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2018/12/29 19:14:08 (permalink)
Just so I can say I tried everything before sending this card off for RMA and hopefully a refund, could someone answer my questions if you have experienced any of the problems herein, and maybe offer solutions to them, and if not, consolation that you have also experienced them and are now living with said problems all the same in blissful agony.
 
1) The fans on auto DO NOT kick on at 60°C but whenever they feel like it and sometimes only one fan instead of all three. I was told that on auto they only come on at 60°C? 
2) While testing with Unigine Valley Benchmark then everything is as it should be according to what I've read in reviews, which is, the temperature doesn't go above 62°C on what is supposedly full load, and everything is scoring in benchmarks as it should. However, as soon as I go to play a game in real life, I firstly have to alter the fan profile becasue 'auto' makes it sound as if the PC is taking off, and then strangely at full load in Witcher 3 I get different temperatures (72-76°C to be exact) when on full load. Can someone explain why I get a different temperature playing the Witcher to when bench-marking Valley? Surely full load is full load? And I thought the idea of synthetic benchmarks was to provide a way of stressing the card to its maximum to compare how it performs in reality?
3) I have coil whine if there's any load on the card. Will this go away or is it a "feature" of stupidly expensive graphics cards?
4) Whenever the fans keep a constant percentage, say 30-50%, there's this extremely annoying insect-like noise emanating from them. Is anyone experiencing this or is it just me and is there any way to stop it becasue I'm not even near my PC at the minute and I would have to wear headphones to hopefully drown out the noise.
5) Precision X1 keeps crashing when I try to select a different tab on the fan section of the program. Is anyone else having this problem and why is it happening considering this thing cost me £1400!
6) Why on Earth does Fallout 4 not have an option for ultrawide monitors or an option to change the resolution in-game? (but I digress ).
 
Please, please tell me it's not just me completely and utterly disappointed with this device?? I cannot live with it while it's behaving in this way, and for the money I paid for it I wanted it to be super cool and whisper quiet and instead I've got the most annoying cricket sounding, coil whiny, super hot, lump of ugly looking smokey plastic I've ever had the misfortune of owning. 

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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2018/12/30 14:25:07 (permalink)
    1. Without precision installed the fans should come on around 60c. 
    2. Different apps can stress the gpu differently causing the video card to run hotter.
    3. Yes, coil whine can lessen overtime.
    4. See if doing this fixes the noise.
    5. Are you running the latest version of px1?
     
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2018/12/30 17:12:48 (permalink)
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    1. Without precision installed the fans should come on around 60c. 
    2. Different apps can stress the gpu differently causing the video card to run hotter.
    3. Yes, coil whine can lessen overtime.
    4. See if doing this fixes the noise.
    5. Are you running the latest version of px1?
     



    1) Okay I'll have a go without Precision becasue the fans constantly starting and stopping is way worse than the card being slightly hot and being silent. I have noticed that having used the card for about two weeks now the idle temperature just seems to be getting hotter by the day. Without the Precision fans on auto the card was hitting 60 with the glass side panel off. Any idea if there's anything wrong in your opinion?
    2) Okay, that's good know becasue I've literally not read or seen this information anywhere. I've always assumed 100% load meant just that.
    3) It's noticeable but only when stressing the card which I suppose is to be expected; however, if it starts to bother me I may have to send it back. This is the second card that I have personally owned that has pretty noticeable coil whine. Is this actually a symptom of more powerful hardware becasue I never experienced with my GT9600
    4) I'll give this a go at the weekend and let you know if it helps. At the minute, with fans at 30%, it sounds like somebody straining a noise through their vocal cords, or like an annoying cricket sound and it's incredibly intrusive. 
    5) I have 0.03.11 Beta installed which I think is the latest. It works sometimes but crashes at others.
     
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2018/12/30 19:23:37 (permalink)
    1. Not that I know of. Try running the render test inside gpu-z to make the card hotter, and see if the fans kick on without precision installed/running. You can run gpu-z twice, and monitor temps on the other.
     
    3. You could say that. =)
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2018/12/30 22:03:05 (permalink)
    2080 Ti FTW3 fans are very noisy under 4K heavy load, but I don't have coil whine.

     
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2018/12/31 16:34:20 (permalink)
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    2080 Ti FTW3 fans are very noisy under 4K heavy load, but I don't have coil whine.




