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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 09:46:06 (permalink)
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In terms of visual damage, does anyone know what to look for on the board? I have some good pictures of my card before sending it back to EVGA. I was unable to see anything obviously wrong even after the pretty loud POP it did.


post the pictures.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 09:55:40 (permalink)
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In terms of visual damage, does anyone know what to look for on the board? I have some good pictures of my card before sending it back to EVGA. I was unable to see anything obviously wrong even after the pretty loud POP it did.




It was most likely the 10A fuse for the PCIe slot that made the pop sound and the card itself is likely fine. My understanding is that you could even jumper that fuse and the card would start operating again (though I cant say if that would then cause damage by allowing it to draw too much power)
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 09:58:29 (permalink)
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In terms of visual damage, does anyone know what to look for on the board? I have some good pictures of my card before sending it back to EVGA. I was unable to see anything obviously wrong even after the pretty loud POP it did.


post the pictures.


 
Here,

EVGA_FTW3 - Google Drive
 
{EDIT}
 
I assume the 10 amp is the one at the back without a clear picture.
post edited by Perpixel - 2021/07/27 10:02:53
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 10:58:08 (permalink)
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The fan bug is definitely unrelated to the card deaths, this is just a side effect of having a busy i2c bus that the stupid RGB controller is riding causing interrupt blockers.



^ This!  The fans might be glitchy but isn't going to cause the cards to blow.
 
The problem has been the same from day 1 - EVGA put fuses on these cards, and Ampere has a lot of transient power spikes to deal with.  A quick spike that won't damage the card otherwise now ends up blowing the fuse out.  Bad power balancing on the different power rails makes this problem even worse.  ALL early 3090 FTW3s were ticking time bombs, you just needed the right catalyst to blow the fuse out.  I don't know if the rev 1.0 PCB 3090 FTW3s are better but hopefully EVGA did address some of the problem with their PCB design - its not a totally new PCB though so many of the original weaknesses of the FTW3 PCB remains, since power balance is still an issue, just not as bad.
 
3090s are most susceptible because of their high power draw and TDP, but that's not to say it can't happen in rarer circumstances on 3080s.  EVGA should have removed or uprated the fuses - no other Ampere cards have them.




This is wrong.
MSI and Gigabyte cards both have fuses.
Asus does NOT.  And as far as everyone can tell, neither does Founder's (Nvidia), Palit, Gainward, Colorful, Galax or Zotac.
 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 11:00:22 (permalink)
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In terms of visual damage, does anyone know what to look for on the board? I have some good pictures of my card before sending it back to EVGA. I was unable to see anything obviously wrong even after the pretty loud POP it did.


post the pictures.


 
Here,

EVGA_FTW3 - Google Drive
 
{EDIT}
 
I assume the 10 amp is the one at the back without a clear picture.


yes I believe its the one on the back close to the PCIe slot.
 
if you had a multimeter, you could have checked the fuses for continuity, but it sounds like you already sent this back to EVGA.
 
I don't see any obvious signs of components being damaged. but they could certainly pop internally without visible damage. also possible that the pop you heard was from another component in the PC (like the PSU) as OCP was tripped.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 11:03:32 (permalink)
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yes I believe its the one on the back close to the PCIe slot.
 
if you had a multimeter, you could have checked the fuses for continuity, but it sounds like you already sent this back to EVGA.
 
I don't see any obvious signs of components being damaged. but they could certainly pop internally without visible damage. also possible that the pop you heard was from another component in the PC (like the PSU) as OCP was tripped.




This is a GREAT idea.  Multimeters are not rare, so anyone with a card that 'popped' like this and has a red LED light of death should use a multimeter to check for continuity on the edges of the fuse and compare that to the other fuses.  No continuity means the fuse is gone.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 11:03:51 (permalink)
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yes I believe its the one on the back close to the PCIe slot.
 
if you had a multimeter, you could have checked the fuses for continuity, but it sounds like you already sent this back to EVGA.
 
I don't see any obvious signs of components being damaged. but they could certainly pop internally without visible damage. also possible that the pop you heard was from another component in the PC (like the PSU) as OCP was tripped.




Its hard to see under the backplate... i think mine shows a label of F6501? If thats the fuse I can check it for continuity!
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 11:05:39 (permalink)
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yes I believe its the one on the back close to the PCIe slot.
 
if you had a multimeter, you could have checked the fuses for continuity, but it sounds like you already sent this back to EVGA.
 
