MiztahSparklez
finally got back up this score with a somewhat stable clock/memory ratio.  not terrible, but not the fastest either. pulls just under 450w at a 112 power target
 
 

MiztahSparklez

Lord Winchester

MiztahSparklez
finally got back up this score with a somewhat stable clock/memory ratio.  not terrible, but not the fastest either. pulls just under 450w at a 112 power target

But why are you not cranking the power target um to 119%?

If you hit 450 with 112% you "should" get about 480w on max power

because it crashes with the higher power target and produces more heat to trigger the fans. lol.  I think it just runs out of steam since the hard limit is around 450-460 for me.  having more power doesn't make it any better, unless i figure out how to push the clocks higher without it crashing in game.

arestavo

Dabadger84

arestavo

Dabadger84
You should not (and will not be allowed to) RMA your card for it drawing 78W, there's a BIOS update coming for the BAR beeswax that might also help with power balancing issues - I spoke with Support about this, they will not authorize an RMA just for the card either not hitting 500W draw because the BIOS is still in BETA and/or it drawing slightly over spec on the PCIe slot.
That's an official response from an eVGA rep, so take it how you will.  The card isn't going to spontaenously combust from drawing 3W over the single slot spec - maybe if you run it like that 24/7 for a few years straight, but even then, I don't think it's THAT big of an issue.  It's something they SHOULD fix, because the Kingpin I have doesn't draw anywhere near even 75W so far from the slot and that's with me seeing as high as 535W draw on the 520W BIOS.
And again, how many cards have been through LN2 OCing and still work, despite drawing 600-700-800+W (albeit for short periods for benchmarks, but still, point is what it is).  If you're continually seeing something higher like 90W, that's a different story because that plainly should not be happening on an un-modded 3090 that isn't a Kingpin on the 1000W BIOS. 
 
My 3090 FTW3 Hybrid is up on for sale now, hopefully it goes to someone with a brain - already had two messages asking questions about it when the answers for said questions were IN the description (Why are you selling it - because of I got a Kingpin, what temps did you get - also in the description lol).  Some people just can't be helped.

That is a blatant lie. If the card is out of spec without an overclock and on the stock VBIOS it is a valid reason for RMA. The spec is 75W for PCIE devices. Many high end 3090s appear to only draw around 66W without overclock at similar stock wattage levels, or higher (480W).
 
I RMA'd my first card for it being of spec as proof of your lie. If others want cards that fall within spec, they have the right to - regardless of what you think they can or cannot do.

??????? Dude I'm not lying, I can literally show you a screenshot of the eVGA reply stating you cannot RMA it for that:
 

 
So it's not a "blatant lie" thank you very much mister malding.  I'll email them again with that specifically being the only question I ask & post back, but you need to quit getting all offensive over people posting informed, actual answers.  Thanks.

Read your first sentence.

Now read my second sentence.

Now put your card back to stock VBIOS, test, and RMA your card for being out of spec. Or don't. Just don't spread disinformation by telling folks that they:

Dabadger84
You should not (and will not be allowed to) RMA your card for it drawing 78W

Because that isn't true. The spec is 75W max for a stock card, and it is valid reason for RMA - the reason that I myself RMAd my first 3090 FT3 Ultra for.

arestavo

god503
The "SPEC" alows for a voltage variance of 10%.  78 watts is not out of spec.  Just because the other person at the end of the phone is not a tech and just a customer support representative following a flow chart while they talk to you, doesn't make it a valid RMA...  IMO

And when the voltage is bang on 12V, it is out of spec above 75W and a valid reason for RMA. You can think otherwise, but it doesn't change reality.

Again, and ad nauseum, it's why I (and others) RMAd their card to get one that was within spec at stock. The replacement wasn't really, but it was close enough that I said to heck with it (76W cont. - first one was 83W cont.).

Other manufacturers don't seem to have an issue keeping PCIE slot power draw around 66W with up to 480W cards - why does EVGA struggle to on so many, yet obviously not all, 450W cards? And why do people feel the need to defend out of spec cards? It's one thing to accept something that is out of tolerance for your own use - it's quite another to try and force your view on others when it will likely also solve their severe power limit issue.