    Well one less problem is certainly better but it's still not great for something that costs double what my first car did . . .  Seriously, when did this lack of quality control become standard? Was the card you had prior to the 2080 Ti as noisy and are you okay with it?

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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2018/12/31 18:33:49 (permalink)
    Make sure you have the latest Precision version. An older one tried to make my 2080 Ti FTW3 go with just one fan. I easily reached 80c because two fans weren't spinning.
     
    As for noise, the FTW3 Ultra fan noise is really good relative to the RPM. For fun I plugged a 140mm Corsair ML140 into the fan header of the GPU and let it automatically match RPM with the GPU fans, and it was much much louder on a per RPM basis. It also tried to run it at 1,800+ RPM when its max is supposed to be 1,600, so be careful not to let the GPU fan header run your fan above its rated RPM.
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2018/12/31 20:34:21 (permalink)
    I send back ALL cards for coil whine. If I can hear it at all, under reasonable circumstances (like under 1,000 FPS), it goes back. I am not going to pay 1,000 bucks for a card with coil whine that will annoy me. I would send it back if I were you, 1,000 dollars for coil whine? NOPE!
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/01 18:51:56 (permalink)
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    I send back ALL cards for coil whine. If I can hear it at all, under reasonable circumstances (like under 1,000 FPS), it goes back. I am not going to pay 1,000 bucks for a card with coil whine that will annoy me. I would send it back if I were you, 1,000 dollars for coil whine? NOPE!




    Well this is exactly how I feel about this issue. I've paid approximately £1400 for this card and while the whine does get "better" with GSync and VSync on in the global Nvidia settings, and by limiting the number of frames, it still doesn't seem right to have such an expensive piece of equipment operating with such a distracting characteristic. The only reason for buying this card is for gaming, and if I can hear an alternating high pitched noise that pierces through the sound the game makes with headphones on, it's simply not doing the job I bought it for well enough. Then there's the hideous sound at idle if the fans start up and stay at 30-50%, and the widely differing heat output that at 3440x1440 sounds a bit like my PC is trying to take off, then you have a recipe for complete disappointment. I'm so distracted by all of these problems that I don't even want to play games on my PC anymore, and that's not hyperbole, I just end up obsessing over the noise and heat the card's putting out that I can't relax and escape like I normally can. 
     
    I've contacted technical support with all of my problems and the solutions I've tried, kindly suggested by people like Sajin on this forum, so I'll see what they say. If you won't stand for it then neither will I. This shouldn't be draining me like it has – for this price I wanted it to slot it in and forget about it .

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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/01 22:11:57 (permalink)
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    I send back ALL cards for coil whine. If I can hear it at all, under reasonable circumstances (like under 1,000 FPS), it goes back. I am not going to pay 1,000 bucks for a card with coil whine that will annoy me. I would send it back if I were you, 1,000 dollars for coil whine? NOPE!




    Well this is exactly how I feel about this issue. I've paid approximately £1400 for this card and while the whine does get "better" with GSync and VSync on in the global Nvidia settings, and by limiting the number of frames, it still doesn't seem right to have such an expensive piece of equipment operating with such a distracting characteristic. The only reason for buying this card is for gaming, and if I can hear an alternating high pitched noise that pierces through the sound the game makes with headphones on, it's simply not doing the job I bought it for well enough. Then there's the hideous sound at idle if the fans start up and stay at 30-50%, and the widely differing heat output that at 3440x1440 sounds a bit like my PC is trying to take off, then you have a recipe for complete disappointment. I'm so distracted by all of these problems that I don't even want to play games on my PC anymore, and that's not hyperbole, I just end up obsessing over the noise and heat the card's putting out that I can't relax and escape like I normally can. 
     
    I've contacted technical support with all of my problems and the solutions I've tried, kindly suggested by people like Sajin on this forum, so I'll see what they say. If you won't stand for it then neither will I. This shouldn't be draining me like it has – for this price I wanted it to slot it in and forget about it .


    If you can hear it while playing games with headphones on... Yeah, send that junk back. They sold you garbage for over a thousand bucks... I'd be pissed. 
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/02 02:27:19 (permalink)
    Fallout 4 doesnt support uw monitors no matter what gpu u have.
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/02 07:50:49 (permalink)
    If a card is exhibiting coil whine, does that mean the card is more prone to failure? Does it impact the longevity of the card at all? I am curious if coil whine means inferior quality card, or if it's simply a byproduct of some coils chemical makeup. 

