lucasfrance

phroze

zeejay
Here is GPU-Z on the 500w bios. Normal 1800mhz default boost clock.
 

 
 

That doesn't tell you much. You need to have the sensors tab open and pay attention to the board power while running a port royal or time spy benchmark.

I know but I just wanted to check the default boost clock regarding the SA102 250 -> 300 marking on the GPU chip.

Installing the old BIOS on the new program cards has been known to cause an extreme loss of performance and power consumption. Down to the 350 watt mark from what I have read.

zeejay

phroze

lucasfrance

phroze

zeejay
Here is GPU-Z on the 500w bios. Normal 1800mhz default boost clock.
 

That doesn't tell you much. You need to have the sensors tab open and pay attention to the board power while running a port royal or time spy benchmark.

I know but I just wanted to check the default boost clock regarding the SA102 250 -> 300 marking on the GPU chip.

Installing the old BIOS on the new program cards has been known to cause an extreme loss of performance and power consumption. Down to the 350 watt mark from what I have read.

I think that was the other way around, installing new bios on old cards has super low power limit. Installing old bios on new card seems to work fine, tested it myself and had a friend try with his revised card as well.

You're probably right about that. It is so many pages deep at this point lol. I am running the kingpin BIOS on the new card and that seems fine as well.

zeejay

phroze
 
You're probably right about that. It is so many pages deep at this point lol. I am running the kingpin BIOS on the new card and that seems fine as well.

Yeah I went back to kingpin 520 bios after testing the normal XOC from this thread. The slightly lower center fan speed doesn't really hurt my temps. I can get a solid 520w out of it and my PCIE never goes over 66.

That makes sense. Forgot about the KP card being a hybrid. I am waterblocked so never really thought about it. Only strange issue I have noticed and it might have nothing to do with the driver is that my 2nd monitor won't actually go to sleep. The backlight stays on. Seems it started happening at about the same time as I flashed the KP BIOS though. Will have to revert and see if it is the cause.

93f0rc3
So guys, 3090 FTW3 with Hybrid kit and KP 520W BIOS will deliver best power draw / overclock / performance?

I don't know how it'll handle your hybrid cooler as I am using it with a block but I have gotten my best performance with the KP 520w BIOS.

Replacement card finally came, in a sorry state. No foam or airbag in between the exterior cardboard box and internal GPU box. The internal box had a big dent. Luckily the GPU itself seems fine, the dent was on one of the corners where foam was thick. Vastly inferior packaging versus when I got the original retail packaging.
 
The GPU itself installed just fine. PCI-E slot now never draws over 65Watt. Overclocking was same as before, maybe even a little bit worse (I could do +135 core +750VRAM, now it would crash at that OC, only stable at +105 Core +700 VRAM)
 
Another thing the temps seems to be worse than before. With default 420Watt power limit and same room temp, the GPU itself is about 5C warmer at load. Not sure why.
 
This is a 2114 serial replacement. For people wondering whether they should send in their cards for 3090oc program. My experience is a big fat NO. DO NOT DO IT. Mine replacement was delayed by almost 2 weeks although they promised to have replacement stocks when they issued my RMA.
 
DO NOT DO THE 3090oc program

jaxkrabbit
The GPU itself installed just fine. PCI-E slot now never draws over 65Watt. Overclocking was same as before, maybe even a little bit worse (I could do +135 core +750VRAM, now it would crash at that OC, only stable at +105 Core +700 VRAM)

What are your actual clocks?  Core offset doesn't tell you what the actual clocks are.  On my first two cards I could do +200 offset but the card would still only run at 1950mhz.
 

jaxkrabbit
Another thing the temps seems to be worse than before. With default 420Watt power limit and same room temp, the GPU itself is about 5C warmer at load. Not sure why.

This whole post is a joke, right?  Are you getting higher board power draw?  What do you think happens when you run a card with higher power?
 
I really can't tell if you are trolling or not.

Anyone have a link for automatic installation of old rtx 3090 ultra bios?
Normal and oc would be welcome.
Because I can't manually go back to the old bios since I installed the vbios 500w RB.
The nvflash utility gives me this error when I want to flash: "nvflash.exe is not recognized as an internal or external command, an executable program or a command file."
Or is there another way to force the flashing of "old" bios manually, otherwise?
 