For what little, or much, it's worth - I'm an EVGA fan. However, when there's a problem it should be addressed so that it can be fixed so that consumers won't have to see a problem repeated again.

arestavo

god503

arestavo

god503
The "SPEC" alows for a voltage variance of 10%.  78 watts is not out of spec.  Just because the other person at the end of the phone is not a tech and just a customer support representative following a flow chart while they talk to you, doesn't make it a valid RMA...  IMO

And when the voltage is bang on 12V, it is out of spec above 75W and a valid reason for RMA. You can think otherwise, but it doesn't change reality.

Again, and ad nauseum, it's why I (and others) RMAd their card to get one that was within spec at stock. The replacement wasn't really, but it was close enough that I said to heck with it (76W cont. - first one was 83W cont.).

Other manufacturers don't seem to have an issue keeping PCIE slot power draw around 66W with up to 480W cards - why does EVGA struggle to on so many, yet obviously not all, 450W cards? And why do people feel the need to defend out of spec cards? It's one thing to accept something that is out of tolerance for your own use - it's quite another to try and force your view on others when it will likely also solve their severe power limit issue.

For what little, or much, it's worth - I'm an EVGA fan. However, when there's a problem it should be addressed so that it can be fixed so that consumers won't have to see a problem repeated again.

You realize that if I use your logic, the 66 watt card that u are glorifying is "technically" out of spec by your definition.... ;)

Incorrect. 66W does not exceed 75W max, unless you use some very strange math.

lobstar
So this kid really thinks the card is only in spec if it's exactly 75w. Sometimes freedom of speech really sucks. We need a license system to for getting on the internet.

god503
For a lot of things now a days, unfortunately

lobstar

god503
For a lot of things now a days, unfortunately

I should have been more specific; I was talking about you LOLOLOLOL

lobstar

god503

lobstar

god503
For a lot of things now a days, unfortunately

I should have been more specific; I was talking about you LOLOLOLOL

Then your reading skills need work my friend.... kids...

A kid named 'god' doesn't understand how something can be 'upto and including'. I do think you need a time out to go do some learning.

lobstar

god503
I haven't been a "kid" in a long time junior... so unless u can show me an engineering degree, it's bed time...

And now the little child thinks you need an engineering degree to understand simple math and numbers.  
You know we're all here to learn and discuss ... except you from the looks of it.  You just seem to feel like you know more with your little name and your weak understanding of power delivery.
Seriously, if you are as old as you say you are you certainly haven't developed the mindset to have adult discussion the way you throw your weak ass knowledge around. I've probably been registered here longer than you've been alive rofl.

god503

arestavo

god503
The "SPEC" alows for a voltage variance of 10%.  78 watts is not out of spec.  Just because the other person at the end of the phone is not a tech and just a customer support representative following a flow chart while they talk to you, doesn't make it a valid RMA...  IMO

And when the voltage is bang on 12V, it is out of spec above 75W and a valid reason for RMA. You can think otherwise, but it doesn't change reality.

Again, and ad nauseum, it's why I (and others) RMAd their card to get one that was within spec at stock. The replacement wasn't really, but it was close enough that I said to heck with it (76W cont. - first one was 83W cont.).

Other manufacturers don't seem to have an issue keeping PCIE slot power draw around 66W with up to 480W cards - why does EVGA struggle to on so many, yet obviously not all, 450W cards? And why do people feel the need to defend out of spec cards? It's one thing to accept something that is out of tolerance for your own use - it's quite another to try and force your view on others when it will likely also solve their severe power limit issue.

For what little, or much, it's worth - I'm an EVGA fan. However, when there's a problem it should be addressed so that it can be fixed so that consumers won't have to see a problem repeated again.

You realize that if I use your logic, the 66 watt card that u are glorifying is "technically" out of spec by your definition.... ;)

lobstar
Go play with this calculator. https://ohmslawcalculator.com/ohms-law-calculator

Put in 75w and 1v. Now put in 1.1v and 75w and please delete your account when you realize how much of a moron your are :)

lobstar
you can put any voltage in you like to represent a rise of 10% in voltage and how the power can still stay at 75w because THERE ARE OTHER GOD DAMNED VARIABLES YOU ABSOLUTE TWAT.  But keep throwing around jargon like you know anything.

jacoffey85
it starts with 12volts and steps it down to whatever it needs.