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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/02 10:47:23 (permalink)
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    If a card is exhibiting coil whine, does that mean the card is more prone to failure? Does it impact the longevity of the card at all? I am curious if coil whine means inferior quality card, or if it's simply a byproduct of some coils chemical makeup. 


    https://www.evga.com/supp...mmain.aspx?faqid=59535
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/02 11:01:15 (permalink)
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    SprayingMango
    If a card is exhibiting coil whine, does that mean the card is more prone to failure? Does it impact the longevity of the card at all? I am curious if coil whine means inferior quality card, or if it's simply a byproduct of some coils chemical makeup. 


    https://www.evga.com/supp...mmain.aspx?faqid=59535




    Awesome link, thank you! 

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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/02 11:35:23 (permalink)
    No problem.
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/02 13:02:25 (permalink)
    Is it normal to get coil whine when idle on windows and then zero whine when playing games, no matter the FPS?
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/02 13:43:55 (permalink)
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    Is it normal to get coil whine when idle on windows and then zero whine when playing games, no matter the FPS?


    Coil whine usually happens when the card is loaded, so I'd say it's not normal.
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/01/02 16:58:31 (permalink)
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    Is it normal to get coil whine when idle on windows and then zero whine when playing games, no matter the FPS?




    I only hear it when the GPU is being utilised heavily; however, coil whine is not limited to GPUs, so it could be your PSU that's making a noise, or a system or GPU fan. I think I saw somewhere to use rolled up paper to funnel the sound so you can isolate exactly where it's coming from so you don't end up replacing components unnecessarily .

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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/07/04 02:33:53 (permalink)
    Hey James, im late to the party but i share some of the issues you've described.
     
    I had to create a default custom curve to avoid that supid on/off rev up from the fans. I don't get it.. even my old cheaper GTX 970 SSC was quieter.
    The problem is, leaving the fans running at 15-20% constantly i start getting that annoying sound you described at point 4. This is so annoying.. i have a dead silent PC and im programming so everything is super silent and almost idling then i get this stupid fan noises from the graphics card.
     
    Im thinking of RMA or to apply some lubricant oil on the bearings but to be honest i will quit buying evga produts all together.
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/07/04 21:14:01 (permalink)
    It's alive! This one is crawling out of ground as we speak! 7 months later! 
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/07/05 00:59:55 (permalink)
    Hey Nuno,
     
    I have paid maybe £4/5K for my entire rig and monitor and I've had niggles with all of it, to varying degrees of annoyance. For instance, the Alienware monitor that I bought cost £1100, and while it's okay for the most part, it still has a small amount of backlight bleed in the bottom left corner, and to me, for that price, that item has not passed Quality Control – and this was the second monitor that I had sent out because the first just didn't turn on, it was dead on arrival .
     
    Similarly, the Rampage VI Extreme was Asus' flagship X299 mobo, which cost me around £600, and I had to replace it three times because of bent CPU pins; one came DOA; and the other problem I can't even remember; and then add to that when I do get one that works (sort of), I get a 'Detect Memory' error that still happens occasionally, even though I don't use XMP and have entered the memory settings manually. However, what I do remember is having every one of them sold to me as 'brand new', however, when they arrived all or some of the protective cellophane had been removed removed, there were greasy fingerprints all over the 'Indium-plated ROG armor', and a patina of factory dust over the whole board, and apparently this was caused by a massive last minute change to the VRM cooling blocks that needed to be replaced because an independant YouTube overclocker discovered he could fry bacon on them, and Asus are more worried about the aesthetics and "branding" of their tech than they are the functionality: we need Orwell more than we need Wilde, but if we are to have good looks at least have an equal balance between form and function, and not one in favour of how pretty something looks! And believe me, I understand how culpable I am in that department too as I bought that board because I liked the look of it (what a damn fool ).
     
