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So I recently bought a 1080ti FTW3 DT and decided to play with overclocking a bit. The most I managed to squeeze out of it was +120 Clock and +600 Memory. After running a few benchmarks, I saw that the max I can get the card to run at was 6106 Mhz Memory and 1999Mhz Clock and after stabilizing it drops down to 1987Mhz Clock speeds. I researched a bit and saw that people manage to push up to 2.1Ghz and this got me a bit worried that I ended up with a Bad Lottery card. What's your guys' input? TL;DR: Did I get a bad lottery card if the most I can get it to run at stably is 1987Mhz Clock and 6106Mhz Memory? Here are some pictures from MSI Afterburner: 
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 10:25:11
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Dont use msi afterburner. You cant control all 3 fans on the software. Try evga's precision xoc.
Crank all the fans to max and set the voltage to max and the power and temp. Hit apply and test.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 10:26:43
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Won't setting voltage to max ruin the GPU?
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 10:36:28
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Won't setting voltage to max ruin the GPU?
Nope. Impossible. Nothing on those settings will hurt the card. Nvidia limits the card voltage to 1.093v max. It will only use what it needs at a giving clock anyways. Setting max will only allow the card to use the max if needed. Keep the fan speed up for the extra heat though. Once the card gets to a certain temp it will start to lower the clocks to stay stable. Dont overclock at first.. do the above and see what it boosts to out of the gate. Temps low enough it will hold. Past 53c it will start to lower them. That's nvidia's boost 3.0 in action. 2100 or more is rare now adays.. be happy over 2000mhz 2050.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 10:41:36
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I like 3dmark firestrike for testing.. try +13 on the GPU clock per test. If its unstable it will usually just freeze up for a second and error and or knock you back to the desktop. No hard lockup or freeze.
Do just the GPU clock first and then when you figure out the max clock then add some memory. +500 or so to atart.
Best to report clocks and not +100 or whatever as that eont tell us anything as it means different per cards boost
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 10:43:20
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Looks Good to me
1) you bought a Factory OC card - any Extra is nice
2) You bought the DT version
3) Are you On the Slave (second) BIOS ? if not thats step 1
4) Keep it Colder than 50C for best performance
5) Nvidia Boost 3.0 will override any OC to balance temp & power draw
6) I never use more Voltage than needed - it just creates more Heat if its not needed for stability
7) Your PC Needs to be Rock solid on its OC first, before Max GPU OC is achievable
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 10:55:57
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2) so the performance I'm getting is lower than the none DT version?
3) I'm not sure what On the Slave BIOS is to be perfectly honest. I've just been OCing through XOC or Afterburner.
4) Sadly, can't do that with the hardware I've currently got
6) After using 100% voltage it seemed like my Clock fluctuated between 1976-1999Mhz much more often
7) It seems +110Mhz Clock is my safe zone and if I'm really pushing it I could do +120Mhz with rare crashes.
All in all, would you say it's middle of the road? Or have I not OCed properly yet to know?
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 11:20:57
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 11:30:33
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2) so the performance I'm getting is lower than the none DT version?
3) I'm not sure what On the Slave BIOS is to be perfectly honest. I've just been OCing through XOC or Afterburner.
4) Sadly, can't do that with the hardware I've currently got
6) After using 100% voltage it seemed like my Clock fluctuated between 1976-1999Mhz much more often
7) It seems +110Mhz Clock is my safe zone and if I'm really pushing it I could do +120Mhz with rare crashes.
All in all, would you say it's middle of the road? Or have I not OCed properly yet to know?
Your card has a switch - near where power plugs in. That is to change the BIOS on the card. Card ships with "stock" BIOS turned On ---> moving the switch (power OFF & unplug the PC first) to the second more aggressive BIOS settings FTW 3 is guaranteed to clock higher than the FTW 3 DT anything Near 2k OC is very nice - yes some cards can clock higher = Silicon Lottery
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 11:31:58
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You bought a DT card.. DT cards are called DT because they failed to hold the stock overclocked bios. Since you are getting to 1999mhz on a card that couldn’t even hold a stock overclocked bios that is much lower than 1999, I would say you are doing fine and have nothing to worry about.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 12:01:01
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You bought a DT card.. DT cards are called DT because they failed to hold the stock overclocked bios. Since you are getting to 1999mhz on a card that couldn’t even hold a stock overclocked bios that is much lower than 1999, I would say you are doing fine and have nothing to worry about.
That's a bit of a misnomer. DT cards are DT because they couldn't pass some part EVGA's rigorous testing. That said, they are often OCed just as high as non-DT cards are. Sometimes higher than average, sometimes lower.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 12:01:17
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Sajin
See if you can get more out of your card by following my guide...
After doing this, the Mhz seems to fluctuate a lot more and sometimes even drops to 1960Mhz. This may be because of my GPU Temps? It got up to 69C when I ran a benchmark the_Scarlet_one
You bought a DT card.. DT cards are called DT because they failed to hold the stock overclocked bios. Since you are getting to 1999mhz on a card that couldn’t even hold a stock overclocked bios that is much lower than 1999, I would say you are doing fine and have nothing to worry about.