I don't see any obvious signs of components being damaged. but they could certainly pop internally without visible damage. also possible that the pop you heard was from another component in the PC (like the PSU) as OCP was tripped.




Its hard to see under the backplate... i think mine shows a label of F6501? If thats the fuse I can check it for continuity!




Yes that's one of the fuses!
One says F6502, one says F6503, then F6501 on the front side.  No idea about the PCIE Slot fuse (the only one) on the back side of the card though.
 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 11:09:55 (permalink)
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In terms of visual damage, does anyone know what to look for on the board? I have some good pictures of my card before sending it back to EVGA. I was unable to see anything obviously wrong even after the pretty loud POP it did.


post the pictures.


 
Here,

EVGA_FTW3 - Google Drive
 
{EDIT}
 
I assume the 10 amp is the one at the back without a clear picture.




 
just a head's up those photos contain GPS coordinates
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 11:23:05 (permalink)
https://www.igorslab.de/en/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3090-and-not-only-new-world-when-the-graphics-card-goes-amok-because-of-design-failures/
 
As per igorslab seems it is a faulty fan controller, I hope tjis can be fixed with a firmware update. Any meaningful update from evga so far?


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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 11:28:26 (permalink)
Hello, excuse me, you are not bringing up the question since you are only talking about FTW. Also, I read 2/3 of the post but my English is limited. When is RTX 3080 XC3 series? I didn't see any info on it. Considering your findings, is this graphics card at risk? (it only has 2 8 pin ports). Thank you
 
If my card breaks, will it be refunded? we are only talking about the replacement 3090, but my overclocked 3080 XC3 card is not even 1 year old
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 11:35:14 (permalink)
Hello, i´m about to receive my evga rtx 3080 ti ftw3, is there any reports of the TI having the same problem as the 3090?
 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 11:57:20 (permalink)
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https://www.igorslab.de/en/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3090-and-not-only-new-world-when-the-graphics-card-goes-amok-because-of-design-failures/
 
As per igorslab seems it is a faulty fan controller, I hope tjis can be fixed with a firmware update. Any meaningful update from evga so far?




Just like the POSCAP thing mattered.  
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 12:10:30 (permalink)
A DC motor direct drive fan rated at 3600 RPM 12vDC  I believe is what I did read here as spec.
The motor can not over spin and draw more current then it is rated for in this application.
If it is calling for full speed 100%, even if it could call for more, it can not spin higher unless you give it more than 12vDC
Where is the extra voltage going to come from in a 12v system? 
If it was told somehow to run at 400%, it can't. The controller is not going to send more current to the motor to run faster not how a motor works.
A motor draws more current when the load increases. These motors/fans are sized for the application.
The fan when put up to a radiator or heatsink with fins will block some air flow, this will lower the CFM and that will lower the current draw, it id doing less work by moving less air.
Two ways to make the fan spin faster, more voltage or with pullies and change the drive ratio.
It is a direct drive motor/fan setup, no pullies and there is no more than 12vDC the motor is rated for.
 
I do not know why it reads 200,000RPM but I can assure you is is not.
A fanblade rated for 3600RPM would fly apart at 200,000rpm. Especially these cheap plastic fanblades.
If somehow the regulator made more than 12v, say 15v to send to the fan to speed it up I would think it would kill other components like the GPU chip itself. And much more than 12v will burn up a coil in the windings of the 12vDC motor. 
Are motors burning up? Do the motors themselves still work after all this?
They can pop but the smell is really bad, you will know it if a winding burns and grounds
That could blow a fuse for sure.
So my question is are the fan motors still good or did they burn and short out.
A motor can burn fast, open the winding and not ground or short out too.
 
I am not an electrical engineer but I did do HVAC-R, BLDG maintenance for decades.
Also worked in an electric motor/generator/pump repair shop for a few years.
I did get to work on all kinds of A/C and D/C motors of all sizes from fractional HP to over 1500HP
and the controls/PLCs that run them.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 12:20:27 (permalink)
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https://www.igorslab.de/en/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3090-and-not-only-new-world-when-the-graphics-card-goes-amok-because-of-design-failures/
 
As per igorslab seems it is a faulty fan controller, I hope tjis can be fixed with a firmware update. Any meaningful update from evga so far?


