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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/13 16:08:06 (permalink)
But like when I get this card you know.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/13 16:10:29 (permalink)
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Was looking at products to boost power to pci-e slot. Found this https://www.evga.com/articles/00600/
 
Evga Power Booster uses a molex to pci-e. Not sure if it would help if you have many pci-e devices plugged in.
I think this may help with the red light error since the mcu check needs 12v and deviating lower will cause a no post.



Don't think they're still available.. And you shouldn't have to purchase additional hardware to stop a suspected design fault from causing system issues.
I'm kinda lucky that my Apex has an inbuilt molex connector for the PCI-E..

I put in a support ticket seeing if they're at least aware of why some cards refuse to get anywhere near the 450w limit.
Hopefully it's something they can fix with a firmware update.. 
Worst case I'll pull the waterblock off it and send it back.. 

Still salty they FTW cards are so cut back this generation.. The component selection makes them feel more like a binned XC3.. Just seems they went with the absolute bare minimum (VRM asside)
I would have paid more if they had a premium product.. The FTW3 was supposed to be that, and there is no 3080 KP..
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/14 02:19:17 (permalink)
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Afterburner..
Tried X1 but the overlay doesn't work half the time and setting a voltage frequency curve is clunkier than it should be.
Overlay is the main reason though, and I love RTSS frame limiter, gives dead consistent frametimes if setup right.

True. Tried switching to X1 for the third time now and every time I'm missing something from AB. AB simply rules in every segment.
I've been using it for years and years, so no wonder.
What bothers me though is missing control of all three fans on my FTW3 Ultra. And there is no separate app for RGB control, so I need to have X1 installed no matter.
Also there is the placebo effect that the overclocks are more stable with X1. But that's just me. XD
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/14 14:54:52 (permalink)
Liquid metal on die and alphacool waterblock I'm stable in port royal 2190mhz and +1125 on memory... Maxing out at 36°c.... Games max stable clocks are 2145 to 2160.... Highest temp on this card after 2 hrs in game is about 41°c.... I need more power.... My best score in port royal 13061
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/14 18:38:30 (permalink)
So,

I went down the rabbit hole regarding the RLOD issue.

While I am fortunate to have a 3080 FTW3, I did spend $850 and three freezing trips to MC to get it. I do not want it bricking.

I updated the bios when I installed Precision. As it is, my fans dont start spinning until 65C despite a custom fan curve when Precision is running. It likes to close without my knowing sometimes, In which case my fans don't start spinning until 90C.

Other info, seems my 3x8 pins all draw pretty evenly, and have only seen 45w max from pcie thus far.

So, should I flash back to the original bios? How can I tell which bios I have? GPUZ shows a different nunbering scheme. Also, tips for not bricking this thing would help. Thank you!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/14 20:38:06 (permalink)
There is a way to shunt pcie and run a wire to bypass the fuse. It seems this is the only way to get rid of the issue. I am considering power modding to get more power
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/15 06:40:18 (permalink)
Small question, do I understand this correctly that I can flash XOC beta on my OC bios switch, and still keep the stock on the normal one? So basically I can have both stock and XOC swappable by a switch right? Is there any significant problems associated because of having tried the XOC?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/15 07:16:11 (permalink)
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Small question, do I understand this correctly that I can flash XOC beta on my OC bios switch, and still keep the stock on the normal one? So basically I can have both stock and XOC swappable by a switch right? Is there any significant problems associated because of having tried the XOC?

Yes that's totally fine. Basically u only need one bios. It's good if u want to flash another but evga didn't even give us a true xoc bios. It's 450w.... The 3090 guys can at least flash kingpin and get 1000w..... 450 max stable is 2190. I've hit 2120 and 2205 but for some reason it won't use the whole 450 watts. As soon as pcie is at 75watts it limits the whole card. Evga really limited their cards
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/15 07:18:07 (permalink)
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MarlowX1m
Was looking at products to boost power to pci-e slot. Found this https://www.evga.com/articles/00600/
 
Evga Power Booster uses a molex to pci-e. Not sure if it would help if you have many pci-e devices plugged in.
I think this may help with the red light error since the mcu check needs 12v and deviating lower will cause a no post.



Don't think they're still available.. And you shouldn't have to purchase additional hardware to stop a suspected design fault from causing system issues.
I'm kinda lucky that my Apex has an inbuilt molex connector for the PCI-E..

I put in a support ticket seeing if they're at least aware of why some cards refuse to get anywhere near the 450w limit.
Hopefully it's something they can fix with a firmware update.. 
Worst case I'll pull the waterblock off it and send it back.. 

Still salty they FTW cards are so cut back this generation.. The component selection makes them feel more like a binned XC3.. Just seems they went with the absolute bare minimum (VRM asside)
I would have paid more if they had a premium product.. The FTW3 was supposed to be that, and there is no 3080 KP..