 

Spent the evening yesterday messing with replacement card. My old one was a 2014 with red lips, this one is a 2114 with black lips. Retail packaging brand new. PCIE power never goes over 65w, Pin 3 shows low usage compared to Pin 1-2, but I don't think its a big issue. I cannot get over 450w with it and it does come with the 500w bios installed on the OC switch so not sure why. that said it hits 450w and stays there, so it has absolutely no problem getting that high, just no higher. I would care more if I didn't get a card that overclocks so well, I am able to easily hit ~14600 PR on stock fan curve with +120/+1250 whereas my old card was tapped out at +90/+150 and drew serious power through the PCIE slot over 75w. Overall I am happy, as my card seems to be able to last a long time without any weird power issues and is a strong overclocker. The difference I would get with another 50w of draw might be pretty minimal from my testing and honestly, on air anything over 450w and I am over 80c which I don't want anyways. Definitely recommend the 3090OC program for people planning to keep their card a long time with the power issue. 
 
BTW, I have no clue if I have a 250 or 300 variant as I am not about to pull the cooler off just out of curiosity, is there another way to figure this out or no?

93f0rc3
So guys, 3090 FTW3 with Hybrid kit and KP 520W BIOS will deliver best power draw / overclock / performance?

Tried just this A.M. with the 520w rebar one.  Have a original red lip.  Made mine run a little hotter and could not oc as high.  With oc 500w rebar hybrid bios 94.02.42.C0.11 could reach 190/1000 64-65c 440w draw. 520w 125/700 72c 465w draw.  Both 79-81w slot draw. Both would get me about the same pr score 14,450-14,490.  520w seem to hold a more consistent 2100mhz.  Went back to c0.11 bios.  

GlaucomaPredator

joshjd93
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BTW, I have no clue if I have a 250 or 300 variant as I am not about to pull the cooler off just out of curiosity, is there another way to figure this out or no?

My 2114 also has similar power draw from PCIe and Pin 3. Which leads me to believe that it is artificially limited. 
I would also like to know how to check for the 250 and 300 variant, also what are the differences between them, performance wise?

They're the same since the 250 variant was re-enabled to be a full 300 variant by Nvidia. The only way that you can tell the difference is to remove the cooler and see if Nvidia re-etched the GPU die.
 
Silicon lottery still applies for overclocks.

@EVGA_JacobF any news on when the hybrid will join the program. Mine can barely draw 420w on the 500w bios. And power draw on PCI-E is over 80w

koroem
So I've been holding off on submitting a request to the replacement program to see how it would turn out. I'm leaning more toward going in on it, but the other issue is that I water blocked my card and need to reinstall the air cooler. I saved the stock pads and they came off in good order. I'm assuming they are still fine in storage but won't know till I look. That said for the life of me I can't remember which parts had putty on them, and which ones had pads. Firstly does anyone have a reassembly guide anywhere? Also are there any recommendations for replacement pads and putty for these cards?

The putty is on the inductors. I got it here https://www.amazon.com/gp...itle?ie=UTF8&psc=1

connor193
I just received my 3090OC RMA card. 
I got sent a used 3090 with red lips that doesn't have the 500w bios, or the revised voltage controller.
 
I paid $70 to ship my card back and this is what I get?

Have you tested it yet?  If it does the same thing reach out and negotiate that they cover shipping both directions on another swap.  If it doesn't do the same thing after applying the XOC bios, what's the problem?

connor193

lobstar

connor193
I just received my 3090OC RMA card. 
I got sent a used 3090 with red lips that doesn't have the 500w bios, or the revised voltage controller.
 
I paid $70 to ship my card back and this is what I get?

Have you tested it yet?  If it does the same thing reach out and negotiate that they cover shipping both directions on another swap.  If it doesn't do the same thing after applying the XOC bios, what's the problem?

Yes, I did test it. 
~430W max load on the 500W XOC bios as well as 85W on the PCIE slot.
I have contacted EVGA and am awaiting their reply but you have to agree it is frustrating, especially since we had to go through a specific "3090OC" channel and I still receive the wrong card.

Totally agree. It wasn't my experience but hold them accountable. They seem to be pretty good about recognizing issues. Personally, I wanted to get in on the first run to avoid just this scenario. I figured the first out the door would be held to the standard before it loosened up.

saygin123
hey everyone i see some 3090 ftw3 ultra owners using kinpin 520w bios. doesnt it void the warranty? can i use it? 

I’m piggy backing on this question

For those who have tried it......
What’s the bios version on the KP 520w?
Does it support resizeable BAR?