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2022/01/20 14:46:42 (permalink)
I wish Evga would start a queue for DDR5 to go with the z690 boards. The scalper pest has a firm grip on supplies.
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/20 14:53:03 (permalink)
    I wish eVGA would make memory. That being said, I was able to secure DDR5 5600Mhz (non-rgb) ram from corsair directly. It's available right now too, not sure if it would go with your planned build or not. Ships out of Taiwan directly.
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/20 17:53:08 (permalink)
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    I wish eVGA would make memory. That being said, I was able to secure DDR5 5600Mhz (non-rgb) ram from corsair directly. It's available right now too, not sure if it would go with your planned build or not. Ships out of Taiwan directly.


     Which ones did you get?
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/20 18:01:09 (permalink)
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    I wish Evga would start a queue for DDR5 to go with the z690 boards. The scalper pest has a firm grip on supplies.



    That was several weeks ago.....lots available now...I get notify messages several times throughout the day everyday for the past 2 weeks.............scalpers on flea bag a couple of days ago were down to retail prices as theyre trying to unload.....
     I have had daily notifies of availability from Corsair, MemoryC and Newegg
     
     

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/20 18:01:41 (permalink)
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    Thank you I was looking at the trident Z5 and nothing was available. Which ones did you get?



    Ended up going with the Corsair Vengeance 5600Mhz C36 2x16GB kit x2 which might end up being a blessing in disguise. Low profile ram, no rgb (meaning no software to control it - first evga board so not sure if they're able to control the coloring on ram sticks with their software or not). Probably will end up selling the ram down the road when memory and better timings become available (if ever lol).
     
    Only concern now is the whole 4 dimms populated situation where I might have to tweak the ram overclock instead of using the default xmp profile.
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/20 18:04:51 (permalink)
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    Thank you I was looking at the trident Z5 and nothing was available. Which ones did you get?



    Ended up going with the Corsair Vengeance 5600Mhz C36 2x16GB kit x2 which might end up being a blessing in disguise. Low profile ram, no rgb (meaning no software to control it - first evga board so not sure if they're able to control the coloring on ram sticks with their software or not). Probably will end up selling the ram down the road when memory and better timings become available (if ever lol).
     
    Only concern now is the whole 4 dimms populated situation where I might have to tweak the ram overclock instead of using the default xmp profile.




    4 DIMM Slots n 64G has required getting clock speeds well below XMP....SPD if your lucky, perhaps Classy will handle all slots populate but I doubt it will be any better than Apex / Extreme......
    Better off to wait until 2*32G are available if you must have 64G RAM....
     
    Dominatar w Samsung kits (5600 c 36) or Dominator with Hynix (6200 c 36 / 6400 c38) have been the best kits for Z690 so far.....GSkill has been hit n miss....
    So far iuts looking like Hynix Memory being the best....followed by Samsung (not all).....for example some Samsung on GSkill not so grand....but Samsung on Dominator 5600 kit excellent.....Micron on Dominator (pre 5600 kits) not great.
    iCue wouldnt recognize my Dominator kit unless I tweaked a few settings in BIOS...granted Im on an Apex Board.
     
    If anyone can get there mitts on Dominator 5600 C36 (easily OC's to 6000 c36), 6200 c 36 or 6400 c38 (both the latter are Hynix), I would recomend those.
    post edited by rjbarker - 2022/01/20 18:11:01

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/20 23:22:21 (permalink)
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    4 DIMM Slots n 64G has required getting clock speeds well below XMP....SPD if your lucky, perhaps Classy will handle all slots populate but I doubt it will be any better than Apex / Extreme......
    Better off to wait until 2*32G are available if you must have 64G RAM....
     
    Dominatar w Samsung kits (5600 c 36) or Dominator with Hynix (6200 c 36 / 6400 c38) have been the best kits for Z690 so far.....GSkill has been hit n miss....
    So far iuts looking like Hynix Memory being the best....followed by Samsung (not all).....for example some Samsung on GSkill not so grand....but Samsung on Dominator 5600 kit excellent.....Micron on Dominator (pre 5600 kits) not great.
    iCue wouldnt recognize my Dominator kit unless I tweaked a few settings in BIOS...granted Im on an Apex Board.
     
    If anyone can get there mitts on Dominator 5600 C36 (easily OC's to 6000 c36), 6200 c 36 or 6400 c38 (both the latter are Hynix), I would recomend those.



