Hi all,
I'm queued in EVGA's system to get notified of buying a 3080.
I'm curious if it's better to save for a 4000 series GPU in 2022, or just buy a 3080 now if the chance comes (If that even happens at all given the shortages...).
I'm currently using a 2070 Super Founders Edition to game on 3840x1600 at 120hz.

I have already considered this.  If I receive a card prior to the 40 series release, then that's great.  We do not know when the 40 series will release and further, there is no guarantee that the industrial chip manufacturing shortage will have abated completely when it is released.
 
You have nothing to loose by staying in the queue.
 
Just my thoughts on this.

They won’t release the 4000 series until they stabilize this madness I mean LHR model has not ship.. 
 
 
 4000 series it’s ready  probably mid 2022 

However if ETH 2.0 actually happens in early 2022 then there *might* be scads of 3080's going for about $500 or 3070's for $350.  So your $900 card now is worth $500 then, worst case scenario, is it worth $400 for you to game on a cutting edge card for the next 6-8 months?

Depends if you sell the old GPU or not. If you factor in selling the 2070 Super at today's inflated prices then the value proposition is about the same either way ethereum goes.

tyranus7

ProjectSINQ
Hi all,
I'm queued in EVGA's system to get notified of buying a 3080.
I'm curious if it's better to save for a 4000 series GPU in 2022, or just buy a 3080 now if the chance comes (If that even happens at all given the shortages...).
I'm currently using a 2070 Super Founders Edition to game on 3840x1600 at 120hz.

Why people buy these ultra high resolution monitors with ultra high refresh rate if they can't use it at it's full potential. Not even a 3090 can run games at 4K 120Hz, not on newer games at least...

Yeah I was just trying out my free copy of Control on Epic, like 40 FPS on a 3080 Ti FTW3 on stock settings, everything maxed out no DLSS, 4K 120hz VRR.  LOL.  What a dumb game btw, if you want telekinetic hijinks, check out Saints Row 4. Card does rip on older DX11 games though even if power limited and won't much clock much above 2,040mhz with +150 core.

Thanks for the replies.
 
I'm considering buying a 3080 because I can pitch in another 100 from the 3070 ti.

kevinc313

tyranus7

ProjectSINQ
Hi all,
I'm queued in EVGA's system to get notified of buying a 3080.
I'm curious if it's better to save for a 4000 series GPU in 2022, or just buy a 3080 now if the chance comes (If that even happens at all given the shortages...).
I'm currently using a 2070 Super Founders Edition to game on 3840x1600 at 120hz.

Why people buy these ultra high resolution monitors with ultra high refresh rate if they can't use it at it's full potential. Not even a 3090 can run games at 4K 120Hz, not on newer games at least...

Yeah I was just trying out my free copy of Control on Epic, like 40 FPS on a 3080 Ti FTW3 on stock settings, everything maxed out no DLSS, 4K 120hz VRR.  LOL.  What a dumb game btw, if you want telekinetic hijinks, check out Saints Row 4. Card does rip on older DX11 games though even if power limited and won't much clock much above 2,040mhz with +150 core.

 
Kevinc313, it's because I have that budget.
Originally back in 2019, I used to game on 3440x1440 at 144hz, which was enough for the 2070 Super but then later in 2021, I upgraded to the Alienware AW3821DW, which has Dell's 3 year warranty. It's a monitor I'm planning to use for a long time for gaming, video editing, and photoshop while upgrading my PC.
I'm pretty sure 3840x1600 120 fps by 2024 will be possible, especially with DLSS being a thing for upcoming newer games or current games such as Minecraft Java Edition, DOOM Eternal, and Metro Exodus. The high resolution also helps for non-gaming purposes too.
So yes, it will be used to its fullest potential. 3840x1600 is actually more forgiving than 4K, which lot of people don't realize because it's a niche resolution that gamers don't normally game at.
 
Tyranus7, there are many different games that run well at 3840x1600 and it's actually more forgiving than 4K gaming than what a lot of people may think. It doesn't have to hit 120 fps all the time.
The games I play that runs well around/above 90-120 FPS at 3840x1600 are Minecraft Java Edition, DOOM Eternal, Metro Exodus, Left 4 Dead 2, Resident Evil 2 Remake, Resident Evil 7, Resident Evil 8, State of Decay, Phasmophobia, Dying Light, Rainbow Six Siege, Battlefield One, Call of Duty Modern Warfare (2019), Heroes of the Storm, and more.
With DLSS coming to future games, 4K 120 FPS won't even be a dream anymore and that spells good news for 3840x1600.
I also have a 4K 32" 60hz IPS Monitor (ViewSonic VP3268-4K) as my secondary display next to my 38" Monitor (Alienware AW3821DW). I don't game on the 4K Monitor because it's obviously too much for the 2070 Super (I tried, that's how I knew).
As for why I have a secondary 4K monitor, one monitor isn't enough for me to multi-task on non-gaming usage, and it doesn't actually hit my gaming performance on my 3640x1600 monitor that much too.

rjohnson11
GPUs will be in short supply for the rest of this year and probably the 1st half of 2022. Just wait if you can.