    As for the RTX 2080 Ti, I think we're all a bit silly for buying into that really, but I'd waited long enough for the stars to align so I could buy all the parts I wanted, and that card came along at that time unfortunately. TBH, I very rarely use it for playing games on now anyway as I just prefer the convenience and comfort of sitting on my sofa and playing Dark Souls Remastered on my 55" 4K OLED TV with a PS4 Pro, without having to mess around with bad controller inputs, unofficial patches, texture packs, spacecraft takeoff noise levels, a spine shaped like a toilet S-bend, and carpal tunnel syndrome from all the jerking off I do on forums like this . I did find out that a lot of the noise was coming from the PSU: those things are silent just browsing and doing light tasks, but after two EVGA ones, and finally the Asus Thor, I've concluded that those things are just going to sound like a harrier jet taking off while under a heavy load (if anyone knows a solution for this I'd be grateful, but I've kind of given up on the endless tinkering now so actually save your time friend, have a biscuit instead). Regardless, the FTW still isn't what I'd call quiet even when it's just at stock and not overclocked. Plus, I live in England, meaning it's cold all year round, so the temperature shouldn't be an issue but it certainly doesn't stay at 60°C while playing Witcher 3 maxed out on 3440x1440 34" monitor: it was kicking out about 75°C the last time I tried playing it, and when the fans are on auto and keep spinning up there's that clicking noise, which I believe is fixed by inputting fan profiles – but, again, when I've paid £1400 for a f#$&!"g card, why am I having to fart about with fan profiles so that it doesn't click or coil whine, oh the WHINING . Again, this was helped somewhat by enabling G-sync and V-sync in Nvidia global settings, but not in game—
     
    Honestly, tech YouTubers and some of the people on the tech forums will roll their square eyes at anyone who claims that PC building and gaming isn't easy as poo from a duck's anus, but it's the endless tinkering and having to find the information in the first place that drive me mad. I have a 2:1 in English Literature and A Levels in Law, History, Psychology, and English, and although it's not exactly difficult to build and maintain a PC . . . I'd call it more a f#$&!"g ache of the testes or vulva. The amount of time I've spent trawling through forums and scrubbing through ponderous tech videos trying to find solutions to and the reasons behind why I have RAM POST stalls using XMP (a thing touted on all the promotional literature and box art as being as easy as clicking a single button).

    So, my advice about the noise you're getting is to first check if it's not actually coming from your PSU, that's likely remaining passive until it reaches a certain load/temp, and then the fan kicks in, as the curves on the three PSUs I've mentioned were, and are, atrocious. Also, case fans may need to be configured correctly. I find AI Suite to be a complete pile of sticky, tangy canine ordure, so I've calibrated them in the UEFI instead. Also, check your pump speed and the fans if you're using an AIO CLC, because the pumps can sometimes have a bum impeller, or just bad stock fan profiles.
     
    You know, if I could send it all back and get what I'd started with, which was an Alienware 17 R4, I would, because even though it was heavy, I could move it from room to room and take it travelling, and the noise everyone moans about with gaming laptops was near identical to my desktop when on full load, and the performance bump that the RTX card gave me is just not noticeable unless you have a more inferior device adjacent to my PC, but when does that happen? After a while it becomes an obsession for getting the highest frames , or just so you can max out all the sliders in the 'advanced graphics settings' tab. Playing PS4 Pro on my TV I'm just as blown away by how God of War looks, and it plays fine even though it's not running at 20,000 FPS. Sorry, just another digressive tirade but honestly, I was fooling myself into thinking that being on the bleeding edge was going to fill some void, that it would be the greatest tech that corporations profess it is on all of the boxes, and from the mouths of 'screen to screen salesmen' (like JayzTwoCents, LinusTechFilth, and that horrible ginger shill who dyes his hair black and thinks nobody notices [randomfrankp], maybe that's why he's random).

    Also, I can't rant relentlessly like this without being fair to EVGA, and giving high praise to their venerable and polite customer support staff, it has thus far been excellent, and compared to some other tech distributors and manufacturers they've been like manna from heaven; they would have – and still will presumably – RMA my card but asked me to try a few things first, and told me that if I still wasn't satisfied, they'd replace the card for me anyway, but by this point I've just become so tired and disillusioned by the whole process, I now just use the PC for work and browsing etc., and use the console for games. That being said, I may have to break out the fresh coffee and industrial grade ear PPE when Cyberpunk 2077 comes out, because that is looking to be the game I've been waiting for since playing Liberation on Amiga CD32 and wishing I could actually play it: and I'll just have to try and get this machine to do what it was built to do, insanity be damned!!
     
    Last grievance, I promise. You wouldn't believe how long it took me to get Aura working, and I had to send the G.Skill Trident Z RGB back and swap for Corsair RAM (which turned out to be way better anyway), because they would just mess up all the time, and seem to conflict with the motherboard even though it was supposed to control them. At least it's looking how I want it to now:
     

     
    Over and out . . .
     

