor how much power my card draws from the different connections? How is the total power calculated? What benchmark or test software should I use to run the power load test, is Port Royal the only one that's good enough, is there any ok free alternatives since 3DMark Port Royal costs money.

Thanks in advance!

 
Anyone who can point me in the right direction, please!
 

Most people use GPU-Z to see the PCIE slot and PCIE plug power, while using something that really loads the GPU - like Time Spy Extreme, Doom Eternal (max settings, no vysync or gsync), or the like.

PCIE slot power shouldn't exceed 67W as read by GPU-Z. I'm tired of writing out why, so in short - GPU-Z only reads 12V and not 12V + 3V power. If you want a more in-depth explanation, flip back over the last 20 pages and it is bound to pop up.

Thanks a lot for your reply, I really appriciate it!
 
I understand how to use and read the values from GPU-Z. Can you please give me some advice if I need to use Precision X1 or After Burner for OC and what values I should use for the OC for this testing? I also need to know which BIOS version I should use for testing and if I should use it in Normal or OC mode on the siwtch on the card?
 
Thanks again in advance!

AlpAne

Tiiii86

DeHAWK

Tiiii86

DeHAWK
Hey bro, I'm living in Sweden too, I purchased my card from Inet. As far as I understand you didn't send your card to the reseller, but directly to EVGA Germany? 
My card too is also out off spec (3090 FTW3 Ultra rev. 0.1), can draw up to 80W+ on the PCIe slot, this on standard bios.  The 12V is also unbalanced on the 3 PCIe 12V inputs. Have just purchased a new MB with new CPU and RAM, don't wanna fry it... 
But my card acts strange, for several month the problem was 3rd 12V was to low compared to the the 2 others, but now from one day to another its OK, but now it's the #1 that has become to low.
Regards

Tjena!
Jag kontaktade Evga direkt på
Du måste registrera din produkt och ladda upp kvittot sen skickar du screenshots till dom och begär ett nytt kort med revision 1.0 och insisterar på att du vill ha det pga pcie porten drar 80+w.
Du står för frakten och ansvaret dit, jag skickade med ups day after delivery det kändes säkrare. Allt tog ca 1v dvs dit och ett splitterny tbx.

Mitt nya kort är bra nu pcie går ej över 65w men jag kommer upp i ca 480w nu plus minus och pcie #3 drar fortf för lite. Mitt förra kort kom upp i 500w men pcie drog 80+w

Går du igenom inet kommer du komma till evgas vanliga rma och du lär få en refubished kort med 0.1 revision förmodligen. är deras special rma just för dessa kort.

Hoppas jag förklarade så att du förstår, har du fler frågor hjälper jag gärna till.

Tjena!
Ok jag förstår. Men ser du, jag har använt denna OC bios och med sämre resultat än den normala bios. Den normala kan ibland komma upp i över 460W, men med OC under 450W.
Vad tycker du jag skal ta screenshot av - den normala eller OC.
Och vilka inställningar ska den stå på i Precion One?
Kan inte göra screenshot atm, då jag fortfarande fattas min CPU med vattenkylning, skulle komma onsdag eller torsdag den ny ram fredag om jag har tur, är därför på från min laptop. Tackar för din hjälp. 
Hur skickade du via UPS, jag har alltid bare använt PostNord när jag skulle skicka något... 
Skickar du kortet i original emballage eller?
Kan tyvärr inte skicka dig privat mail då jag inte är uppe i 10 posts än.

Tjena!

Spelar nog ingen roll vilken bios du fotar till dom, ta den värsta se till att pcie är hög så dom inte nekar dig. Du höjer volten och powerlimit till max sen kör du furmark och har gpuZ igång tryck på sensor i programet så ser du där resultaten. Du skapar konto på ups sen skriver du in som vanligt och lämnar in på nån butik nära dig som supportar ups paket. Jag tog dagen efter leverans eftersom det går snabbt och direkt utan mellanhänder.. jag var rädd att den skulle försvinna i posten det är ändå 25k du skickar. Postnord har också dagen efter leverans men jag litar inte på postnord faktiskt.