Nah this is a wack theory.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 12:21:05 (permalink)
I have the FTW3 Rev 0.1 (Red lipped card, that occationally hit 82W PCI-E, avg around 77W) which I bought in November of 2020, I beta tested the game and the card was fully stable during the play session (with 100% and 119% PL). No black screen, Fan 100% or any of that jazz. If your card behaves this way it is most likely a dud. What's interesting is if card is at 119% PL it will constantly draw 475+ W, and will transiently hit about 505W power , which is not the case for most other games (Avg 440W in non-RTX games). I've only seen that power draw pattern in MSI Kombustor v4 GL-msi01. 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 12:50:38 (permalink)
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I have the FTW3 Rev 0.1 (Red lipped card, that occationally hit 82W PCI-E, avg around 77W) which I bought in November of 2020, I beta tested the game and the card was fully stable during the play session (with 100% and 119% PL). No black screen, Fan 100% or any of that jazz. If your card behaves this way it is most likely a dud. What's interesting is if card is at 119% PL it will constantly draw 475+ W, and will transiently hit about 505W power , which is not the case for most other games (Avg 440W in non-RTX games). I've only seen that power draw pattern in MSI Kombustor v4 GL-msi01. 




That's important. What kind of clock and vcore do you usually see with max power?
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 13:03:15 (permalink)
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I have the FTW3 Rev 0.1 (Red lipped card, that occationally hit 82W PCI-E, avg around 77W) which I bought in November of 2020, I beta tested the game and the card was fully stable during the play session (with 100% and 119% PL). No black screen, Fan 100% or any of that jazz. If your card behaves this way it is most likely a dud. What's interesting is if card is at 119% PL it will constantly draw 475+ W, and will transiently hit about 505W power , which is not the case for most other games (Avg 440W in non-RTX games). I've only seen that power draw pattern in MSI Kombustor v4 GL-msi01. 




That's important. What kind of clock and vcore do you usually see with max power?




1830-1875MHz @ 0.937-0.981mV, in-game 99% usage.
Menu fps is locked at 63 fps, but card will stay at 1950 MHz @ 1.075mV, Draw 420-440W (119%PL) at 4k and ~75-80% GPU Usage. 
That's 4k Very High.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 13:13:28 (permalink)
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1830-1875MHz @ 0.937-0.981mV, in-game 99% usage.
 




Just to be clear, you're pulling 500w on a XOC bios at the above frequency / vcore? 
 
I agree that is like a Furmark load.  Is it sustained?
 
If someone has a .950V undervolt applied with max PL and limited cooling, that could be a problem for their temps / vram temps.
 
Reddit/Optimum Tech clowns:  https://www.reddit.com/r/...undervolt_profile_for/
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 13:49:08 (permalink)
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1830-1875MHz @ 0.937-0.981mV, in-game 99% usage.
 

 
Just to be clear, you're pulling 500w on a XOC bios at the above frequency / vcore?
 
I agree that is like a Furmark load. Is it sustained?
 
If someone has a .950V undervolt applied with max PL and limited cooling, that could be a problem for their temps / vram temps.



Yes. That's using the XOC bios, running everything at 0 offset. So basically stock card with 119% PL. Card will remain steady at the clocks above. 
Other workloads that have similar pattern from my testing are MSI Kombustor v4 GL-msi01 (very similar load pattern) and second is Quake II RTX, but Quake draws like 20W less, never seen it come close to 500W, but maxes around 480W.
Furmark though, seems to throttle the card between 1400-1500MHz, which isn't the case for NW.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 18:07:59 (permalink)
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1830-1875MHz @ 0.937-0.981mV, in-game 99% usage.
 

 
Just to be clear, you're pulling 500w on a XOC bios at the above frequency / vcore?
 
I agree that is like a Furmark load. Is it sustained?
 
If someone has a .950V undervolt applied with max PL and limited cooling, that could be a problem for their temps / vram temps.



Yes. That's using the XOC bios, running everything at 0 offset. So basically stock card with 119% PL. Card will remain steady at the clocks above. 
Other workloads that have similar pattern from my testing are MSI Kombustor v4 GL-msi01 (very similar load pattern) and second is Quake II RTX, but Quake draws like 20W less, never seen it come close to 500W, but maxes around 480W.
Furmark though, seems to throttle the card between 1400-1500MHz, which isn't the case for NW.