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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/07/05 03:43:35 (permalink)
    James Haskew  I had to send the G.Skill Trident Z RGB back and swap for Corsair RAM (which turned out to be way better anyway), because they would just mess up all the time, and seem to conflict with the motherboard even though it was supposed to control them. At least it's looking how I want it to now: 
    I know that feeling very well, the (Trident Z) was a nightmare and my motherboard doesn't have (Asus Aura)... I whined up selling the (Trident Z) and went with (Corsair Vengeance Pro) and that resolved my problem.
     

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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/07/06 09:04:11 (permalink)
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    James Haskew  I had to send the G.Skill Trident Z RGB back and swap for Corsair RAM (which turned out to be way better anyway), because they would just mess up all the time, and seem to conflict with the motherboard even though it was supposed to control them. At least it's looking how I want it to now: 
    I know that feeling very well, the (Trident Z) was a nightmare and my motherboard doesn't have (Asus Aura)... I whined up selling the (Trident Z) and went with (Corsair Vengeance Pro) and that resolved my problem.
     




    Yeah, I'm not sure what the problem with the G.Skill RAM is, because it's definitely listed as compatible with my motherboard, but it would just wig out all the time: sometimes only certain areas of the sticks would come on; sometimes the motherboard would light up in different places I'd not assigned; and until I actually changed to Corsair sticks and started using iCue, Aura just would not work properly on my mobo, and that was the main problem I suppose. It works fine now and doesn't appear to conflict with the Corsair RAM, the LL120s, or the iCue software. It just seems so bizarre because Asus built the program in conjunction with G.Skill so why was there so many problems? 

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    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB @ 3200 MHz
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    Samsung 950 PRO NVMe M.2 238GB
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    Re: Coil whine, noisy insect fans, different full load temperatures, overheating 2080 Ti F 2019/07/08 12:12:12 (permalink)
    James Haskew
    Hey Nuno,
     
    I have paid maybe £4/5K for my entire rig and monitor and I've had niggles with all of it, to varying degrees of annoyance. For instance, the Alienware monitor that I bought cost £1100, and while it's okay for the most part, it still has a small amount of backlight bleed in the bottom left corner, and to me, for that price, that item has not passed Quality Control – and this was the second monitor that I had sent out because the first just didn't turn on, it was dead on arrival .
     
    Similarly, the Rampage VI Extreme was Asus' flagship X299 mobo, which cost me around £600, and I had to replace it three times because of bent CPU pins; one came DOA; and the other problem I can't even remember; and then add to that when I do get one that works (sort of), I get a 'Detect Memory' error that still happens occasionally, even though I don't use XMP and have entered the memory settings manually. However, what I do remember is having every one of them sold to me as 'brand new', however, when they arrived all or some of the protective cellophane had been removed removed, there were greasy fingerprints all over the 'Indium-plated ROG armor', and a patina of factory dust over the whole board, and apparently this was caused by a massive last minute change to the VRM cooling blocks that needed to be replaced because an independant YouTube overclocker discovered he could fry bacon on them, and Asus are more worried about the aesthetics and "branding" of their tech than they are the functionality: we need Orwell more than we need Wilde, but if we are to have good looks at least have an equal balance between form and function, and not one in favour of how pretty something looks! And believe me, I understand how culpable I am in that department too as I bought that board because I liked the look of it (what a damn fool ).
     
    As for the RTX 2080 Ti, I think we're all a bit silly for buying into that really, but I'd waited long enough for the stars to align so I could buy all the parts I wanted, and that card came along at that time unfortunately. TBH, I very rarely use it for playing games on now anyway as I just prefer the convenience and comfort of sitting on my sofa and playing Dark Souls Remastered on my 55" 4K OLED TV with a PS4 Pro, without having to mess around with bad controller inputs, unofficial patches, texture packs, spacecraft takeoff noise levels, a spine shaped like a toilet S-bend, and carpal tunnel syndrome from all the jerking off I do on forums like this . I did find out that a lot of the noise was coming from the PSU: those things are silent just browsing and doing light tasks, but after two EVGA ones, and finally the Asus Thor, I've concluded that those things are just going to sound like a harrier jet taking off while under a heavy load (if anyone knows a solution for this I'd be grateful, but I've kind of given up on the endless tinkering now so actually save your time friend, have a biscuit instead). Regardless, the FTW still isn't what I'd call quiet even when it's just at stock and not overclocked. Plus, I live in England, meaning it's cold all year round, so the temperature shouldn't be an issue but it certainly doesn't stay at 60°C while playing Witcher 3 maxed out on 3440x1440 34" monitor: it was kicking out about 75°C the last time I tried playing it, and when the fans are on auto and keep spinning up there's that clicking noise, which I believe is fixed by inputting fan profiles – but, again, when I've paid £1400 for a f#$&!"g card, why am I having to fart about with fan profiles so that it doesn't click or coil whine, oh the WHINING . Again, this was helped somewhat by enabling G-sync and V-sync in Nvidia global settings, but not in game—
     