    Yeah, I'm hopeful but have a "if it works, it works" attitude towards it. Worst case, I'll keep a 2*16GB kit and return the second one and wait for a 2*32GB kit.
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/20 23:33:21 (permalink)
    Took me weeks to find DDR5 and the modules are sitting now in storage waiting for a new build. Supplies of DDR5 in Europe are getting better but the prices aren't even close to MSRP. 

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/21 04:39:10 (permalink)
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    Thank you I was looking at the trident Z5 and nothing was available. Which ones did you get?



    Ended up going with the Corsair Vengeance 5600Mhz C36 2x16GB kit x2 which might end up being a blessing in disguise. Low profile ram, no rgb (meaning no software to control it - first evga board so not sure if they're able to control the coloring on ram sticks with their software or not). Probably will end up selling the ram down the road when memory and better timings become available (if ever lol).
     
    Only concern now is the whole 4 dimms populated situation where I might have to tweak the ram overclock instead of using the default xmp profile.


    I got the same to get going. Looks like there isn't much difference in the moment in the 4800-6400 range in app tests anyway. 
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/22 11:58:13 (permalink)
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    I got the same to get going. Looks like there isn't much difference in the moment in the 4800-6400 range in app tests anyway. 



    I'm up and running on the Corsair Vengeance 5600Mhz @ CL36. Just two dimms for now. Works great. Only drawback was my usb drive didn't work so I had to source the drivers on my own since they're not on the site yet (lol). 
     
    Edit: Started overclocking, got to 5.1Ghz on the i9-12900k CPU (with OC Robot). The Corsair Vengence 5600Mhz kit runs at 6000Mhz without issue so far. Running benchmarks to validate stability.
    post edited by N3TK1LLA - 2022/01/22 14:58:05
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/22 12:34:27 (permalink)
    DDR5 was hard to get from launch until early January. Now it seems to be easier to find at Corsair or Newegg. Prices have risen though. Modules I got late December have gone up $60. DDR5 4800 is the budget choice now. Lets hope we soon see prices trending down as the chip shortage gets caught up. 


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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/23 04:56:15 (permalink)
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    Thank you I was looking at the trident Z5 and nothing was available. Which ones did you get?



    Ended up going with the Corsair Vengeance 5600Mhz C36 2x16GB kit x2 which might end up being a blessing in disguise. Low profile ram, no rgb (meaning no software to control it - first evga board so not sure if they're able to control the coloring on ram sticks with their software or not). Probably will end up selling the ram down the road when memory and better timings become available (if ever lol).
     
    Only concern now is the whole 4 dimms populated situation where I might have to tweak the ram overclock instead of using the default xmp profile.


    I got the same to get going. Looks like there isn't much difference in the moment in the 4800-6400 range in app tests anyway. 



    I have been running benchmarks with DDR5-6000MHz CL36 vs DDR5-4800MHz CL30.


    DDR5-4800MHz CL30 @ 1.10V does vary well for daily usage, will overclock if you want to run higher MHz profiles
     
    DDR5 memory performance scaling with Alder Lake Core i9-12900K: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling/
     

     
    PCMARK10 @ 4800MHz CL30: http://www.3dmark.com/pcm10b/1363247
     
    Save your money, buy 4800MHz kit you will be fine for daily usage.


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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/23 06:47:06 (permalink)
    DDR5 memory is in stock at Newegg right now for example. 

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/23 16:06:41 (permalink)
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    I have been running benchmarks with DDR5-6000MHz CL36 vs DDR5-4800MHz CL30.
     
    DDR5-4800MHz CL30 @ 1.10V does vary well for daily usage, will overclock if you want to run higher MHz profiles
     
    DDR5 memory performance scaling with Alder Lake Core i9-12900K: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling/
     

     
    PCMARK10 @ 4800MHz CL30: http://www.3dmark.com/pcm10b/1363247
     
    Save your money, buy 4800MHz kit you will be fine for daily usage.




    Thanks for this! It was very helpful. Decided to only go with 32GB worth of ram for now. Will be looking to replace the ram in the future when timings get tighter. In the meantime, should be fun exploring what kind of overclocking I can achieve with the classy.
     
    Here is what I was able to get for my PCMark10 score so far: https://www.3dmark.com/pcm10/71155966 - pretty much in line with what you're getting so that makes me happy with my tinkering so far. Still lots to do!
     