 
If there is an announcement for the 4000 series by the end of the year if I haven't bought a 3080 already, I'll save for a 4000 series instead.
 
If I'm somehow lucky on the queues for Newegg Shuffle/EVGA before 2022, I'm buying a 3080 (at MSRP that is).

Given the price you could sell the 2070 for I think it's best to try to upgrade. The 3080 is a great card and I really don't think the 4000 series which I am guessing will be probably 2023 will not really be as big of a gain as the 3080 was for Ray Tracing. I could be wrong but I don't see the 4000 series offering as big a gain as we saw from the 3080 and if it does then I think after we saw the prices of the 3080Ti we could see NVIDIA charge more. Hopefully that makes sense but I think we will see a 4090 and a 4080 in the future at about what the 3080Ti is and I am not sure anyone with a 3080 will feel the need to really jump on the 4000 upgrade bandwagon just like a lot of 1080Ti owners didn't upgrade to a 2080Ti.

ProjectSINQ

kevinc313

tyranus7

ProjectSINQ
Hi all,
I'm queued in EVGA's system to get notified of buying a 3080.
I'm curious if it's better to save for a 4000 series GPU in 2022, or just buy a 3080 now if the chance comes (If that even happens at all given the shortages...).
I'm currently using a 2070 Super Founders Edition to game on 3840x1600 at 120hz.

Why people buy these ultra high resolution monitors with ultra high refresh rate if they can't use it at it's full potential. Not even a 3090 can run games at 4K 120Hz, not on newer games at least...

Yeah I was just trying out my free copy of Control on Epic, like 40 FPS on a 3080 Ti FTW3 on stock settings, everything maxed out no DLSS, 4K 120hz VRR.  LOL.  What a dumb game btw, if you want telekinetic hijinks, check out Saints Row 4. Card does rip on older DX11 games though even if power limited and won't much clock much above 2,040mhz with +150 core.

 
Kevinc313, it's because I have that budget.
Originally back in 2019, I used to game on 3440x1440 at 144hz, which was enough for the 2070 Super but then later in 2021, I upgraded to the Alienware AW3821DW, which has Dell's 3 year warranty. It's a monitor I'm planning to use for a long time for gaming, video editing, and photoshop while upgrading my PC.
I'm pretty sure 3840x1600 120 fps by 2024 will be possible, especially with DLSS being a thing for upcoming newer games or current games such as Minecraft Java Edition, DOOM Eternal, and Metro Exodus. The high resolution also helps for non-gaming purposes too.
So yes, it will be used to its fullest potential. 3840x1600 is actually more forgiving than 4K, which lot of people don't realize because it's a niche resolution that gamers don't normally game at.
 
Tyranus7, there are many different games that run well at 3840x1600 and it's actually more forgiving than 4K gaming than what a lot of people may think. It doesn't have to hit 120 fps all the time.
The games I play that runs well around/above 90-120 FPS at 3840x1600 are Minecraft Java Edition, DOOM Eternal, Metro Exodus, Left 4 Dead 2, Resident Evil 2 Remake, Resident Evil 7, Resident Evil 8, State of Decay, Phasmophobia, Dying Light, Rainbow Six Siege, Battlefield One, Call of Duty Modern Warfare (2019), Heroes of the Storm, and more.
With DLSS coming to future games, 4K 120 FPS won't even be a dream anymore and that spells good news for 3840x1600.
I also have a 4K 32" 60hz IPS Monitor (ViewSonic VP3268-4K) as my secondary display next to my 38" Monitor (Alienware AW3821DW). I don't game on the 4K Monitor because it's obviously too much for the 2070 Super (I tried, that's how I knew).
As for why I have a secondary 4K monitor, one monitor isn't enough for me to multi-task on non-gaming usage, and it doesn't actually hit my gaming performance on my 3640x1600 monitor that much too.

To be honest I think DLSS is not here to stay, at least not for gaming purposes. 1) Nvidia has to do an extra effort to make developers to include DLSS because most games are just plain console ports and consoles don't have DLSS. 2) If rumors are correct 40-series is going to be 50-100% faster than 30-series which makes the cards powerful enough to run games at 4k 120Hz without upscaling techniques which sometimes look well and others not so well. So I wouldn't rely on DLSS to expand much more in the future. The games you're playing are not so demanding so you should be able to run those games at your monitor's native resolution and get 90+ fps with a 3080. My advice for you is to get the 3080 now (if you can) and get the 4080 when it release, which shouldn't be before the end of 2022. I always buy a card for the games I want to play now and not thinking so much in future games because there is no guarantee on how the card is going to perform on future games.
 
By the way, how you play games on a 38 inch screen??? Isn't it too big?? With such a big screen you can't sit too close to it, otherwise you have to move your head around to be able to see the corners of the screen. And if you sit far away from the screen the resolution becomes more irrelevant for gaming. Let's say if you sit 6 feet away from a 40 inch screen you wont see a difference between playing games at 1080p or 1440p. 27 inch I'd say is the limit size for a gaming monitor.

tyranus7
 
By the way, how you play games on a 38 inch screen??? Isn't it too big?? With such a big screen you can't sit too close to it, otherwise you have to move your head around to be able to see the corners of the screen. And if you sit far away from the screen the resolution becomes more irrelevant for gaming. Let's say if you sit 6 feet away from a 40 inch screen you wont see a difference between playing games at 1080p or 1440p. 27 inch I'd say is the limit size for a gaming monitor.