I really wouldn't mind another 150w.... This bios kinda sucks
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/15 14:57:45 (permalink)
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So,

I went down the rabbit hole regarding the RLOD issue.

While I am fortunate to have a 3080 FTW3, I did spend $850 and three freezing trips to MC to get it. I do not want it bricking.

I updated the bios when I installed Precision. As it is, my fans dont start spinning until 65C despite a custom fan curve when Precision is running. It likes to close without my knowing sometimes, In which case my fans don't start spinning until 90C.

Other info, seems my 3x8 pins all draw pretty evenly, and have only seen 45w max from pcie thus far.

So, should I flash back to the original bios? How can I tell which bios I have? GPUZ shows a different nunbering scheme. Also, tips for not bricking this thing would help. Thank you!



Are you referring to when you launched Precision x, it asked you to update? If yes, you didn't update the BIOS, that's just a MCU controller firmware update (rgb, fans etc). For a bios update, you must do it manually launching the many files they have posted in this forums...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/16 05:15:31 (permalink)
Anyone tried EKWB block on 3080 FTW3 Ultra, how the block performs with 1x360 mm and 2 x360 mm radiator loops (CPU included).
is there a watercooling thread about GPU blocks on EVGA?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/16 05:32:24 (permalink)
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Anyone tried EKWB block on 3080 FTW3 Ultra, how the block performs with 1x360 mm and 2 x360 mm radiator loops (CPU included).
is there a watercooling thread about GPU blocks on EVGA?

I have the alphacool, with a 10900k in the loop at 5.3ghz.... 2 360 rads... I'm usually below 38c on my gpu after 2 hrs gaming.... I overclocked the card 2160 to 2145 and +1125 memory.... Ek block should net the same results.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/16 09:27:14 (permalink)
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donnie123
Small question, do I understand this correctly that I can flash XOC beta on my OC bios switch, and still keep the stock on the normal one? So basically I can have both stock and XOC swappable by a switch right? Is there any significant problems associated because of having tried the XOC?

Yes that's totally fine. Basically u only need one bios. It's good if u want to flash another but evga didn't even give us a true xoc bios. It's 450w.... The 3090 guys can at least flash kingpin and get 1000w..... 450 max stable is 2190. I've hit 2120 and 2205 but for some reason it won't use the whole 450 watts. As soon as pcie is at 75watts it limits the whole card. Evga really limited their cards



Max I seen on my PCIE slot is 50w. IS that normal? I am not sure why it doesn't go higher.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/16 16:58:47 (permalink)
It's by design for it to do that. Mine does the same it will hit 50 and it will power cap card. I'm thinking if u shunt pcie slot u can get about 25 30 more watts..... Idk if anyone here has done that.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 17:04:16 (permalink)
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I have the alphacool, with a 10900k in the loop at 5.3ghz.... 2 360 rads... I'm usually below 38c on my gpu after 2 hrs gaming.... I overclocked the card 2160 to 2145 and +1125 memory.... Ek block should net the same results.



what are your temps (delta K to water) for the memory and power? I am considering the alphacool due to better availability, but when I am not gaming I am mining ether, which is hard on memory usage.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 17:48:25 (permalink)
I've got a 9900KF @ 5.1/5.0 AVX (Wanted lower voltage 1.245v), 3080 FTW3 1100mv 2115-2100mhz + 800 Mem.
1XPE360 and 1X SE360 (Wish it was another PE) with Arctic P12's in push mostly maxing out around 1350RPM to keep the noise down in a Phantex Evolve x case.

Water temp is typically 38-40C after a few hours of gaming. I couldn't tell you the room temperature, but its summer here in AUS, so i'd guess 25-28c at night?

Delta to water temp with Kyronaut is roughly 8-12c, but it depends on the wattage at the time.. Highest i've seen it is 52c core temp with a water temp of 40c on the MSI bios.

Currently considering Liquid metal to try and bring them closer together.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 05:53:33 (permalink)
For some reason the XOC bios doesn't even work for me. I switched to OC bios and installed it the way it says on the main page here, I checked GPU-Z, set power limit to max in MSI or X1 and run Unigine Heaven, the power is just stuck at 330 or so no matter what I do. Using Corsair HX1000i with 3 separate cables (not daisy chain)
 
Any idea what could be causing this? I hope the card isn't broken because it has 0 coil whine even at very high FPS.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 05:59:23 (permalink)
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I have the alphacool, with a 10900k in the loop at 5.3ghz.... 2 360 rads... I'm usually below 38c on my gpu after 2 hrs gaming.... I overclocked the card 2160 to 2145 and +1125 memory.... Ek block should net the same results.



what are your temps (delta K to water) for the memory and power? I am considering the alphacool due to better availability, but when I am not gaming I am mining ether, which is hard on memory usage.