Pretty crazy man, thanks for the detailed feedback.  What kind of core and vram junction temps were you seeing at the time and do you feel you have a good cooling setup?
 
All these people over on Reddit going ham on the undervolt because they have poor vented cases and can't handle the 420w of the card, nor are they monitoring vram junction temp, or maybe not even using any OSD, then using a quiet/locked fan speed.  Not touching power limit.  The undervolt might work for typical games, where the load is intermittently low and the card can drop down in temps/power on a regular basis, but what happens when they get into a very high sustained load scenario where the card can go to full power at .95V vcore or less?  Could be a failure vector.
 
Here they are pontificating about a .950V-.975V undervolt, in the New World forum of all places.........hummm
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/newworldgame/comments/oraddn/the_gpu_bricking_situation_shows_us_the_value_of/
 
Granted .950V on a 3080 is much different than on a 3090, higher power +20% at least.
 
Here's a report of 80C+ core temps on 3080 with a .850V undervolt and no frame cap.  3080 FTW3 is 380w stock.
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/...um=web2x&context=3
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 19:33:14 (permalink)
Here is an early report of a Gigabyte 3090 black screening immediately on the startup of the game, when there was an uncapped framerate in the menu.
 
https://forums.newworld.com/t/issues-with-evga-rtx-3090-ftw3-ultra/112757/39
 
Gigabyte cards have the worst VRAM thermal pads, GDDR6X junction temp will run like 20C hotter than an equivalent FTW3 at the same load and it is possible to peg 110C almost instantly on their cards.  It is conceivable that the game did that and crashed/protected the card.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 20:35:02 (permalink)
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I am also using my main rig for WFA purposes which is why I didn't even think about chancing it when OCP kicked in. It happened once, and that was enough for me to uninstall. I knew that whatever their "fix" was, was clearly not an actual fix.
 
Not worth the risk to my daily 8-5, not over a $40 pre-order beta game. Not over ANY game tbh.  Thankfully I just recently bough this asus gaming laptop with good specs (Ryzen + 3060) so it can game reasonably well. Just not ideal to be gaming on a laptop.
 
 




But its not the game. In other words yes you can avoid New World and your card will continue to work. But its a ticking time bomb. Whose to say the next game released wont also have the same issue and kill your card? Do you just wait on every game before you play to see if it kills these cards and then if it does you never play it? Thats not a functional product. Check out my link in the post below yours




Exactly, I already had one card fry on me putting on a water block. 
The FTW hardware is faulty and I would rather know sooner than later. 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 20:43:50 (permalink)
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https://www.igorslab.de/en/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3090-and-not-only-new-world-when-the-graphics-card-goes-amok-because-of-design-failures/
 
As per igorslab seems it is a faulty fan controller, I hope tjis can be fixed with a firmware update. Any meaningful update from evga so far?


Nah this is a wack theory.



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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 21:03:48 (permalink)
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Here is an early report of a Gigabyte 3090 black screening immediately on the startup of the game, when there was an uncapped framerate in the menu.
 
https://forums.newworld.com/t/issues-with-evga-rtx-3090-ftw3-ultra/112757/39
 
Gigabyte cards have the worst VRAM thermal pads, GDDR6X junction temp will run like 20C hotter than an equivalent FTW3 at the same load and it is possible to peg 110C almost instantly on their cards.  It is conceivable that the game did that and crashed/protected the card.




It's worth noting that the Gigabyte card also has fuses.
Seems like all the cards that have reported failures all seem to have fuses (eVGA except Kingpin, Gigabyte and MSI).
Other AIB cards have crashed but no magic smoke.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 21:13:49 (permalink)
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https://www.igorslab.de/en/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3090-and-not-only-new-world-when-the-graphics-card-goes-amok-because-of-design-failures/

As per igorslab seems it is a faulty fan controller, I hope tjis can be fixed with a firmware update. Any meaningful update from evga so far?


Nah this is a wack theory.



Why?


because it's only an observation of some phenomenon with no real conclusion or insight into HOW this phenomenon could possibly cause the issues with dead GPUs.
 
the whole article is "AHA! look at this big RPM number! Smoking gun!" and no real details. if it's a problem then explain how this could possibly kill a GPU.
 