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/23 19:09:13 (permalink)
    It's why I went with a MSI MPG Z690 Edge DDR4 board to go with my i9 12900KF. Even none scalper prices of DDR5's first gen are criminal, then the larger capacity with faster speeds are coming out later. But yeah the scalper prices are horrible adding insult to injury.

     
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/23 21:57:57 (permalink)
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    Thank you I was looking at the trident Z5 and nothing was available. Which ones did you get?



    Ended up going with the Corsair Vengeance 5600Mhz C36 2x16GB kit x2 which might end up being a blessing in disguise. Low profile ram, no rgb (meaning no software to control it - first evga board so not sure if they're able to control the coloring on ram sticks with their software or not). Probably will end up selling the ram down the road when memory and better timings become available (if ever lol).
     
    Only concern now is the whole 4 dimms populated situation where I might have to tweak the ram overclock instead of using the default xmp profile.


    I got the same to get going. Looks like there isn't much difference in the moment in the 4800-6400 range in app tests anyway. 



    I have been running benchmarks with DDR5-6000MHz CL36 vs DDR5-4800MHz CL30.


    DDR5-4800MHz CL30 @ 1.10V does vary well for daily usage, will overclock if you want to run higher MHz profiles
     
    DDR5 memory performance scaling with Alder Lake Core i9-12900K: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling/
     

     
    PCMARK10 @ 4800MHz CL30: http://www.3dmark.com/pcm10b/1363247
     
    Save your money, buy 4800MHz kit you will be fine for daily usage.




    Good stuff as usual Braegnok...awesome.
     

     
    You guys sparked my curiosity running PC Mark...not an exciting Benchmark ;)
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    post edited by rjbarker - 2022/01/23 22:00:50

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/23 22:02:00 (permalink)
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    It's why I went with a MSI MPG Z690 Edge DDR4 board to go with my i9 12900KF. Even none scalper prices of DDR5's first gen are criminal, then the larger capacity with faster speeds are coming out later. But yeah the scalper prices are horrible adding insult to injury.




    Last time I looked a week or so ago scalpers prices were pretty much retail as there is plenty of DDR5 around now....

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/24 17:04:57 (permalink)
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    It's why I went with a MSI MPG Z690 Edge DDR4 board to go with my i9 12900KF. Even none scalper prices of DDR5's first gen are criminal, then the larger capacity with faster speeds are coming out later. But yeah the scalper prices are horrible adding insult to injury.




    Last time I looked a week or so ago scalpers prices were pretty much retail as there is plenty of DDR5 around now....


    Depends on what you want, and with the full blown DDR5 around the corner 128-512gb sticks, running well over 6000mhz, the prices of DDR5 right now even the 32gb 4x8 kits is still pretty criminal scalper or retail.

     
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/24 18:11:55 (permalink)
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    It's why I went with a MSI MPG Z690 Edge DDR4 board to go with my i9 12900KF. Even none scalper prices of DDR5's first gen are criminal, then the larger capacity with faster speeds are coming out later. But yeah the scalper prices are horrible adding insult to injury.




    Last time I looked a week or so ago scalpers prices were pretty much retail as there is plenty of DDR5 around now....


    Depends on what you want, and with the full blown DDR5 around the corner 128-512gb sticks, running well over 6000mhz, the prices of DDR5 right now even the 32gb 4x8 kits is still pretty criminal scalper or retail.




    Well to put it on perspective, I had paid $635 CDN for a 32G (2*16G) kit of DDR4 GSkill Royal 4000 for my other 9900K build at the same time I put the parts together for this Z690 build.....the Dominator DDR5 32G (2*16G) 6000 / C36 kit was $615 CDN.....so I dont see the big problem at all w DDR5 (if you want 64G or 128G, then yeah, you will have to wait).
    Some guys are mixing 2 x 32G kits, but of course they have to settle on SPD speeds vs XMP.....I would think the majority still only require 32G anyhow........

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 03:39:11 (permalink)
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    It's why I went with a MSI MPG Z690 Edge DDR4 board to go with my i9 12900KF. Even none scalper prices of DDR5's first gen are criminal, then the larger capacity with faster speeds are coming out later. But yeah the scalper prices are horrible adding insult to injury.




    Last time I looked a week or so ago scalpers prices were pretty much retail as there is plenty of DDR5 around now....