Room temp is about 68 to 70c....
My water temps last night were around 32c, my max temp on my card core was 38. Memory hovered in 44 to 48..... Power is around 50..... Gpu2 temp is around 48.... I was going to buy ekwb. But I've not been happy with them lately. Alphacool I bought because it was available and cheap. But to be honest it's a damn good block. I'd be surprised if ek was any better.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 06:10:56 (permalink)
Thanks rahimdamji29 and Drwaffles for the temps!
 
The price of the alphacool block is pretty compelling, and I even like the look. It does not look cheap compared to other blocks (at least on the photos) and in German shops they claim to be available again this week. I hope that date is not just a placeholder that will be pushed back.
 
The ek block is not in stock in Germany until April afaik, and watercool.de is planning a ftw3 3080 block, but their release date is "when it's done". Also, it's a SEO nightmare to find something about them with their name "watercool", and I think they closed their forums.

 
So I am very tempted to just get the alphacool and be done with it...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 07:29:53 (permalink)
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Thanks rahimdamji29 and Drwaffles for the temps!
 
The price of the alphacool block is pretty compelling, and I even like the look. It does not look cheap compared to other blocks (at least on the photos) and in German shops they claim to be available again this week. I hope that date is not just a placeholder that will be pushed back.
 
The ek block is not in stock in Germany until April afaik, and watercool.de is planning a ftw3 3080 block, but their release date is "when it's done". Also, it's a SEO nightmare to find something about them with their name "watercool", and I think they closed their forums.

 
So I am very tempted to just get the alphacool and be done with it...

Just get the alphacool. It's prob one of the best quality blocks I've seen. It really impressed me. Also the thermal pads are cut to size for you and simple to install. The hardest part was cleaning all the crud off the stock cooler
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 07:33:03 (permalink)
What are the chances evga will give us an official 550 watt bios? This 450 is such a tease. I can go so much higher on water..... My port royal scores are 13100.... Timespy extreme is 18,900..... I can pretty much see this card beating 3090 with more power
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 08:36:06 (permalink)
Men, your asking for a 550 watt bios, while some of us can't even reach 450w.. let them first try fix this I am barely hitting 420, and throttling all in:(
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 21:00:32 (permalink)
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Men, your asking for a 550 watt bios, while some of us can't even reach 450w.. let them first try fix this I am barely hitting 420, and throttling all in:(

Watercool.... Or crank fans to 100%.... Air I was max 2085mhz in games water I'm at 2145 max in games....... Overall maybe 5 to 10 fps improvement... Honestly anything over 2055 is a waste....
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/20 11:32:11 (permalink)
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Men, your asking for a 550 watt bios, while some of us can't even reach 450w.. let them first try fix this I am barely hitting 420, and throttling all in:(

Watercool.... Or crank fans to 100%.... Air I was max 2085mhz in games water I'm at 2145 max in games....... Overall maybe 5 to 10 fps improvement... Honestly anything over 2055 is a waste....



I hit power limit at 360w, with xoc 450w bios with a temp of 16c, I honestly thought once my card was water cooled that the power limit issues would be alot less of an issue, I'm going to have to shunt mod this damn thing.
post edited by AudiPete - 2021/02/20 11:35:50
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/20 15:47:52 (permalink)
Try the MSI bios I suggested a few pages ago :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/20 16:26:07 (permalink)
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Try the MSI bios I suggested a few pages ago :)

Why use a bios that won't have as high a power limit? The whole point is more power
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/20 16:42:24 (permalink)
Because it under reports how much you're actually using, allowing more wattage than the 450 bios before it starts throttling..
post edited by Drwaffles - 2021/02/20 16:45:57
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/20 16:52:42 (permalink)
Lol 🤣 I'm not throttling. I'm maxing out at 36c if I put my pump and 100%.... I'm getting max clock of 2190 in port royal. Time spy stays around 2145 to 2175.... I'm hitting max 447 watts... I haven't seen it go past there. Which bios are u referring to and what's the power limit? I'll check it out
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/20 16:56:00 (permalink)
Not thermal throttling, power throttling -_-

If you're already hitting 447w and the voltage is staying at near max then it may not be much different.
This is more for those of us who can't get past 420ish watts without the card pulling core voltage pack and power limiting.

Go back like 3ish pages and look.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/20 17:02:40 (permalink)
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Not thermal throttling, power throttling -_-

If you're already hitting 447w and the voltage is staying at near max then it may not be much different.
This is more for those of us who can't get past 420ish watts without the card pulling core voltage pack and power limiting.

Go back like 3ish pages and look.

I don't see anything About a bios. I kinda have a baby in one hand just give me a link to the bios and I'll report back as soon as I put my daughter to bed in 10 mins
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