andressergio
**Update Final Tests**
 
Well guys, just finished testing the GPU on a miniITX board with a 9600K and PCIe Flex Cable, it does exactly the same thing than on my HEDT 7980XE main rig  :(
 
 

I'm sorry dude, guessing it's silicon lottery then, if it runs fine stock. 

ty_ger07

willm1224

vyoung1337
So with a RMA'ed 3090 ftw3 ultra that couldnt get above 460ish watts at 119%, I flashed to 94.02.42.80.27 and it was able to get to 500w, and pcie slot power <65w which is good and what i was hoping for.

I wonder why the OC bios that came with the RMA card that supposedly has the xoc500w bios on it(94.02.42.c0.02) is capped at like around 110% tdp.  changes from 110%-119% does not make a difference. 

Because they don’t want to ship a product that is drawing 170w from the first two 8 pins when spec is 150w. That’s how you’re getting the 500w draw. Not that 20 excess watts through an 8 pin pcie cables is dangerous they just want everything meeting spec when it’s shipped.

Why didn't they fix the uneven power draw problem? Do they need to create a revision 2.0 board?
Why is EVGA unable to create a card with working power balancing this generation?

@andressergio : Silicon lottery. You lost.

Thanks for your reply.
No i didn't lost...it's just sad to see this after a long waiting time and it's a card problem moreover after 2 days of pure tests i also found that it sometimes craps out at stock settings. I'm performing all tests in different rigs (3DMark, Unigine Engines, Heavy Games, etc) with new parts, 1500W TITANIUM PSU's just out from the box and more. This rev 1.0 also downclocks but it stays there, not nearly than rev 0.1. The stock cooler is extremely efficient and here it's winter very cold, so the card stays super cool. I also have a flir camera and monitored the card and it's not a temp issue but a power/load as far as i can see. As I mentioned before, it goes down to 1920 aprox while gaming at stock clocks with voltaje slider at 0 and PT set at maximum, if i put boost lock i can see 1980 Clocks, so it's dropping 60 on my Acer Predator X34 3440x1440 all Ultra Settings.
 
All the Best, Sergio.
 
 

zaikk

HWG90
Second 3090, RMA'd 2114 just popped. I'm so angry I can't see straight. No oc, just the oc bios for aggressive fan and power. I'm so mad. This card didn't even last two months.

Rev 0.1 or 1.0? My mate got a 2112 rev 1.0 been running perfectly fine for months now. I understand your frustation, this thing has been scaring me too lately.

its' frustrating yes, and for my understanding rma program is only rev 1.0 not 0.1

zaikk
I received my RMA rev 1.0 today. Haven't tried it yet since I literally just came home and its already laaaaaaaate in the night. Excited to check it out tomorrow morning though! EVGA was super fast as usual.
 
Came in a brand new, sealed box.

good luck bro!

How we know which bios is on the card?
The Bios on my 3090 FTW3 Ultra says 94.2.42.c0.5
So I have no idea if I can put this 3987_500W version
 
Can anyone help?

zaikk
I received my RMA rev 1.0 today. Haven't tried it yet since I literally just came home and its already laaaaaaaate in the night. Excited to check it out tomorrow morning though! EVGA was super fast as usual.
 
Came in a brand new, sealed box.

Mine came sealed in new box also just different pic as it's black lips not red lips

andressergio
**Update Final Tests**
 
Well guys, just finished testing the GPU on a miniITX board with a 9600K and PCIe Flex Cable, it does exactly the same thing than on my HEDT 7980XE main rig  :(
 
**added today 21-JULY-2021**
 
Card crashes also in Stock Clocks doing some benchmarks in all my 3 rigs :/
 

Remove the PCIe riser cable (PCIe Flex Cable), a lot of them will crash your card unless you pay for a good shielded one. 
Stop using Precision X1 for overclocking use MSI Afterburner. 
in my experience PX1 crashes software specifically games, Afterburner doesn't. 

andressergio

GlaucomaPredator

andressergio
**Update Final Tests**
 
Well guys, just finished testing the GPU on a miniITX board with a 9600K and PCIe Flex Cable, it does exactly the same thing than on my HEDT 7980XE main rig  :(
 
**added today 21-JULY-2021**
 
Card crashes also in Stock Clocks doing some benchmarks in all my 3 rigs :/
 

Remove the PCIe riser cable (PCIe Flex Cable), a lot of them will crash your card unless you pay for a good shielded one. 
Stop using Precision X1 for overclocking use MSI Afterburner. 
in my experience PX1 crashes software specifically games, Afterburner doesn't. 