My primary display is currently a 65" LG Nano 90 (4K 120 hz VRR).  I used to run a 120" projector full time and have a 43" 4K at my home desk.

tyranus7
To be honest I think DLSS is not here to stay, at least not for gaming purposes. 1) Nvidia has to do an extra effort to make developers to include DLSS because most games are just plain console ports and consoles don't have DLSS. 2) If rumors are correct 40-series is going to be 50-100% faster than 30-series which makes the cards powerful enough to run games at 4k 120Hz without upscaling techniques which sometimes look well and others not so well. So I wouldn't rely on DLSS to expand much more in the future. The games you're playing are not so demanding so you should be able to run those games at your monitor's native resolution and get 90+ fps with a 3080. My advice for you is to get the 3080 now (if you can) and get the 4080 when it release, which shouldn't be before the end of 2022. I always buy a card for the games I want to play now and not thinking so much in future games because there is no guarantee on how the card is going to perform on future games.
 
By the way, how you play games on a 38 inch screen??? Isn't it too big?? With such a big screen you can't sit too close to it, otherwise you have to move your head around to be able to see the corners of the screen. And if you sit far away from the screen the resolution becomes more irrelevant for gaming. Let's say if you sit 6 feet away from a 40 inch screen you wont see a difference between playing games at 1080p or 1440p. 27 inch I'd say is the limit size for a gaming monitor.

Yeah, I think the 3080 is a winner.
 
I'm more hopeful for the development of DLSS whether it's for gaming or not, since it blew my mind on Doom Eternal from the recent update.
I'm already having 90+ fps with my 2070 Super for my games anyways, so I'm hopeful that the 3080 should give me 10-15 more FPS, DLSS/AMD FSR or not.
Because again, 3840x1600 isn't that demanding as many think it is.

As for me gaming on my 38" screen, I use glasses.
I can see very small or see very far, so I can actually notice the pixels on my screen, such as reading the small text in Windows like the current time on the bottom right of the screen.
I sit about 2-3 ft away from the screen. I also game with a controller too so I can sit even further if needed.
(Of course, I don't want to damage my eyes so I try to have as many dark mode/dark colors on my screen as much as possible, since white just burns.)
 
But does this make the 3840x1600 resolution irrelevant? NOPE! Not for me! xD
 
I used to game on a 25" 1080p 240hz and 27" 1440p 144hz in 2017 prior jumping to ultrawide in 2019, so I can actually tell the resolutions apart like day and night. (240fps is very hard to notice from 144hz because it's too butter smooth).
For example, if I lowered my in-game resolution, I can notice the blurred pixels and it bothers me. A lot.
My brother still owns a 24" 1080p 144hz monitor for his PC and I felt "Cramped" when trying it, as if I was having OCD lol.
 
The 38" isn't that much bigger than 34" ultrawide in-person. I thought I needed more space but that wasn't necessary.
However, 3840x1600 is more immersive than 3440x1440 for me.
I'm also using 2 desks for both of my monitors, the ViewSonic VP3268-4K & Alienware AW3821DW.
As time went on, 2560x1440 started to feel too small and one monitor was slowing me down, as if it was bottlenecking my brain/multi-tasking (I can't describe it properly).
 
I'm probably one of those PC users you don't see often, since my niche isn't for everyone.
 
Thanks for the reply though!

If you need a new card now, then get one (if you can). We dont know how long the queues will be when the next gen cards will be released. 

I think that most people upgrade their GPU every 2 generations, but that's not a general rule.
It all comes down to what you currently expect from e video card. If you your 2070 Super performs according to your gaming demands, why not keep it?
However, I am skeptic about the overall generational leap between 3000 and 4000 series. I predict the next line up will cost more at a lower performance leap as the previous gen.
I regret not upgrading to a 2070 when I had the chance, I believed it would be bottlenecked by my CPU and have a 970 in my case.
If I were in your place, I think I would upgrade to a 3080 for futureproof, unless money would play an important part. In that case I would stick to the 2070.
 
Good luck! 

tyranus7

ProjectSINQ
Hi all,
I'm queued in EVGA's system to get notified of buying a 3080.
I'm curious if it's better to save for a 4000 series GPU in 2022, or just buy a 3080 now if the chance comes (If that even happens at all given the shortages...).
I'm currently using a 2070 Super Founders Edition to game on 3840x1600 at 120hz.

Why people buy these ultra high resolution monitors with ultra high refresh rate if they can't use it at it's full potential. Not even a 3090 can run games at 4K 120Hz, not on newer games at least...

I do it every day with 3080. Not sure why people think you can't. You don't need 100+fps to have a beautiful gaming time.
 
4k 120hz ultra whatever on 48inch.