    Honestly, tech YouTubers and some of the people on the tech forums will roll their square eyes at anyone who claims that PC building and gaming isn't easy as poo from a duck's anus, but it's the endless tinkering and having to find the information in the first place that drive me mad. I have a 2:1 in English Literature and A Levels in Law, History, Psychology, and English, and although it's not exactly difficult to build and maintain a PC . . . I'd call it more a f#$&!"g ache of the testes or vulva. The amount of time I've spent trawling through forums and scrubbing through ponderous tech videos trying to find solutions to and the reasons behind why I have RAM POST stalls using XMP (a thing touted on all the promotional literature and box art as being as easy as clicking a single button).

    So, my advice about the noise you're getting is to first check if it's not actually coming from your PSU, that's likely remaining passive until it reaches a certain load/temp, and then the fan kicks in, as the curves on the three PSUs I've mentioned were, and are, atrocious. Also, case fans may need to be configured correctly. I find AI Suite to be a complete pile of sticky, tangy canine ordure, so I've calibrated them in the UEFI instead. Also, check your pump speed and the fans if you're using an AIO CLC, because the pumps can sometimes have a bum impeller, or just bad stock fan profiles.
     
    You know, if I could send it all back and get what I'd started with, which was an Alienware 17 R4, I would, because even though it was heavy, I could move it from room to room and take it travelling, and the noise everyone moans about with gaming laptops was near identical to my desktop when on full load, and the performance bump that the RTX card gave me is just not noticeable unless you have a more inferior device adjacent to my PC, but when does that happen? After a while it becomes an obsession for getting the highest frames , or just so you can max out all the sliders in the 'advanced graphics settings' tab. Playing PS4 Pro on my TV I'm just as blown away by how God of War looks, and it plays fine even though it's not running at 20,000 FPS. Sorry, just another digressive tirade but honestly, I was fooling myself into thinking that being on the bleeding edge was going to fill some void, that it would be the greatest tech that corporations profess it is on all of the boxes, and from the mouths of 'screen to screen salesmen' (like JayzTwoCents, LinusTechFilth, and that horrible ginger shill who dyes his hair black and thinks nobody notices [randomfrankp], maybe that's why he's random).

    Also, I can't rant relentlessly like this without being fair to EVGA, and giving high praise to their venerable and polite customer support staff, it has thus far been excellent, and compared to some other tech distributors and manufacturers they've been like manna from heaven; they would have – and still will presumably – RMA my card but asked me to try a few things first, and told me that if I still wasn't satisfied, they'd replace the card for me anyway, but by this point I've just become so tired and disillusioned by the whole process, I now just use the PC for work and browsing etc., and use the console for games. That being said, I may have to break out the fresh coffee and industrial grade ear PPE when Cyberpunk 2077 comes out, because that is looking to be the game I've been waiting for since playing Liberation on Amiga CD32 and wishing I could actually play it: and I'll just have to try and get this machine to do what it was built to do, insanity be damned!!
     
    Last grievance, I promise. You wouldn't believe how long it took me to get Aura working, and I had to send the G.Skill Trident Z RGB back and swap for Corsair RAM (which turned out to be way better anyway), because they would just mess up all the time, and seem to conflict with the motherboard even though it was supposed to control them. At least it's looking how I want it to now:
     

     
    Over and out . . .
     


    4 words for you. Hybrid cooled video card.
    It's practically silent with a noctua fan when configured to intake through the radiator.
    Custom loop cooler would work better probably, but it's an arm and a leg for all the components.
    I guess I've gotten lucky. I've only ever had to return 2 items due to defective parts in my 16 odd years of building computers; one was the radiator pump in my old EVGA 1080 video card, and the other was a motherboard.
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