Thanks bro, if you saw my posts i tested in 3 different rigs in only 1 i used the PCIe Flex, the others not and I always use MSI AF and PX1 also, nothing changes the card crashes all the time no matter the rig :/

Time to RMA

junior_zhou
Is that anyone can tell me which Vbios is the latest one for OC and Normal? I'm assuming OC is 94.02.42.80.27, but which normal one is the latest? 
 
Also, I'm having trouble updating the Vbios in an SLI system. Nvflash is the way to go? 

Yes is that one if you want to enjoy the 500W that as I demonstrated it's only for Power Balance as my clocks are normal and crashes many times, my red lips rev 0.1 went to +1350 +150 stable for ALL Benches and for Gaming +1250 +100, the only problem was those horrible drops on Core that many times i saw 1865 from 2100 over and over, at least this black lips rev 1.0 stays 50-60 under but they stay there. Read my previous post for all the info you need as i tested all. 

For SLI you flash it very easy as nvflash will ask you for each card, if you want me to tell you the exact commands let me know.
 
All the Best, Sergio!

junior_zhou
 
Thanks for your reply!
 
One more question, I noticed one of my 3090's VBIOS is 94.02.42.C0.02. After a brief search, this one looks like a fix for power delivery for me. And I did some tests, compared to the other card I have (at 94.02.42.80.27), this did have a more average power delivery(90 90 60 vs 90 120 30). However, this VBIOS shows as an unverified BIOS file on Techpowerup. Which one should I keep?
 

That VBios is on the OC Position right? Well look what happened to me, mine came at 107% PT, same as the non OC BIOS...So as recommended by the guys here flashed to 94.02.42.80.27 and I get 119% PT, then I tried to re-flash the original and still i see 119% PT, so again i tell you this card is so weird...
 
If you have a Black Lips rev 1.0 can you send me that VBios so i test it while i stil have the card? You can extract it with GPU-Z here:
 

 
Thanks!

So if I understand this correctly, the FTW3 ULTRA rev 1.0 board is just to fix not being able to hit 500W on the 500W XOC bios? 
I'm on 94.02.42.80.27 and I max out at ~450W board due to power limit cap despite setting power limit to 117%

junior_zhou
 
I'm assuming you are asking for the C0.02 VBIOS. How Can I send it to you? Look like I can't upload here. 

Yes, you can upload it to Google Drive, and other online services
 
Thank You!
 
 

crazybbnut
Hey guys,
 
I did a RMA on my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid back in December when it fried and caught fire playing Halo MCC.  I was trying to see if I would be able to RMA it for a rev. 1 so I did the Furmark benchmark.  After flashing the XOC bios, it was hitting 500w but mainly sitting at 495.  Is this normal for a non rev. 1 board and does it mean that it is fine?  I do not want this 3090 to become another fire hazard after it almost burned my house down before.

How did it die playing Halo MCC? I have the Regular red lipped 3090 FTW3 Rev0.1 from Nov 2020 and can only draw higher than 470W in niche cases. Niche means Quake III RTX, Furmark and MSI Kombustor. But in all my games it doesn't go much above 440W, PCI-E is limiting performance in all my games at 80W,  it spikes to 455-475 for fractions of a second. My concern is the 82W PCI-E power draw though as that might be a time bomb, and the card might not make it much past its warranty period. I already played Halo MCC for about 7hrs on it without issues. I am afraid to RMA it and even if they accepted, might send back a card with the PCI-E power draw issue again.

xgiovio
hello, i have evga 3090 ftw3 ultra  with the hybrid upgrade. I flashed the xc3 rebar version months ago.
 
The card is working good with 10500 mhz on the ram and 2100 mhz on the gpu. 
 
Any tip? How is the situation with evga about the power balancing?

I've left well enough alone with mine, as I am in a similar situation and it's working well. As to power balancing, EVGA_Jacob responded and answered questions about the special RMA program for that particular issue. Post #2 in this thread if you want to see some of his responses that I copied.

xgiovio
hello, i have evga 3090 ftw3 ultra  with the hybrid upgrade. I flashed the xc3 rebar version months ago.
 
The card is working good with 10500 mhz on the ram and 2100 mhz on the gpu. 
 
Any tip? How is the situation with evga about the power balancing?

The card i sent for RMA could game +1250 +100 easy and bench even more, BUT clocks where not steady which leads to lower average FPS than having a card with steady clocks. I used XC3 BIOS always and no problems, the new one (rev 1.0) downlocks but doesn't jump and not even close to the one i sent, sad that is broken. You have to decide what to do, if you have a strong motherboard and PSU i'm sure you won't have any problems unless you bench all the time to the limit, if you bench eventually and game don't think something will happen, but that's my opinion. 

Cheers, Sergio!