Ok good. Nothing wrong with a stock head set-up....but 300hp with a good cam and tune is about max you will ever see n/a. Usually 250-280hp at the wheels. Get your new motor mounts now. Also shift kit time!

Also....if it has the stock intake look for an Explorer intake from the junk yard.

Baltothewolf
300 at the wheels, about 325-335 at the crank. He said the power loss might be more due to the AOD, which is perfectly believable. Yes, a shift kit will be next performance wise, but first will come a plasti dip job and full interior restoration and A/C fix.

I also have this option for 1500. (No tune or anything though).
http://sandiego.craigslis...sd/pts/5087777667.html

Do it.

Baltothewolf

kaninja

Baltothewolf
300 at the wheels, about 325-335 at the crank. He said the power loss might be more due to the AOD, which is perfectly believable. Yes, a shift kit will be next performance wise, but first will come a plasti dip job and full interior restoration and A/C fix.

I also have this option for 1500. (No tune or anything though).
http://sandiego.craigslis...sd/pts/5087777667.html

Do it.

Which one O.o

The one with the Edelbrock Aluminum heads.

Here is what was done to the engine:

the engine is a 1992 block, so it has the factory forged pistons, the engine originally had 42,000 miles when pulled from the donor car, it was talking apart, the block was honed with a torque plate, the deck was minimum surfaced for straightness, new rings and bearings where installed, the crank was polished, the heads and stock efi intake was ported and the heads received a 5 angle valve job, also a new mellings oil pump was installed. All gaskets are felpro. I will install a custom hydraulic roller cam with the specs of 535 lift, 224 duration at .050 ground on a 112 lobe separation. Also I will match the cam with comp cams valve springs.

give it to me, i'll fix it. All the advice you need :D
 
Also, come do the lil bit of body work my car needs....*waits*

kaninja

Baltothewolf
Still could use some advice on this..

Well....you do want to supercharge later ...so aluminum heads will pay dividends down the road.

The 2k engine, the guy is specifically putting a cam in there that is designed for 5-10lbs of boost. I told him what my plans are so he knows exactly what to put in there. For me personally, I think I might do this 2k deal. It's exactly what I want. I don't have time to be messing with an engine right now, and this guy is willing to install it for me. That's about 8 hours of labor, which is 710$ @ 90$ an hour (labor rate here in Cali).

Yea I have time to think about it... I would love some input from Bill1024 but it appears he is MIA. He is the Mustang guy and knows what's up with our Foxes.

kaninja

Baltothewolf
Yea I have time to think about it... I would love some input from Bill1024 but it appears he is MIA. He is the Mustang guy and knows what's up with our Foxes.

Yes he does. So do I though. I have owned one and built 4.

Here is a car I built with my buddy. This was the shakedown weekend at Mission Raceway a couple years ago. Car has since been sold.

Oh I was unaware you know the Fox, I thought you were a porsche guy. Lol. I think I'll hold off and not take the risk.

What would you recommend if I wanted to spend under 2000 but make 300hp out the wheels?

Engine work only.

Just remember, my block has 195k miles on it. Would it be safe to reuse my bottom end? I was thinking all new bearings/rings/rehone the cylinder walls at the least on the bottom end.

Thanks Bill, that's kind of what I was looking for answer wise. I'm about to sell one of my cars, so I'll have close to 2500 in the bank. I already have 4.10's in the rear and I love them. The car got so much more peppy when I went from 2.73's to 4.10's.

I really don't care about looks, I just want to plasti dip and fix my head liner, but that's pretty cheap to do anyway.

My issue is, I don't want to spend more than 2,500 on engine work. I'll admit I'm obsessed with blowers, I'll get one someday, but that doesn't take from my 3,000 budget. Right now my goal is to spend ~2,000 and get 330-350 at the crank and 300 out the wheels. I figure that will be about 50% more power than I have now, and later when I want to go blower, I can make 400 with ease.

Is this guy I'm talking to full of hot air? Can he get 280-300 out the wheels with what I specified above? He said he will be putting 26# injectors along with a 255lph pump and supporting MAF.

Just read this article, good read. I didn't know a 347 was so easy to do. Easy being relative, of course.

http://www.mustangandford...-stroker-engine-build/

IMO a Boss block for the street is overkill. We built the 331cu.in with a Boss block but were running 25psi of boost and running mid 8's. With a gutted interior and a full spool out back it was not any sort of street car. With a stock block I would build a nice 331cu.in if ever intending to go forced induction or a 347 cu.in N/A motor. A 331 cu.in built right with good heads/cam/intake will get you 350-375hp at the rear wheels. In a 3,100 lb car with 4.10 gears and a shift kit that will be a lot of fun.

Baltothewolf
I already know what I want. I have always known, I have always has a base line plan. I changed it a couple times, but here is what I envisioned since the first time I layed eyes on my uncles Fox and longed for a Fox of my own.

My dream has, and always will be 400 horses out the wheels. I don't care if the camaro down the street is 700, or the 'newest and greatest' Mustang is 500HP. I want a 347 stroker engine with a vortech S-trim supercharger, and a 1-2-3 shift kit with a button for O/D. Something that cruises good at 1800-2400rpm, but gets up and goes when I stab the throttle.

However, my plans have changed since then. I would really, really like to keep my entire build at or under 6,000. A 331 with an S-trim supercharger putting 400 would be perfect. I'm not really a fan of all the modifications to the block that are required with the 347. I would do it, but eh. Not a fan.

A plan is good. Bill gives some good advice too, especially with the 351 block.

However I have always been a fan of the 331 over the 347 in a forced induction application....just personal preference.

331cu.in with good heads/intake/cam and an s-trim set for low boost with a good tune will NET you way more than 400hp.

Also, be on the look out for a sportsman block if you can find one. They were madeby Ford on a special casting with more material in the webbing and valley and can handle a lot more power than a stock 5.0 roller block can.

Baltothewolf
Tbh I have been considering pulling my engine and building that block. I got a place I can put the shell for now.

There you go!

bill1024
A 331 built right with the right cam and intake can net you 400whp. It's all in the combo.
Throw a blower on that and you will be in block splitting range.
Figure 400whp + a blower 8# will get you around 550 to 600whp or so.
I would not do that with a stock block.
 
When a motor is rebuilt the miles dose not matter all that much. It will be bored out new bearings, rods and pistons, rings and seals.
You can reuse the crank, you will split the block before you hurt the stock crank.
 
 
 

Then I don't need to go blower then. Maybe in 5-10 years I'll buy another Fox and go with a 347 and a blower haha.

So how about this.
331 Stroker.
255lph FP.
36# injectors(with MAF to support).
70mm TB.
AFR 165 heads(185?).
Edelbrok upper and lower intake. (Already have).
BBK equal length tube headers(Already have).
Custom camshaft.
Upgraded oil pump?