    Depends on what you want, and with the full blown DDR5 around the corner 128-512gb sticks, running well over 6000mhz, the prices of DDR5 right now even the 32gb 4x8 kits is still pretty criminal scalper or retail.




    cool! ["...full blown DDR5 around the corner...running well over 6000mhz"]. idk ty
     
    wat is the max speed the z690 classified can take advantage of? ty

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 04:57:36 (permalink)
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    Thank you I was looking at the trident Z5 and nothing was available. Which ones did you get?



    Ended up going with the Corsair Vengeance 5600Mhz C36 2x16GB kit x2 which might end up being a blessing in disguise. Low profile ram, no rgb (meaning no software to control it - first evga board so not sure if they're able to control the coloring on ram sticks with their software or not). Probably will end up selling the ram down the road when memory and better timings become available (if ever lol).
     
    Only concern now is the whole 4 dimms populated situation where I might have to tweak the ram overclock instead of using the default xmp profile.




    4 DIMM Slots n 64G has required getting clock speeds well below XMP....SPD if your lucky, perhaps Classy will handle all slots populate but I doubt it will be any better than Apex / Extreme......
    Better off to wait until 2*32G are available if you must have 64G RAM....
     
    iCue wouldnt recognize my Dominator kit unless I tweaked a few settings in BIOS...granted Im on an Apex Board.
     
    If anyone can get there mitts on Dominator 5600 C36 (easily OC's to 6000 c36), 6200 c 36 or 6400 c38 (both the latter are Hynix), I would recomend those.




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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 07:44:11 (permalink)
    I know it's early but  has anyone tried 2x32? Also I wish EVGA would publish a list of tested DDR5.
     
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 08:59:58 (permalink)
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    *snip*
    DDR5 memory performance scaling with Alder Lake Core i9-12900K: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling/
    *snip*

     
    Good review. I skimmed past the 4000+ benchmark scores they did and went straight to the conclusion which really sums it all up well. I recommend people take a look.
     
    Here's a direct link to the conclusion: (link)
    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling/8.html
     
    I also note that Corsair have been dropping the prices a little of DDR5 Dominator, which is great news.
     
     
    post edited by Nereus - 2022/01/25 09:01:53

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 09:02:50 (permalink)
    Dunno what you mean, OP. I'm seeing DDR5 RAM in stock at every single UK online retailer right now. And scalpers are selling low on ebay because they can't get rid of their stock

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 09:17:56 (permalink)
    It's far easier to ramp up supply of DDR5 memory than it is to ramp up video card production. 

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 16:24:17 (permalink)
     
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 18:37:22 (permalink)
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    Available right now on Corsair.com 2x16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6200MHz C36 (link)
     
     





    Awesome, thanks for the link.
     
    Have been waiting for Corsair to release some Extreme OC PMIC 6200MHz kits.
     
    I just ordered one kit with free standard shipping $521.94,.. Booked. 
     
     


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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 19:17:52 (permalink)
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    Available right now on Corsair.com 2x16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6200MHz C36 (link)
     
     


    It figures, I just ordered the 5600 kit a few days ago.
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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 20:05:17 (permalink)
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    Available right now on Corsair.com 2x16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6200MHz C36 (link)

    Awesome, thanks for the link.
     
    Have been waiting for Corsair to release some Extreme OC PMIC 6200MHz kits.
     
    I just ordered one kit with free standard shipping $521.94,.. Booked. 

       
     
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    It figures, I just ordered the 5600 kit a few days ago.

    Order the 6200 and return the 5600 if possible (but test them first).
     
     
     

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    Re: DDR5 2022/01/25 20:38:18 (permalink)
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    Available right now on Corsair.com 2x16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6200MHz C36 (link)

    Awesome, thanks for the link.
     
    Have been waiting for Corsair to release some Extreme OC PMIC 6200MHz kits.
     
    I just ordered one kit with free standard shipping $521.94,.. Booked. 

     
     
    DEJ915
    It figures, I just ordered the 5600 kit a few days ago.

    Order the 6200 and return the 5600 if possible (but test them first).
     
     
     




    Yeah I see the Corsair 6200 / C36 is available on Corsair Canada site....but have my 5600 kit running at 6000.....hhhmmm...wonder if this 6200 kit could OC to 6600 as easily as the 5600 to 6000.....
     
    EDIT: @Braegnok....still available on Corsair Canada site..I also have it "booked" ;) Isnt this Dominator 6200 C36 Kit Hynix ?
     
    @Nereus thanks also for that link!!!!! Seems when stuff pops up available on the Corsair US site its also available on Corsair Canada Site ;)
    post edited by rjbarker - 2022/01/25 20:51:23

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