Jag skickade kortet i antistatisk påse och lindade in den med bubbelplast sen in i ett hård paket.

Jag heter samma på sweclockers om du vill skriva där.

Hej @Tiiii86, @DeHAWK och @zaikk,
 
Jag vill kolla med er innan jag mailar EVGA för mitt kort och PCIe power draw probeblemet, hoppas ni kan hjälpa mig lite på traven. Vad hade ni för värde i GPU-Z för PCIe power? Använde ni Precision X1 eller After Burner för OC och vilka värden hade ni det inställt på, något ni kan rekommendera? Vilken testmetod är bäst för att pressa max på PCIe, 3DMark (Port Royal eller Time Spy Extreme), Furmark eller något annat, några inställningar i dessa när man kör testet?
 
Jag har än så länge lyckats uppmäta 75.5W för PCIe i GPU-Z med Precision X1 inställd på 107% power och med 3DMark Port Royal, det borde ge min 83.5W på PCIe eftersom GPU-Z inte mäter 3.3V PCIe power, eller hur? Räcker det för att få en godkänd RMA via ?
 
Tack på förhand för eventuella svar och tips!

Hi bro
Som det ser ut nu vil jag behålla mitt kort, det ÄR rev. 0.1 och JA, det dra mer än 80W på PCIe, men det kör så jävla bra, det clocker utan problem 2.205GHz på GPUen, detta med +200 på GPU freq. och +100mV. Min memory freq. är +1500. Koret är uppgraderat med EVGA Hybrid Kit och min GPU blir max 51 grader C, 30 grader har den gått ned.
Har lyckats dra 505W på denna EVGA standard OC BIOS för detta kort. Använder bara PrecisionX. Kör dessutom egen FAN curve. Mitt MOBO är ASUS Crossfire VIII Dark Hero med en AMD 5950X CPU, PSU är EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2. Detta MOBO klarar utom problem 3 3090 kort, så jag bryr mig inte om dessa PCIe watt. Om kortet brinner, ja då kommer jag så klar att göra en RMA.
Mitt kort är rock stable med ovan använda inställningar.
Du måsta göra diverse tests med OC BIOS och se vad som gäller. Som du ser i detta forum så är det personer som har fåt sämre kort retur efter RMA, även om dom nu är inom PCIe spec.
Det är mycket möjligt att man kan dra över 500W, men det betyder inte at man får bättre score i benchmark.
Hoppas att jag har guided dig lite med min egen erfarenhet. 
Best regards
DeHAWK 

arestavo

AlpAne
Thanks a lot for your reply, I really appriciate it!
 
I understand how to use and read the values from GPU-Z. Can you please give me some advice if I need to use Precision X1 or After Burner for OC and what values I should use for the OC for this testing? I also need to know which BIOS version I should use for testing and if I should use it in Normal or OC mode on the siwtch on the card?
 
Thanks again in advance!

Use the card without an overclock and get the readings. Use the 500W or 450W VBIOS, dealers choice. If you have a new revision 1.0 card, it comes with the 500W VBIOS on the OC switch by default - don't forget to reboot if you flip the VBIOS switch. Otherwise, there's no difference other than fan speed between the OC and normal VBIOS switch on the 0.1 revision card.

If your readings are out of tolerance, go to the first page of this thread, second post, and read what EVGA's Jacob said about the special RMA program. If the PCIE slot power is out of tolerance, you may have to do a normal RMA if they don't want to use the special RMA program for it.

arestavo: RMA Program Cards are rev 1.0 PCB, they come with a 107% PT Normal VBIOS (450W) and a 119% PT OC (XOC 467W) VBIOS, this last can't pull more than that for many reasons we discussed before. The only VBIOS that works and goes (in my case) to 506W is the 94.02.42.80.27 and the card runs great on air, if in water the better.

All the Best, Sergio!