So is a DT card just a worst FTW3 card or a worst card than most in general?
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 12:04:09
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Bambasamba
After doing this, the Mhz seems to fluctuate a lot more and sometimes even drops to 1960Mhz. This may be because of my GPU Temps? It got up to 69C when I ran a benchmark
Yep, higher temps will cause the core speed to reduce. You were most likely hitting your power limit too which will also cause the core speed to reduce.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 12:05:51
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Bambasamba
After doing this, the Mhz seems to fluctuate a lot more and sometimes even drops to 1960Mhz. This may be because of my GPU Temps? It got up to 69C when I ran a benchmark
Yep, higher temps will cause the core speed to reduce. You were most likely hitting your power limit too which will also cause the core speed to reduce.
So assuming I get a better cooler will I be able to OC it to higher Mhz or did my GPU reach its limit? (Sorry for all the questions guys, I'm just pretty new at this whole thing)
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 12:08:07
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Yes, getting the card cooler will definitely help you increase your clock speed. Flashing the vbios listed in op in this thread will also help you achieve a higher clock speed if you're already bumping into your power limit.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/08/31 12:16:40
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Nothing to panic over.. were prob talking 3fps in most games from where your at to 2100mhz.
Crank the fans earlier to keep the overall temps down. Create custom fan profiles that are aggressive as in 75-80% from 40c up. 30-50% lower.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/09/04 16:03:12
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Winter is coming. I suggest you wait till December/January and then stick your PC outside and see how it overclocks  But yes, as Sajin has pointed out, you have a DT and your card is performing perfectly fine. FTW3 cards are pushed to the max as it is, and squeezing anything more out of them takes extreme cooling and for them to be binned well, which your card is not, as it's a DT.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/09/04 16:14:36
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That's a bit of a misnomer. DT cards are DT because they couldn't pass some part EVGA's rigorous testing.
That said, they are often OCed just as high as non-DT cards are. Sometimes higher than average, sometimes lower.
That isn’t a misnomer at all. The DT cards failed the FTW3 testing. 2000mhz is just fine on a card that is sold as a base clock card because it couldn’t handle the bios it was intended to have. Whether they overclock better or worse means nothing. There are plenty of cards that can handle the bios and still can’t make it to 2000mhz. This card is performing just fine. This is a good middle ground, and much higher than some cards can ever reach. There are plenty of K|ngp|n cards that can’t reach 2100mhz... and they cost significantly more.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/09/04 18:19:58
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Excuse my honesty, evga gpus suck in 90% of times. EVERY reviewer get lower 19xx on stock boost on evga, while gets mid to high 19xx on say Asus or Zotac.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/09/08 12:22:58
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So are DTs in general considered some of the worst 1080Tis on the market or just worst in comparison with a FTW3?
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/09/08 12:33:28
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/09/08 12:55:06
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I got the comparison between the two FTW3 versions. What I'm asking is how does this card hold up when pitted against other 1080Tis. Low-end, mid-end, high-end? I just want to get a grasp of how much better or worse this card is than the average 1080Ti
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/09/08 13:21:03
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Bambasamba
I got the comparison between the two FTW3 versions. What I'm asking is how does this card hold up when pitted against other 1080Tis. Low-end, mid-end, high-end? I just want to get a grasp of how much better or worse this card is than the average 1080Ti
It's still a high end card.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2018/09/08 13:54:20
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I just bought one a few days ago (FTW3 1080ti) and the max I can get is 2012/6200 stable, clocks drop to 1987 above 62 degrees.
In order to maintain these clocks I had to mod the bios to hit the 127% TDP, then I had to go into Precision, bump the fans to 100% and turn on kboost (so utilisation isn’t a problem and it won’t lower my clocks under afterburner) then go into afterburner and set up a custom voltage curve because for some reason precision refuses to hit max voltage and then gpu z shows vrel as an issue when it’s lowering clocks.
After I have set up the voltage curve and made sure it’s running at max voltage and holding clocks I then have to shut afterburner and open precision so I can monitor temps.
So, in short, anything above 2000 on the core is good with pascal and it really is a lottery getting one that can do 2.1 from what I can tell.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2019/07/13 14:56:54
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I have a friend that wants to trade me my FE 1080ti for his FTW3 DT 1080ti. After reading this forum i am unsure of whether this would be a good move lol. He bought a liquid cooler but i guess it only works on FE style cards. Would i be downgrading? Upgrading?
My apologies for this being somewhat unrelated.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2019/07/13 17:45:20
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As far as the pcb goes you would be upgrading. You would also be upgrading your cooling.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2019/07/13 20:00:58
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I have a friend that wants to trade me my FE 1080ti for his FTW3 DT 1080ti. After reading this forum i am unsure of whether this would be a good move lol. He bought a liquid cooler but i guess it only works on FE style cards. Would i be downgrading? Upgrading?
My apologies for this being somewhat unrelated.
You need to start your own thread. Thanks.
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Re: Bad Lottery or Luck of the Draw?
2019/07/13 21:39:31
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I bought a 1080 Ti ftw DT it did not like to go over 1999 MHz. But other than that i have no complaints about it at all. Its not a benchmark topper but it is still a performer, as all 1080 ti are.
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