It can't. it's nonsensical. as another user posted, in order to attempt to drive (if that's the implication here) a fan at higher than max RPM, would require more than 12V. and with no step UP voltage converters on the board, where would such voltage even come from?
 
looks like this specific card (the unit in question, not the whole line) has some problem with the fan control, but it's not dead, and wasn't killed by the game even though it clearly exhibits this strangeness, so obviously not the root cause. and this issue with fan control isn't as widespread as he claims. I've never seen it mentioned on these forums though he claims there's a mountain of posts about it.
 
IMO his card has some problem with the fan controller that's spitting out faulty RPM readings. and that's totally separate from what's happening with the New World game.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 21:29:59 (permalink)
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Here is an early report of a Gigabyte 3090 black screening immediately on the startup of the game, when there was an uncapped framerate in the menu.
 
https://forums.newworld.com/t/issues-with-evga-rtx-3090-ftw3-ultra/112757/39
 
Gigabyte cards have the worst VRAM thermal pads, GDDR6X junction temp will run like 20C hotter than an equivalent FTW3 at the same load and it is possible to peg 110C almost instantly on their cards.  It is conceivable that the game did that and crashed/protected the card.




It's worth noting that the Gigabyte card also has fuses.
Seems like all the cards that have reported failures all seem to have fuses (eVGA except Kingpin, Gigabyte and MSI).
Other AIB cards have crashed but no magic smoke.




The reported Gigabyte card didn't fail, it just went into protect.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 22:20:15 (permalink)
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yes..paying extra for a rgb card is about as dumb as it gets imho



For those who have a short memory, the 3090 FTW3 Ultras were practically the only ones available at launch.  I'm sure RGB was seen as a bonus for some, but not part of the final decision into buying a 3090.
 


 
Id like to clarify, this is not my quote, this is from a response to one of my posts made by python, careful when editing quotes to make sure the right person is quoted.
 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 22:20:23 (permalink)
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https://www.igorslab.de/en/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3090-and-not-only-new-world-when-the-graphics-card-goes-amok-because-of-design-failures/

As per igorslab seems it is a faulty fan controller, I hope tjis can be fixed with a firmware update. Any meaningful update from evga so far?


Nah this is a wack theory.



Why?


because it's only an observation of some phenomenon with no real conclusion or insight into HOW this phenomenon could possibly cause the issues with dead GPUs.
 
the whole article is "AHA! look at this big RPM number! Smoking gun!" and no real details. if it's a problem then explain how this could possibly kill a GPU.
 
It can't. it's nonsensical. as another user posted, in order to attempt to drive (if that's the implication here) a fan at higher than max RPM, would require more than 12V. and with no step UP voltage converters on the board, where would such voltage even come from?
 
looks like this specific card (the unit in question, not the whole line) has some problem with the fan control, but it's not dead, and wasn't killed by the game even though it clearly exhibits this strangeness, so obviously not the root cause. and this issue with fan control isn't as widespread as he claims. I've never seen it mentioned on these forums though he claims there's a mountain of posts about it.
 
IMO his card has some problem with the fan controller that's spitting out faulty RPM readings. and that's totally separate from what's happening with the New World game.


Agreed completely.
 
In this physical world, it is impossible for a fan to spin up to greater than 100% duty cycle.  Anything that indicates otherwise via firmware or software is just an abstraction and an erroneous reading for what is otherwise physically impossible.  That being the case, considering that the power spike of ramping up the fans from 0% to 100% instantaneously is somewhere in the region of a couple dozen watts (worst case), it is extremely unlikely that such a bug is what is causing the fuses to blow.  A couple dozen watts is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
 
For this theory to be true, the article would have to demonstrate how a software glitch causes the fan controller to melt down, short out, and blow fuses.  Anything else is absurd.
 
I am of the opinion that this whole series of cards have demonstrated many times that there is a power balancing issue.  That being the case, the greater implication is that there must be a monitoring and power management design oversight.  I think Buildzoid's theories/oinions on the subject make a lot of sense.
post edited by ty_ger07 - 2021/07/27 22:33:28

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/27 23:30:26 (permalink)
Have a KPHC here, O believe no report on any KPE, or FTW3 HC reported so far, did Jacob announced anything around the problem so far and affected cards?

Hope they will make it right for those affected... And no-one should not have to pay for shipping on RMA on this if it's a design flaw.

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